Cycloptichorn wrote: You can deny it all you want, but Iraq HAS lead to a large rise in terrorism in the world.
You can claim it all you want, but your claiming it doesn't make it true! The co-existence of events does not by itself demonstrate that one or more of these events caused any of the others.
FACTS
Malignancy increased significantly prior to March 2003, and probably increased significantly after March 2003 when we invaded Iraq.
Evidence to support your claim must show that increase subsequent to our invasion of Iraq would not have occured if the US had not invaded Iraq. So far you have not provided such evidence. Instead you provide articles from the TOMNOM (i.e., The Oxy-Moron News Opinion Media, e.g., NYT, TBG, TLT, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN) who have repeatedly been shown to be unreliable, incompetent and/or fraudulent -- you decide.
MORE FACTS [emphasis in the following quote is added by ican]
the bipartisan, 9/11 Commission Report, in Chapter 2.5 wrote:
The Taliban seemed to open the doors to all who wanted to come to Afghanistan to train in the camps. The alliance with the Taliban provided al Qaeda a sanctuary in which to train and indoctrinate fighters and terrorists, import weapons, forge ties with other jihad groups and leaders, and plot and staff terrorist schemes. While Bin Ladin maintained his own al Qaeda guesthouses and camps for vetting and training recruits, he also provided support to and benefited from the broad infrastructure of such facilities in Afghanistan made available to the global network of Islamist movements. U.S. intelligence estimates put the total number of fighters who underwent instruction in Bin Ladin-supported camps in Afghanistan from 1996 through 9/11 at 10,000 to 20,000.78
In addition to training fighters and special operators, this larger network of guesthouses and camps provided a mechanism by which al Qaeda could screen and vet candidates for induction into its own organization. Thousands flowed through the camps, but no more than a few hundred seem to have become al Qaeda members. From the time of its founding, al Qaeda had employed training and indoctrination to identify "worthy" candidates.79
Al Qaeda continued meanwhile to collaborate closely with the many Middle Eastern groups-in Egypt, Algeria, Yemen, Lebanon, Morocco, Tunisia, Somalia, and elsewhere-with which it had been linked when Bin Ladin was in Sudan. It also reinforced its London base and its other offices around Europe, the Balkans, and the Caucasus. Bin Ladin bolstered his links to extremists in South and Southeast Asia, including the Malaysian-Indonesian JI and several Pakistani groups engaged in the Kashmir conflict.80
The February 1998 fatwa thus seems to have been a kind of public launch of a renewed and stronger al Qaeda, after a year and a half of work. Having rebuilt his fund-raising network, Bin Ladin had again become the rich man of the jihad movement. He had maintained or restored many of his links with terrorists elsewhere in the world. And he had strengthened the internal ties in his own organization.
The inner core of al Qaeda continued to be a hierarchical top-down group with defined positions, tasks, and salaries. Most but not all in this core swore fealty (or bayat) to Bin Ladin. Other operatives were committed to Bin Ladin or to his goals and would take assignments for him, but they did not swear bayat and maintained, or tried to maintain, some autonomy. A looser circle of adherents might give money to al Qaeda or train in its camps but remained essentially independent. Nevertheless, they constituted a potential resource for al Qaeda.81
Now effectively merged with Zawahiri's Egyptian Islamic Jihad,82 al Qaeda promised to become the general headquarters for international terrorism, without the need for the Islamic Army Shura. Bin Ladin was prepared to pick up where he had left off in Sudan. He was ready to strike at "the head of the snake."
Al Qaeda's role in organizing terrorist operations had also changed. Before the move to Afghanistan, it had concentrated on providing funds, training, and weapons for actions carried out by members of allied groups. The attacks on the U.S. embassies in East Africa in the summer of 1998 would take a different form-planned, directed, and executed by al Qaeda, under the direct supervision of Bin Ladin and his chief aides.
Cycloptichorn wrote: Do you understand this, Ican? Radicalized by the war.
You now have my evidence to the contrary. What is your evidence to support this claim of TBG (i.e., The Boston Globe)?
Cycloptichorn wrote: We have created the vast majority of the enemies that we fight.
What is your evidence to support this claim of yours? Do not fail to mention and provide evidence to support the time periods over which we allegedly "created the vast majority of the enemies that we fight."
My hypothesis (for which I will provide evidence in subsequent posts) is that all of you who post these kinds of claims without providing valid evidence to support them, are causing increased acceleration of the growth of
malignancy.
Please stop encouraging the mass murder of civilians by
malignancy ! I think your encourageent is working!