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@maxdog,

Since the moment you'd thought that it would take hours to go by ship from
Lampedusa to Algeciras I don't take you any serious at all.
(The EU doesn't have any helicopter, btw)

Have someone else to talk nonsense with.

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@Walter Hinteler,

So when a cruise liner is sinking what they do ? Or they are not people for them ?

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@maxdog,

To whom do you refer with "they" in your post?

The type of agency which carries out maritime search and rescue varies by country; it may variously be the coast guard, navy or voluntary organisations. When a distressed or missing vessel is located, these organisations deploy lifeboats to return them to land. In some cases, the agencies may carry out an air-sea rescue.

I don't know exactly how it works in other countries, but Search and Rescue in German waters is conducted by the German Maritime Search and Rescue Service with air support by the German Navy and the German Air Force. The German Coast Guard (Federal Police, Maritime Customs Service, various state s' water police units, ...) provide SAR services, too.

If a cruise-liner sinks, the first to help would be the ships close to it.
And since cruise ships use the normal sea routes, there will be quite a few nearby.

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@Walter Hinteler,

So , in the name of the EU no one is going to send a helicopter to bring them back safely , i think spain have an air rescue , the ship is with spanish flag , for these things i m saying that don t make sense .

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@maxdog,

maxdog wrote:

So , in the name of the EU no one is going to send a helicopter to bring them back safely , i think spain have an air rescue , the ship is with spanish flag , for these things i m saying that don t make sense .

Sea rescue is a national affair, nothing what the EU, NATO, or any other international has to do with.
And thus you're correct: no-one is going to do any sea rescue in the name of the EU.

Of course Spain has a sea (and air) rescue.
But that doesn't mean they only rescue Spanish ships nor that they do this worldwide.

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@Walter Hinteler,

ok , they don t rescue only spanish ships , so they do rescue spanish ships right ?

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@maxdog,

I'm not sure why you question that.
For a longer reply: see my above post about resue at sea.
In short: the Salvamento Marítimo helps any ship distress within their SAR area.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Since you are so interested: below the area where the Salvamento Marítimo operates

Source

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@Walter Hinteler,

So in case of an emergency they stick to the rules . I don t believe any , my only believe is that they want to give them to italy . Talking about letting illegal immigrants come in , but not in their own turf .

Btw they let them in and they found any state of emergency , quoting the news .

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@maxdog,

You are mixing a lot here, e.g. where did someone - besides my above posts, which are replies to your questions - write something about the Salvamento Marítimo and refugees, Italy and such??? (Spain doesn't border Italy, opposite to your thinking that it is just hours by ship away.)

Why don't you try to get educated about the subjects you post and, especially think, before you write?

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@Walter Hinteler,

Salvamento Marítimo i only heard it from you as far as i know . Where do you find the mix ? Well i believe there is something not clear because im making it easy for you to understand and it s like your im not sayin nothing at all.

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@maxdog,

You wrote about EU-helicopters and Spanish sea-air rescue

maxdog wrote:

So , in the name of the EU no one is going to send a helicopter to bring them back safely , i think spain have an air rescue

I've tried to explain how sea/sea-air rescue works - not just here in Europe but worldwide.

I'm really patient, and I understand people can't know everything.
But it's not only that you think, ships have the speed of aircrafts.

I rest my case.

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@Walter Hinteler,

It s ok . I accepted your correction about the speed of the vessel and the rescue system . All want to say is if the open arms is sinking something or someone is going for their rescue . Irrelevant what and who . You know what i mean now ?

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@Walter Hinteler,

Guess what .

Just in : The Spanish government said on Tuesday it would send a navy ship to the Italian island of Lampedusa to escort the Open Arms rescue ship back to Spain.

That s what i was trying to comunicate

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US nurse on migrant rescue ship reunited with Darfur boy she saved

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At the height of the Darfur war — the world's worst conflict in 2004 — a US nurse treated a baby with a leg injury. Fifteen years later, she was reunited with him on board a migrant rescue ship in the Mediterranean.

The Ocean Viking, which recently made headlines for being refused permission to dock at European ports for two weeks after rescuing four boatloads of migrants off the Libyan coast in August, is in the news again but this time with a feel-good story.

Among the 356 migrants on board the vessel, which is run jointly by Doctors Without Borders (MSF) and SOS Mediterranee, were two Sudanese refugees whom American nurse Mary Jo Frawley recognized from the past. One was a 17-year-old boy named Omar whose injuries she had tended to when he was a toddler growing up during the Darfur war.

"I remember this baby. His mother brought him. He was wounded in the right leg and needed medical attention when the attacks happened. Everybody had to run away to the mountains. They were difficult times," Frawley, who works for MSF, told the Agence-France Presse (AFP) news agency.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Exactly , what do you want to say with this story , what does it have to do with the subject ?

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@Walter Hinteler,

mean while another 170 entered illeglaly in europe with the excuse they were drowning but of course it s another wise play.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Following a complaint by "Sea Watch" captain Carola Rackete, the public prosecutor's office has started preliminary investigations against the former Italian Interior Minister Matteo Salvini. In her complaint, the maritime rescuer and refugee aide accused Salvini, who is still the head of the right-wing Lega, of serious defamatory behaviour and incitement to a crime.

Migranti, Salvini indagato per diffamazione della capitana Carola Rackete

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@Walter Hinteler,

The only person that is in crime in this story like her collagues is only herself , very funny to accuse salvini that he has done a crime .is she really thinking that everyone is stupid and we are going to think that she s the victim hahahahahah?

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@Walter Hinteler,

The Evangelical Church in Germany (the federation of the Lutheran, Reformed and United Protestant churches and denominations in Germany) will send a ship to the Mediterranean to rescue migrants attempting to make the crossing into Europe, the church council head said today.

"It's more than symbolism, it is about taking exemplary action. People will be rescued in the Mediterranean," said bishop Heinrich Bedford-Strohm, head of the Evangelical Church in Germany (EKD).

The church will not be responsible for operating the ship, but will establish a private organisation to handle the operational logistics.

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