OMG! CONDI (and BUSH & Now SCOTT) Still Thinks IRAQ = 9/11

Suddenly, we're casting doubt on the veracity of the report...

I've made my point.

Attacking the sanity of people who assert that both those who doubt and those who believe that the two worked together each have good reason for their views.

This Report leaves it wide open--except for those who denied there was any contact between the two. They are out of luck.

Suddenly, we're casting doubt on the veracity of the report...

I've made my point.

Attacking the sanity of people who assert that both those who doubt and those who believe that the two worked together each have good reason for their views.

This Report leaves it wide open--except for those who denied there was any contact between the two. They are out of luck.

Parados said--

Cite one place in the 911 report that specifically addresses an agreement between the two. You make a CONCLUSION that they agreed to something but that is NOT fact. It is CONCLUSION or ASSERTION.

Lash wrote:

From the 911 Commission Report--

Bin Ladin was also willing to explore possibilities for cooperation with Iraq, even though Iraq's dictator, Saddam Hussein, had never had an Islamist agenda-save for his opportunistic pose as a defender of the faithful against "Crusaders" during the Gulf War of 1991. Moreover, Bin Ladin had in fact been sponsoring anti-Saddam Islamists in Iraqi Kurdistan, and sought to attract them into his Islamic army.53

To protect his own ties with Iraq, Turabi reportedly brokered an agreement that Bin Ladin would stop supporting activities against Saddam. Bin Ladin apparently honored this pledge, at least for a time, although he continued to aid a group of Islamist extremists operating in part of Iraq (Kurdistan) outside of Baghdad's control. In the late 1990s, these extremist groups suffered major defeats by Kurdish forces. In 2001, with Bin Ladin's help they re-formed into an organization called Ansar al Islam. There are indications that by then the Iraqi regime tolerated and may even have helped Ansar al Islam against the common Kurdish enemy.54

With the Sudanese regime acting as intermediary, Bin Ladin himself met with a senior Iraqi intelligence officer in Khartoum in late 1994 or early 1995. Bin Ladin is said to have asked for space to establish training camps, as well as assistance in procuring weapons, but there is no evidence that Iraq responded to this request.55 As described below, the ensuing years saw additional efforts to establish connections.
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Bin Laden honored the pledge to Saddam.

It is a fact.

Which of my statements did I make up?

dlowan wrote:

Here is the nub - and it is just as I thought:

"Since they communicated three times through intermediaries--(what was that about again...?) and since they offered one another assistance that we know of-- and it can definitely not be proven that they did not work together--

Then acting like a bunch of hyenas when one submits their collusion IS possible is stupid."

Lash appears to think this stuff (which is pretty damn doubtful in and of itself) - plus her assertion that "It can definitely not be proven that they did not work together" is proof that they DID.

Your powers of deduction are horrible at best, or intentionally misleading--which you do have a penchant for...

Your sentence here--

"It can definitely not be proven that they did not work together" is proof that they DID.

Has no basis in fact--nor have I insinuated or believed any such thing. I have gone to the trouble already in pointing this out.

Can't you think up something new to help you avoid admitting that the facts I bolded from the 911 Commission Report are true?

Nor have we seen evidence indicating that Iraq cooperated with al Qaeda in developing or carrying out any attacks against the United States.

{Nor do they have evidence they did not cooperate...}

And, dlowan, you almost had it right.

Since they communicated three times through intermediaries--(what was that about again...?) and since they offered one another assistance that we know of-- and it can definitely not be proven that they did not work together--

Then acting like a bunch of hyenas when one submits their collusion IS possible is stupid.

Lash, on page 20, wrote:

And, dlowan, you almost had it right.

Since they communicated three times through intermediaries--(what was that about again...?) and since they offered one another assistance that we know of-- and it can definitely not be proven that they did not work together--

Then acting like a bunch of hyenas when one submits their collusion IS possible is stupid.

Hoist on your own petard.

. . . plus her assertion that "It can definitely not be proven that they did not work together" is proof that they DID.

is nothing but a wild grab. I certainly did not make any such statement, as you well know.

They actually do need a country to provide them haven to live and operate.

Or, a country that has such lax circumstances that they can do as they please without having their operation shut down.