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US AND THEM: US, UN & Iraq, version 8.0

 
 
blatham
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 04:58 am
thanks, my brit buddies
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revel
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 09:21 am
I looked but I haven't seen any mention of the Jordan attacks.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/11/10/jordan.blasts/index.html

Quote:
Al-Zarqawi's group claims Jordan terror blasts
Nearly simultaneous suicide attacks kill at least 56

Thursday, November 10, 2005; Posted: 7:35 a.m. EST (12:35 GMT)

AMMAN, Jordan (CNN) -- Al Qaeda in Iraq, a group led by wanted militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, is claiming responsibility for three suicide bombings in hotels in Amman, Jordan, according to a posting on a Web site Thursday.

At least 56 people were killed in the attacks Wednesday at the Grand Hyatt, Radisson and Days Inn hotels. Another 93 people were wounded.

The claim was made on a Web site used by the group. Its authenticity cannot be verified by CNN.

A Jordanian official earlier had said al-Zarqawi was a "prime suspect" in the terror bombings.

Several of those killed in the hotel blasts were Palestinian officials.

The blasts occurred sequentially at the Radisson, Grand Hyatt and Days Inn hotels between 9 p.m. and 10 p.m. (2 p.m. and 3 p.m. ET) Wednesday. The three international hotels are within a few hundred yards of each other.

A senior Jordanian intelligence official told CNN that all of the bombs were explosive belts worn by suicide attackers. He said officials were having a difficult time identifying the bombers because of the condition of the bodies.

No vehicles were involved in any of the attacks, he said. Earlier, officials reported that the Days Inn blast was caused by a suicide car bomb.

At the Days Inn, he said, the bomber walked into the hotel bar, where he attempted to detonate his belt but failed. He left the hotel and returned 15 minutes later, successfully detonating just inside the hotel. He had a "distinctly non-Jordanian accent," the official said.

At the Grand Hyatt, the bomber entered the hotel lobby, walked toward the bar and set off his bomb.

The largest of the three bombings targeted a wedding celebration inside a hotel banquet room.

Deputy Prime Minister Marwan Muasher said that blast, at the Radisson, was set off by a suicide bomber wearing a belt packed with explosives.



Also a deadly attack in Iraq.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/11/10/iraq.main/index.html

Quote:
At least 34 dead in Baghdad suicide blast
Bomber detonates inside restaurant

Thursday, November 10, 2005; Posted: 9:07 a.m. EST (14:07 GMT)

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A series of attacks in the Iraqi capital Thursday targeted police and civilians, including a suicide bombing at a restaurant that killed at least 34 people, Iraqi police said.

Another 25 were wounded when the bomber, strapped with explosives, detonated inside Qadduri restaurant in central Baghdad at about 9:40 a.m. (1:40 a.m. ET.)

Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch, spokesman for the Multinational Force Iraq, blamed Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian-born leader of al Qaeda in Iraq, for the attack on "a known restaurant for Iraqi police as they change shifts."

Lynch said al-Zarqawi was getting orders from Osama bin Laden's top lieutenant, Ayman al-Zawahiri.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 10:03 am
This is a very imformative peice. Everyone should read it.

Who Is Lying About Iraq?

Among the many distortions, misrepresentations, and outright falsifications that have emerged from the debate over Iraq, one in particular stands out above all others. This is the charge that George W. Bush misled us into an immoral and/or unnecessary war in Iraq by telling a series of lies that have now been definitively exposed.

What makes this charge so special is the amazing success it has enjoyed in getting itself established as a self-evident truth even though it has been refuted and discredited over and over again by evidence and argument alike. In this it resembles nothing so much as those animated cartoon characters who, after being flattened, blown up, or pushed over a cliff, always spring back to life with their bodies perfectly intact. Perhaps, like those cartoon characters, this allegation simply cannot be killed off, no matter what.

Nevertheless, I want to take one more shot at exposing it for the lie that it itself really is. Although doing so will require going over ground that I and many others have covered before, I hope that revisiting this well-trodden terrain may also serve to refresh memories that have grown dim, to clarify thoughts that have grown confused, and to revive outrage that has grown commensurately dulled.

-continued in link above-
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 11:02 am
I havent read all of Podhoretz's piece McG but its the ususal neocon story. It doesnt change much. The US is in a global struggle against evil. Evil this time round being comm...no sorry nazism no Islamism.

Yeah thats right the US has to go around the world fighting the Islamists who are determined on world domination. This is no time for the faint hearted, its a noble struggle and will unite America in its determination to .......... continued p94


yawn
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 11:18 am
And Blair lied to us.

He had already agreed to back up the invasion of Iraq before he asked Parliament to vote on it.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 12:01 pm
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
I havent read all of Podhoretz's piece McG but its the ususal neocon story. It doesnt change much. The US is in a global struggle against evil. Evil this time round being comm...no sorry nazism no Islamism.

Yeah thats right the US has to go around the world fighting the Islamists who are determined on world domination. This is no time for the faint hearted, its a noble struggle and will unite America in its determination to .......... continued p94


yawn


The US was victorious against the spread of communism, the spread of nazism and will be against the spread of fundamentalist Islam.

Does that offend you somehow? Or just bore you...
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 12:01 pm
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
I havent read all of Podhoretz's piece McG but its the ususal neocon story. It doesnt change much. The US is in a global struggle against evil. Evil this time round being comm...no sorry nazism no Islamism.

Yeah thats right the US has to go around the world fighting the Islamists who are determined on world domination. This is no time for the faint hearted, its a noble struggle and will unite America in its determination to .......... continued p94


yawn


The US was victorious against the spread of communism, the spread of nazism and will be against the spread of fundamentalist Islam.

Does that offend you somehow? Or just bore you...
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 12:01 pm
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
I havent read all of Podhoretz's piece McG but its the ususal neocon story. It doesnt change much. The US is in a global struggle against evil. Evil this time round being comm...no sorry nazism no Islamism.

Yeah thats right the US has to go around the world fighting the Islamists who are determined on world domination. This is no time for the faint hearted, its a noble struggle and will unite America in its determination to .......... continued p94


yawn


The US was victorious against the spread of communism, the spread of nazism and will be against the spread of fundamentalist Islam.

Does that offend you somehow? Or just bore you...
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 12:01 pm
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
I havent read all of Podhoretz's piece McG but its the ususal neocon story. It doesnt change much. The US is in a global struggle against evil. Evil this time round being comm...no sorry nazism no Islamism.

Yeah thats right the US has to go around the world fighting the Islamists who are determined on world domination. This is no time for the faint hearted, its a noble struggle and will unite America in its determination to .......... continued p94


yawn


The US was victorious against the spread of communism, the spread of nazism and will be against the spread of fundamentalist Islam.

Does that offend you somehow? Or just bore you...
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 12:01 pm
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
I havent read all of Podhoretz's piece McG but its the ususal neocon story. It doesnt change much. The US is in a global struggle against evil. Evil this time round being comm...no sorry nazism no Islamism.

Yeah thats right the US has to go around the world fighting the Islamists who are determined on world domination. This is no time for the faint hearted, its a noble struggle and will unite America in its determination to .......... continued p94


yawn


The US was victorious against the spread of communism, the spread of nazism and will be against the spread of fundamentalist Islam.

Does that offend you somehow? Or just bore you...
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 12:01 pm
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
I havent read all of Podhoretz's piece McG but its the ususal neocon story. It doesnt change much. The US is in a global struggle against evil. Evil this time round being comm...no sorry nazism no Islamism.

Yeah thats right the US has to go around the world fighting the Islamists who are determined on world domination. This is no time for the faint hearted, its a noble struggle and will unite America in its determination to .......... continued p94


yawn


The US was victorious against the spread of communism, the spread of nazism and will be against the spread of fundamentalist Islam.

Does that offend you somehow? Or just bore you...
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 12:01 pm
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
I havent read all of Podhoretz's piece McG but its the ususal neocon story. It doesnt change much. The US is in a global struggle against evil. Evil this time round being comm...no sorry nazism no Islamism.

Yeah thats right the US has to go around the world fighting the Islamists who are determined on world domination. This is no time for the faint hearted, its a noble struggle and will unite America in its determination to .......... continued p94


yawn


The US was victorious against the spread of communism, the spread of nazism and will be against the spread of fundamentalist Islam.

Does that offend you somehow? Or just bore you...
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 12:01 pm
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
I havent read all of Podhoretz's piece McG but its the ususal neocon story. It doesnt change much. The US is in a global struggle against evil. Evil this time round being comm...no sorry nazism no Islamism.

Yeah thats right the US has to go around the world fighting the Islamists who are determined on world domination. This is no time for the faint hearted, its a noble struggle and will unite America in its determination to .......... continued p94


yawn


The US was victorious against the spread of communism, the spread of nazism and will be against the spread of fundamentalist Islam.

Does that offend you somehow? Or just bore you...
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 12:03 pm
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
I havent read all of Podhoretz's piece McG but its the ususal neocon story. It doesnt change much. The US is in a global struggle against evil. Evil this time round being comm...no sorry nazism no Islamism.

Yeah thats right the US has to go around the world fighting the Islamists who are determined on world domination. This is no time for the faint hearted, its a noble struggle and will unite America in its determination to .......... continued p94


yawn


_The _US _was _victorious _against _the _spread _of _communism, _the _spread _of _nazism _and _will _be _against _the _spread _of _fundamentalist _Islam.

_Does _that _offend _you _somehow? _Or _just _bore _you...
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 12:40 pm
To be honest ... but you didn't even ask me once.
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Einherjar
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 12:45 pm
9 equal consecutive posts. You just failed to make the double digits McG, you need to have another go at it.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 12:57 pm
The last one had underscores in it ... so I count only 8.

What's the record?
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 01:00 pm
McGentrix wrote:
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
I havent read all of Podhoretz's piece McG but its the ususal neocon story. It doesnt change much. The US is in a global struggle against evil. Evil this time round being comm...no sorry nazism no Islamism.

Yeah thats right the US has to go around the world fighting the Islamists who are determined on world domination. This is no time for the faint hearted, its a noble struggle and will unite America in its determination to .......... continued p94


yawn


_The _US _was _victorious _against _the _spread _of _communism, _the _spread _of _nazism _and _will _be _against _the _spread _of _fundamentalist _Islam.

_Does _that _offend _you _somehow? _Or _just _bore _you...



The neocons and the islamists need each other. After the collapse of th Soviet era, America suddenly found itself without an enemy. So it invented one Smile
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 01:09 pm
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
I havent read all of Podhoretz's piece McG but its the ususal neocon story. It doesnt change much. The US is in a global struggle against evil. Evil this time round being comm...no sorry nazism no Islamism.

Yeah thats right the US has to go around the world fighting the Islamists who are determined on world domination. This is no time for the faint hearted, its a noble struggle and will unite America in its determination to .......... continued p94


yawn


_The _US _was _victorious _against _the _spread _of _communism, _the _spread _of _nazism _and _will _be _against _the _spread _of _fundamentalist _Islam.

_Does _that _offend _you _somehow? _Or _just _bore _you...



The neocons and the islamists need each other. After the collapse of th Soviet era, America suddenly found itself without an enemy. So it invented one Smile


Hard to take you seriously when you make a comment such as that. Islamic fundamentalist terrorism is a global threat, not invented by the US. Who will lead this fight if we don't? Nobody.

Are you being intentionally obtuse, or just wilfully blind?
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revel
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2005 02:08 pm
Well so far we've been doing a dandy of a job, ain't we? It just seems to me that the Iraq war had the opposite effect of stemming the tide of terrorism rather than helping anything.

Anyway, to give MCG his due, I think the A2k site been messed up. I've been getting weird error messages and stuff on here. Something like "debug error" with all those spaced out words.
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