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US AND THEM: US, UN & Iraq, version 8.0

 
 
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 11:45 am
How impatient we are these days. From the time the first Americans took up arms against the British until the Brits went home and we had a new but functioning republic was nine long years. Now Americans expect striking results in days or months. Back then there were the distractors who thought the whole thing a mistake, but the majority saw a vision of possibilities and they got it done. If we had modern day mentality during the Revolutionary War, I don't think there would ever have been a United States of America.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 11:54 am
"The following document articulates the broad strategy the President set forth in 2003 and provides an update on our progress as well as the challenges remaining."
http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/iraq_national_strategy_20051130[1].pdf PDF-file. Source: National Security Council
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 12:07 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
If we had modern day mentality during the Revolutionary War, I don't think there would ever have been a United States of America.


Unfortunately George III was mad, and relied too much on his Hessian mercenaries.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 12:07 pm
U.S. Military Covertly Pays to Run Stories in Iraqi Press
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-fg-infowar30nov30,0,3132219.story?track=hpmostemailedlink

THE CONFLICT IN IRAQ
U.S. Military Covertly Pays to Run Stories in Iraqi Press
Troops write articles presented as news reports. Some officers object to the practice.
By Mark Mazzetti and Borzou Daragahi
Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
November 30, 2005

WASHINGTON ?- As part of an information offensive in Iraq, the U.S. military is secretly paying Iraqi newspapers to publish stories written by American troops in an effort to burnish the image of the U.S. mission in Iraq.

The articles, written by U.S. military "information operations" troops, are translated into Arabic and placed in Baghdad newspapers with the help of a defense contractor, according to U.S. military officials and documents obtained by the Los Angeles Times.

Many of the articles are presented in the Iraqi press as unbiased news accounts written and reported by independent journalists. The stories trumpet the work of U.S. and Iraqi troops, denounce insurgents and tout U.S.-led efforts to rebuild the country.

Though the articles are basically factual, they present only one side of events and omit information that might reflect poorly on the U.S. or Iraqi governments, officials said. Records and interviews indicate that the U.S. has paid Iraqi newspapers to run dozens of such articles, with headlines such as "Iraqis Insist on Living Despite Terrorism," since the effort began this year.

The operation is designed to mask any connection with the U.S. military. The Pentagon has a contract with a small Washington-based firm called Lincoln Group, which helps translate and place the stories. The Lincoln Group's Iraqi staff, or its subcontractors, sometimes pose as freelance reporters or advertising executives when they deliver the stories to Baghdad media outlets.

The military's effort to disseminate propaganda in the Iraqi media is taking place even as U.S. officials are pledging to promote democratic principles, political transparency and freedom of speech in a country emerging from decades of dictatorship and corruption.

It comes as the State Department is training Iraqi reporters in basic journalism skills and Western media ethics, including one workshop titled "The Role of Press in a Democratic Society." Standards vary widely at Iraqi newspapers, many of which are shoestring operations.

Underscoring the importance U.S. officials place on development of a Western-style media, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld on Tuesday cited the proliferation of news organizations in Iraq as one of the country's great successes since the ouster of President Saddam Hussein. The hundreds of newspapers, television stations and other "free media" offer a "relief valve" for the Iraqi public to debate the issues of their burgeoning democracy, Rumsfeld said.

The military's information operations campaign has sparked a backlash among some senior military officers in Iraq and at the Pentagon who argue that attempts to subvert the news media could destroy the U.S. military's credibility in other nations and with the American public.

"Here we are trying to create the principles of democracy in Iraq. Every speech we give in that country is about democracy. And we're breaking all the first principles of democracy when we're doing it," said a senior Pentagon official who opposes the practice of planting stories in the Iraqi media.

The arrangement with Lincoln Group is evidence of how far the Pentagon has moved to blur the traditional boundaries between military public affairs ?- the dissemination of factual information to the media ?- and psychological and information operations, which use propaganda and sometimes misleading information to advance the objectives of a military campaign.

The Bush administration has come under criticism for distributing video and news stories in the United States without identifying the federal government as their source and for paying American journalists to promote administration policies, practices the Government Accountability Office has labeled "covert propaganda."

Military officials familiar with the effort in Iraq said much of it was being directed by the "Information Operations Task Force" in Baghdad, part of the multinational corps headquarters commanded by Army Lt. Gen. John R. Vines. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were critical of the effort and were not authorized to speak publicly about it.

A spokesman for Vines declined to comment for this article. A Lincoln Group spokesman also declined to comment.

One of the military officials said that, as part of a psychological operations campaign that has intensified over the last year, the task force also had purchased an Iraqi newspaper and taken control of a radio station, and was using them to channel pro-American messages to the Iraqi public. Neither is identified as a military mouthpiece.

The official would not disclose which newspaper and radio station are under U.S. control, saying that naming them would put their employees at risk of insurgent attacks.

U.S. law forbids the military from carrying out psychological operations or planting propaganda through American media outlets. Yet several officials said that given the globalization of media driven by the Internet and the 24-hour news cycle, the Pentagon's efforts were carried out with the knowledge that coverage in the foreign press inevitably "bleeds" into the Western media and influences coverage in U.S. news outlets.

"There is no longer any way to separate foreign media from domestic media. Those neat lines don't exist anymore," said one private contractor who does information operations work for the Pentagon.

Daniel Kuehl, an information operations expert at National Defense University at Ft. McNair in Washington, said that he did not believe that planting stories in Iraqi media was wrong. But he questioned whether the practice would help turn the Iraqi public against the insurgency.

"I don't think that there's anything evil or morally wrong with it," he said. "I just question whether it's effective."

One senior military official who spent this year in Iraq said it was the strong pro-U.S. message in some news stories in Baghdad that first made him suspect that the American military was planting articles.

"Stuff would show up in the Iraqi press, and I would ask, 'Where the hell did that come from?' It was clearly not something that indigenous Iraqi press would have conceived of on their own," the official said.

Iraqi newspaper editors reacted with a mixture of shock and shrugs when told they were targets of a U.S. military psychological operation.

Some of the newspapers, such as Al Mutamar, a Baghdad-based daily run by associates of Deputy Prime Minister Ahmad Chalabi, ran the articles as news stories, indistinguishable from other news reports. Before the war, Chalabi was the Iraqi exile favored by senior Pentagon officials to lead post-Hussein Iraq.

Others labeled the stories as "advertising," shaded them in gray boxes or used a special typeface to distinguish them from standard editorial content. But none mentioned any connection to the U.S. military.

One Aug. 6 piece, published prominently on Al Mutamar's second page, ran as a news story with the headline "Iraqis Insist on Living Despite Terrorism." Documents obtained by The Times indicated that Al Mutamar was paid about $50 to run the story, though the editor of the paper said he ran such articles for free.

Nearly $1,500 was paid to the independent Addustour newspaper to run an Aug. 2 article titled "More Money Goes to Iraq's Development," the records indicated. The newspaper's editor, Bassem Sheikh, said he had "no idea" where the piece came from but added the note "media services" on top of the article to distinguish it from other editorial content.

The U.S. military-written articles come in to Al Mutamar, the newspaper run by Chalabi's associates, via the Internet and are often unsigned, said Luay Baldawi, the paper's editor in chief.

"We publish anything," he said. "The paper's policy is to publish everything, especially if it praises causes we believe in. We are pro-American. Everything that supports America we will publish."

Yet other Al Mutamar employees were much less supportive of their paper's connection with the U.S. military. "This is not right," said Faleh Hassan, an editor. "It reflects the tragic condition of journalists in Iraq. Journalism in Iraq is in very bad shape."

Ultimately, Baldawi acknowledged that he, too, was concerned about the origin of the articles and pledged to be "more careful about stuff we get by e-mail."

After he learned of the source of three paid stories that ran in Al Mada in July, that newspaper's managing editor, Abdul Zahra Zaki, was outraged, immediately summoning a manager of the advertising department to his office.

"I'm very sad," he said. "We have to investigate."

The Iraqis who delivered the articles also reaped modest profits from the arrangements, according to sources and records.

Employees at Al Mada said that a low-key man arrived at the newspaper's offices in downtown Baghdad on July 30 with a large wad of U.S. dollars. He told the editors that he wanted to publish an article titled "Terrorists Attack Sunni Volunteers" in the newspaper.

He paid cash and left no calling card, employees said. He did not want a receipt. The name he gave employees was the same as that of a Lincoln Group worker in the records obtained by The Times. Although editors at Al Mada said he paid $900 to place the article, records show that the man told Lincoln Group that he gave more than $1,200 to the paper.

Al Mada is widely considered the most cerebral and professional of Iraqi newspapers, publishing investigative reports as well as poetry.

Zaki said that if his cash-strapped paper had known that these stories were from the U.S. government, he would have "charged much, much more" to publish them.

According to several sources, the process for placing the stories begins when soldiers write "storyboards" of events in Iraq, such as a joint U.S.-Iraqi raid on a suspected insurgent hide-out, or a suicide bomb that killed Iraqi civilians.

The storyboards, several of which were obtained by The Times, read more like press releases than news stories. They often contain anonymous quotes from U.S. military officials; it is unclear whether the quotes are authentic.

"Absolute truth was not an essential element of these stories," said the senior military official who spent this year in Iraq.

One of the storyboards, dated Nov. 12, describes a U.S.-Iraqi offensive in the western Iraqi towns of Karabilah and Husaybah.

"Both cities are stopping points for foreign fighters entering Iraq to wage their unjust war," the storyboard reads.

It continues with a quote from an anonymous U.S. military official: " 'Iraqi army soldiers and U.S. forces have begun clear-and-hold operations in the city of Karabilah near Husaybah town, close to the Syrian border,' said a military official once operations began."

Another storyboard, written on the same date, describes the capture of an insurgent bomb-maker in Baghdad. "As the people and the [Iraqi security forces] work together, Iraq will finally drive terrorism out of Iraq for good," it concludes.

It was unclear whether those two storyboards have made their way into Iraqi newspapers.

A debate over the Pentagon's handling of information has raged since shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks.

In 2002, the Pentagon was forced to shut down its Office of Strategic Influence, which had been created the previous year, after reports surfaced that it intended to plant false news stories in the international media.

For much of 2005, a Defense Department working group has been trying to forge a policy about the proper role of information operations in wartime. Pentagon officials say the group has yet to resolve the often-contentious debate in the department about the boundaries between military public affairs and information operations.

Lincoln Group, formerly known as Iraqex, is one of several companies hired by the U.S. military to carry out "strategic communications" in countries where large numbers of U.S. troops are based.

Some of Lincoln Group's work in Iraq is very public, such as an animated public service campaign on Iraqi television that spotlights the Iraqi civilians killed by roadside bombs planted by insurgents.

Besides its contract with the military in Iraq, Lincoln Group this year won a major contract with U.S. Special Operations Command, based in Tampa, to develop a strategic communications campaign in concert with special operations troops stationed around the globe. The contract is worth up to $100 million over five years, although U.S. military officials said they doubted the Pentagon would spend the full amount of the contract.
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Mazzetti reported from Washington and Daragahi reported from Baghdad.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 12:14 pm
Info re The Lincoln Group metioned in the above article
Info re The Lincoln Group metioned in the above article:

http://www.lincolngroup.com/
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 12:42 pm
Semantics Debate: Rumsfeld Says Don't Call Them 'Insurgents'
Semantics Debate: Rumsfeld Says Don't Call Them 'Insurgents'
Published: November 29, 2005 5:22 PM ET
WASHINGTON (AP)

More than 2 1/2 years into the Iraq war, Donald H. Rumsfeld has decided the enemy are not insurgents.

"This is a group of people who don't merit the word 'insurgency,' I think," Rumsfeld said Tuesday at a Pentagon news conference. He said the thought had come to him suddenly over the Thanksgiving weekend.

"It was an epiphany."

Rumsfeld's comments drew chuckles but had a serious side.

"I think that you can have a legitimate insurgency in a country that has popular support and has a cohesiveness and has a legitimate gripe," he said. "These people don't have a legitimate gripe." Still, he acknowledged that his point may not be supported by the standard definition of `insurgent.' He promised to look it up.

Webster's New World College Dictionary defines the term "insurgent" as "rising up against established authority."

Even Gen. Peter Pace, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who stood beside Rumsfeld at the news conference, found it impossible to describe the fighting in Iraq without twice using the term `insurgent.'

After the word slipped out the first time, Pace looked sheepishly at Rumsfeld and quipped apologetically, "I have to use the word `insurgent' because I can't think of a better word right now."

Without missing a beat, Rumsfeld replied with a wide grin: "Enemies of the legitimate Iraqi government. How's that?"
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 12:55 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
"The following document articulates the broad strategy the President set forth in 2003 and provides an update on our progress as well as the challenges remaining."
http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/iraq_national_strategy_20051130[1].pdf PDF-file. Source: National Security Council

Shocked So finally, we have an aknowledgement and more evidence that the Bush administration has had a plan for securing a democracy in Iraq since February 26, 2003, almost a month before the USA invaded Iraq. Not only that we have an aknowledgement and more evidence that the Bush administration revises its plan for securing a democracy in Iraq from time to time as they recognize the need to do that.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 01:00 pm
"Democracy" in Iraq is an oxymoron. The three tribes have been at war for centuries based on sect. World history teaches us a lesson; religious differences creates friction and wars - not democracy.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 01:01 pm
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
If we had modern day mentality during the Revolutionary War, I don't think there would ever have been a United States of America.


Unfortunately George III was mad, and relied too much on his Hessian mercenaries.


Unfortunate Question George III rationally went to war with the army he had rather than the army he wanted.

I think I heard someone say something like that more recently. Rolling Eyes
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 01:06 pm
Re: U.S. Military Covertly Pays to Run Stories in Iraqi Pres
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-fg-infowar30nov30,0,3132219.story?track=hpmostemailedlink

THE CONFLICT IN IRAQ
U.S. Military Covertly Pays to Run Stories in Iraqi Press
Troops write articles presented as news reports. Some officers object to the practice.
By Mark Mazzetti and Borzou Daragahi
Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
November 30, 2005

WASHINGTON — As part of an information offensive in Iraq, the U.S. military is secretly paying Iraqi newspapers to publish stories written by American troops in an effort to burnish the image of the U.S. mission in Iraq.
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Oh my Crying or Very sad How dare USA soldiers exhibit their devotion to truth as they see it. How dare they utilize their own right of free speech that they seek to defend for others. Sad
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 01:34 pm
ican, You fail to see the problems of paid/controlled news media in Iraq, because you are blind to so many things related to it.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 01:37 pm
Mountains out of molehills.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 01:55 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
"Democracy" in Iraq is an oxymoron. The three tribes have been at war for centuries based on sect. World history teaches us a lesson; religious differences creates friction and wars - not democracy.

FALSE!
As I recall, the religion of the Pilgrims differed markedly from that of the Indians, but both eventually participated in the evolution of the USA democracy.

Immigrants from all over the world (including those from what is now Iraq), with multiple and often conflicting other religions, participated in the evolution of the USA democracy.

The posterity of all of these people are participating in the evolution of the USA democracy.

More recently Muslim immigrants from the middle east are participating in the evolution of the USA democracy.

Homogeneity of religion has rarely been a pre-requisite for the evolution of democracy.

In Europe, multiple different religous groups battled each other for thousands of years before they evolved their first democracy.

Even atheists (just another religous group -- a group whose system of beliefs is based on faith) are participating in the evolution of our democracy.

What do you think it is about the DNA of current residents of Iraq that makes them different in this respect?

What evidence do you have to support your allegation?
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 02:11 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
ican, You fail to see the problems of paid/controlled news media in Iraq, because you are blind to so many things related to it.

ABSENT EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY, your allegation is at best your baseless opinion, and at worst your compulsive fantasy.

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What is the evidence that these are any more of a problem in Iraq than in western democracies?
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 02:17 pm
McGentrix wrote:
Mountains out of molehills.

Absent mountains, what else should we expect them to do? Sad
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 03:25 pm
The history of the USA as an example for democracy in Iraq is comparing apples and oranges.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 03:36 pm
Religious States and Religious Politics



From both a simple conceptual point of view and a simplistic historical perspective, this would appear the purest of the four cases, and perhaps the most common stereotype of non-Western, hence nonsecular, societies around the world. Because religion in one sphere is matched symmetrically by religion in the other, a religious state would seem to go hand in hand with religious politics.



In fact, the combination is more the exception than the rule, and this is because it is so volatile and potentially violent. When a religious state is faced with religious politics, there is a religious conflict at issue. Under such circumstances, the state's very legitimacy is called into question, and violence may reflect preemptive actions of state control as well as the clash among contending religious parties. If there is a single pattern that lends itself to the most widespread religious and cultural violence, it is surely this one. And, alas, while the category is rare, it is hardly nonexistent.



Within our "sample" of countries, several cases invite inclusion here - at least at various points in their histories. Like most other Latin American countries, both Brazil and Guatemala were once officially Catholic states in a religious political system that involved the subjugation and suppression of indigenous religious alternatives. Formally, both countries had severed these state religious ties by the end of the nineteenth century; informally, ties have persisted in varying forms. In Brazil, the Catholic ecclesiastical hierarchy is now seeking to reappropriate and renegotiate its seat at the right hand of the state, while at the same time both church and state are engaged in a new religious politics animated by persistent strains of liberation theology on the one hand and a surging pentecostal Protestantism on the other. In Guatemala, the dominant military state has shifted its ostensible religious affiliation from Catholic to Protestant in the last decade, and there is no question that its ongoing guerilla opposition is in part a movement of Mayan religious revitalization.



Or consider the case of Israel. Many Israelis would protest its categorization as a religious state, arguing that Zionism itself can be seen as a secular movement, and that the state makes ample provision for both secular practices and various non-Judaic faiths, especially Islamic and Christian. At the same time, there is no question that the Israeli state is perceived as Jewish by most Jews and non-Jews alike. Even if this were not the case, Zionism itself may be a sufficiently sacred commitment to qualify as religious in its own terms. Certainly there is no question that Israeli politics often take religious forms. This not only applies to the participation of Muslim Palestinians, including the Hamas, but also to the struggles among various Jewish groups - whether secularists on the left or contesting movements on the right, such as the Gush Emunim and the ultra-orthodox Haredi. As Yitzhak Rabin's assassination makes clear, the stakes are large and the rates of violence are correspondingly high.



But perhaps the clearest combination of a religious state with religious politics is found in Northern Ireland. There is no question that the state is perceived in Protestant terms, whether de jure as a result of its inclusion within Anglican Britain, or de facto because of the three-hundred-year political dominance of local Protestants. Certainly there is no doubt that politics are riven with religion - at least insofar as they have involved extreme civil religious blocs that are "culturally" if not always "religiously" Protestant and Catholic respectively. The recent truce and possible signs of a negotiated settlement signal a change in the religious politics, but by no means its end. What was once a small Catholic minority may well become an effective political majority early in the next century, and Catholics have already begun to make gains through the ballot rather than the bullets of the IRA. Such a development is hastened by the increased out-migration of Protestants with resources, who read the new writing on the graffiti-emblazoned walls; it is compounded by the frustrations of those less advantaged Protestants remaining behind.



As all of the above examples attest, the combination of a religious state and religious politics has occasioned some of the most deeply rooted and tragic violence of the modern era. This makes it especially important to consider the alternatives, even though it is one thing to point out the dangers of this combination in the abstract and quite another to prevent countries from sliding towards it in reality. Then too, some of the alternatives have warts of their own.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 03:45 pm
Bush outlines Iraq 'victory plan'

Mr Bush has never laid out his plans in this way before
President George W Bush has said he will not accept "anything less than complete victory" in Iraq.
In a major policy speech, Mr Bush refused to set an "artificial deadline" to withdraw US troops, saying it was "not a plan for victory".

It comes after the release of the first Iraq strategy document, which rejects widespread calls for a timetable.

Mr Bush has come under growing pressure from Democrats on Iraq. Polls give him the lowest approval of his presidency.



As such, this was a speech from a president in deep trouble, says the BBC's Justin Webb in Washington.

Harry Reid, the Democratic leader in the Senate, said Mr Bush's speech was "recycled... tired rhetoric", and that the president had "once again missed an opportunity to lay out a real strategy for success in Iraq that will bring our troops safely home".
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 04:36 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Religious States and Religious Politics

From both a simple conceptual point of view and a simplistic historical perspective, this would appear the purest of the four cases, and perhaps the most common stereotype of non-Western, hence nonsecular, societies around the world. Because religion in one sphere is matched symmetrically by religion in the other, a religious state would seem to go hand in hand with religious politics.

...

As all of the above examples attest, the combination of a religious state and religious politics has occasioned some of the most deeply rooted and tragic violence of the modern era. This makes it especially important to consider the alternatives, even though it is one thing to point out the dangers of this combination in the abstract and quite another to prevent countries from sliding towards it in reality. Then too, some of the alternatives have warts of their own.


I agree with this essay. However, this essay does not contradict my previous post on this topic.

I wrote:
Quote:
Homogeneity of religion has rarely been a pre-requisite for the evolution of democracy.


I acknowlege the difficulties your essay points out that religious states have frequently had. Nonetheless, some religious states have nonetheless evolved into democracies as the essay you posted here acknowledges.

I also acknowledge that the USA by design did not start to evolve from a religious state into a democracy.

The Holy Roman Empire is an example of a religious state that did successfully evolve into a democracy, actually more than one democracy.

Iraq has not been a religious state in recent history. It is not a religious state at present. The Iraq Constitution declares tolerance for the coexistance of religions in the country of Iraq. However, its Constitution does say that the "undisputed" laws of Islam and those of the country of Iraq shall not be inconflict.

It is not, as you alleged, a foregone conclusion that Iraq will not evolve into a democracy:
cicerone imposter wrote:
"Democracy" in Iraq is an oxymoron. The three tribes have been at war for centuries based on sect. World history teaches us a lesson; religious differences creates friction and wars - not democracy.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 04:46 pm
US Lieutenant-General Martin Dempsey said Wednesday that he thought Iraqi commanders were responsible for recent cases of detainee torture by Iraqi security forces.
Dempsey, who oversees the US program to train security forces in Iraq, said he believed the recent cases of abuse were caused by a lack of leadership, rather than by individual soldiers or police or shortcomings of the US training regimen. Dempsey said the US program educated Iraqi security forces on human rights and the rule of law. US troops found 170 detainees imprisoned in an interior ministry building in Baghdad earlier this month, and several detainees showed signs of being tortured and being in need of food and water.
The Iraqi government has promised a probe into the torture, but has not delivered any results in two weeks as promised.

Yahoo News: Iraqi command to blame for detainee torture
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