Not disingenuous at all. I think the vast majority of Iraqis (and other Muslims around the world) do understand that Christians intend them no harm. They also understand that Christians have as much right to shoot back when shot at as anybody else does and it has absolutely nothing to do with religious beliefs on either side.
What it obviously says is that God's preference for killing is a tank.
That certainly wasn't obvious to me, Geligesti.
Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition ! ! !
. . . no, no, not the HE, give me the anti-personnel . . .
And the Lord spake, saying, 'First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then, lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.'
Sorry Set .... we're down to the 'Holy Hand Grenade'
Great minds ... well, you know...
Doesn't religion make us jump with joy?
Foxfyre wrote:Can you provide a link to the USMC site where the photo appears Walter? I poked around on the site for awhile but didn't find that photo.
Actually, I gave it on my above response - at least
I cab see it, the link works
here fine .... and comes up when using the USMC site's search function, too.
Foxfyre wrote:I'll take your word for it ehBeth. (Complete computer klutz here.) But if it is posted on the Marine website, then it apparently did pass the military censors. I frankly find it mildly offensive, but most likely not for the same reason Blatham does.
(Again: you only had to click on the link I had provided.)
Foxfyre wrote:
Notwithstanding that the 'positive proof' is from a private BLOG, doesn't it seem strange that this particular photo of a tank that 'didn't make it past the military censors' would be posted on an offiical DOD Marine website?
And now you 'only' find it 'mildly offensive'.
What made you change your opinion?
I am just surprised that the military evidently don't think anything of it and lets it be in the public domain.
Remember Pat Tillman? The army has been lying to his parents about how he was killed, and now the parents are "up in arms" against the military. The army lied about how he was killed, because that would have been a disaster to army recruitment; but with all the BS coming out of Iraq and Afghanistan, I'm not sure why anybody would 'volunteer' into the service today.
They're not in large numbers, recruitment is down which is why they're resorting to unethical tactics such as falsifying diplomas and the like.
From NYT:
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May 23, 2005
Insurgent Attacks in Iraq Kill at Least 11 and Wound Over 100
By CHRISTINE HAUSER
At least four people were killed and more than 100 injured in Baghdad today when a car bomb exploded outside of a building that houses a restaurant, according to an Iraqi official at the interior ministry. In other violence, at least 12 Iraqis, including an adviser to the prime minister, were killed in other bomb attacks and an assassination, Iraqi officials said.
Unrelenting violence has gripped Iraq in recent weeks despite the formation of its government earlier this month, posing a challenge to the country's new leaders.
A car bomb in Baghdad detonated around lunchtime in a crowded street in the Talibiyiah neighborhood, and the building where the restaurant is located bore the brunt of the blast, the interior ministry official said. At least four were dead and up to 113 people were wounded, the official said. In the Baghdad neighborhood of al-Mansour, an adviser to the prime minister, Waiel Al-Rubaie, and his driver were shot dead, the interior ministry said.
Late today, a car bomb exploded outside a Shiite mosque in Mahmoudiya, a town south of Baghdad, killing five people when the building collapsed and wounding 19, most of them children, the Reuters news agency reported.
Earlier, a car bomb also struck in a small town near Kirkuk north of Baghdad, killing the brother of an official in the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, the Kurdish party founded by Iraq's new president, Jalal Talabani. At least four others were killed in that explosion outside of the town hall in Tozkhurmatu.
Insurgents have made Iraqi officials and soldiers, as well as foreign troops, a main target of their attacks but thousands of ordinary civilians have been killed in the violence, which has stoked fears of rising sectarian strife among Iraq's ethnic and religious groups."
Squinney started a thread with that article, Walter.
The 'no deadline' thing doesn't seem to fuss the people who used to say that Iraq was going to be an in-and-out event. They've been numbed by something.
bethie
Some of us have been arguing since months before the war began that permanent bases in Iraq were a fundamental intention of this enterprise.
Oops - didn't notice that (and actually only wanted to point at that factum, Blatham mentioned above :wink: ).
I think re-posting stuff in this thread isn't neccessarily a bad thing.
I've always thought that while we may have other, shorter-lived threads for in-depth discussion of the situation, this and it's predecessors has always, to me, served as a catch-all for news about the war. I've gone back and re-read the old threads a few times and am glad for the collection of news into an easy-to-find list.
So, don't sweat it, lol
Cycloptichorn
Did you know there is a bibliography of all nine threads in the series, Boss?
