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US AND THEM: US, UN & Iraq, version 8.0

 
 
DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Fri 30 Sep, 2005 01:09 pm
ican711nm wrote:
DontTreadOnMe wrote:
ican711nm wrote:
Malignancy Advocates Apologists and Defenders (MAAD).


ican711nm wrote:
You and the rest of the MAAD and TOMNOM...


this does not apply to me, so why don't ya drop it. you are behaving like one of the people that decides that if another person is against the war in iraq, they simply must love and adore the jihadists.

get a grip.


When you repeatedly repeat TOMNOM falsities to the effect that the US and Britain are responsible for the murders of Iraqi civilians perpetrated by malignancy, you qualify as a member of MAAD.

"Get a grip," remain opposed to the Iraq war ifyou like, but stop repeating such TOMNOM falsities.


like i said, doesn't apply to me. and since you won't drop it, i'm dropping you.
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revel
 
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Reply Sat 1 Oct, 2005 08:02 am
Most of the killing seems to be centered on Shiites, it seems to me this is turning into a not admitted civil war. If we had not invaded, the three sectors would not be killing each other to gain power in Iraq. That is a fact. One can agrue that not invading would have enventually caused more death in the world if Saddam Hussien would have built up his weapons or would have joined up with AQ or other terrorist groups but you can't deny that this invasion set off a chain of killing and death between Iraqis which did not previously take place.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/01/international/middleeast/01iraq.html

October 1, 2005
Latest Bombs Aimed at Shiites Kill 8 at Southern Iraq Market
By SABRINA TAVERNISE


Quote:
BAGHDAD, Iraq, Sept. 30 - A car bomb detonated Friday near a fruit and vegetable market in Hilla, a Shiite town south of Baghdad, killing at least 8 people and wounding 41. It was the second attack in two days of bloodletting that has left 110 people dead.

The bomb, packed into a Mercedes sedan, was remotely detonated at 10:15 a.m. in Al Sharia market in central Hilla, tearing into a crowd of people shopping for food, a police official said. Two of the dead were children younger than 10 and two were women, said Dr. Baha al-Din Eqbal, a doctor at Hilla Hospital.

About 30 minutes after the first explosion, another car bomb detonated outside an American military base in the northern part of the city. There were no reports of casualties and the connection to the first bombing, if any, was unknown.

The first attack was similar to one just 16 hours before in Balad, 50 miles north of Baghdad, where three truck bombs exploded in quick succession, two in a crowded marketplace frequented mostly by Shiites. In that attack the death toll, initially reported as 62, rose sharply overnight and by Friday afternoon had reached 102, including 18 children, according to Dr. Qasim al-Qaisi, the manager of Balad Hospital. In all, 150 people were wounded, he said.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 1 Oct, 2005 09:46 am
US Army General George Casey, the senior US commander in Iraq, expressed concern over the Iraqi constitution at a news conference Friday, saying the draft had created divisiveness among the country's ethnic groups, as many Iraqi Sunnis are opposed to it and intend to vote against it.

Casey cited this divisiveness as one reason he is uncertain when American and coalition troops can begin to withdraw from Iraq.
In the past week, Casey has revised his predictions for the start of a troop withdrawal from early 2006 to later next year.

Official transcript news conference


Voice of America: US General Calls Iraqi Constitution Divisive
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 1 Oct, 2005 11:07 am
Yeah, but, Bush said he's "a uniter and not a divider." Seems it's the opposite in extremes by everything he touches. Wonder where he's thinking about to bring democracy to next? He's already destroyed the US and our relationship to our allies. We're now battling Intelligent Design vs Evolution in the US. It boggles the mind how any one person can destroy so many things. .
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 1 Oct, 2005 05:00 pm
revel wrote:
Most of the killing seems to be centered on Shiites, it seems to me this is turning into a not admitted civil war. If we had not invaded, the three sectors would not be killing each other to gain power in Iraq. That is a fact. One can agrue that not invading would have enventually caused more death in the world if Saddam Hussien would have built up his weapons or would have joined up with AQ or other terrorist groups but you can't deny that this invasion set off a chain of killing and death between Iraqis which did not previously take place.

Whether or not what is happening now qualifies as a civil war, it certainly qualifies as a mass murder of civilians. And I do agree that the USA invasion of Iraq set off a new chain of killing and death between Iraqis which almost duplicates what previously did in fact take place.

Saddam's regime previously did the same thing at about the same as the current average daily rate. That is, Saddam's regime murdered civilians at the average daily rate of more than 35 over the 12 year period 1991 to 2003, for a total of more than 150,000.

I believe the quickest, most effective, and most moral way to terminate this current horrific carnage is to incinerate and not incarcerate, when captured, those and their accomplices who are mass murdering civilians (i.e., malignancy). Also necessary is the unqualified support by a large majority of Americans for this brutal and ruthless procedure which will save a great many lives.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 1 Oct, 2005 06:08 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
... It boggles the mind how any one person can destroy so many things. .


It boggles my mind that you think the following persons destroyed less rather than immensely more of horrendously greater significance than did George Bush:
Osama bin Laden
Ayman al Zawahiri
Turabi
Stalin
Hitler
Hirohito
Mao Zedong
Ho Chi Minh
Milosevich(sic)
Pol Pot
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 1 Oct, 2005 06:24 pm
ican, Your comparisons of Bush to those other tyrants is ironic - to say the least. ROFLMAO

Gotta slot Bush up there in the top ten.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 1 Oct, 2005 06:24 pm
But Bush isn't finished with his destruction....
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 1 Oct, 2005 08:42 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
ican, Your comparisons of Bush to those other tyrants is ironic - to say the least. ROFLMAO
Gotta slot Bush up there in the top ten.


First you claimed about Bush: "It boggles the mind how any one person can destroy so many things."

Now you claim:"Gotta slot Bush up there in the top ten."

Behind whom?

Ahead of whom?

Why?

Your claims are schizophrenic-- to say the least!
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 1 Oct, 2005 09:01 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
But Bush isn't finished with his destruction....


Malignancy-Advocates-Apologists-Defenders (MAAD), while refusing to acknowledge malignancy's unshared guilt for what it is actually doing, blame others for the horrific crimes committed by malignancy.

You've said you want the US military to leave Iraq!

Ok then! Do something constructive! Try to convince malignancy to stop for a year murdering Iraqi civilians.

That will surely stop what you MAADly call George Bush's destruction.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 1 Oct, 2005 09:01 pm
"Behind whom?" Take your pick. You made the list/

"Ahead of whom?" Take your pick. You made the list.

Why" Because you made the list that makes sense.

Your ad hominems only shows the weakness of your arguments.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 1 Oct, 2005 09:20 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
"Behind whom?" Take your pick. You made the list/

"Ahead of whom?" Take your pick. You made the list.

Why" Because you made the list that makes sense.

Your ad hominems only shows the weakness of your arguments.


Your response is senseless.

You claimed:"Gotta slot Bush up there in the top ten." Yet you are unwilling to say where and why you would place Bush in what you called the top ten. That behavior is weird.

I wrote: Your claims are schizophrenic-- to say the least!

That's not ad hominem. That's ad your claim.

I wrote here your response is senseless. That's not ad hominem either. That's ad your response.

I also wrote here your behavior is weird. That too is not ad hominem. That is ad your behavior.

But if I had written you are a fool, that would have been ad hominem.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 1 Oct, 2005 09:49 pm
ofcoarse it's senseless - only to you! You develop a list, and don't understand what you wrote. Makes sense to me! LOL
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McTag
 
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Reply Sat 1 Oct, 2005 11:54 pm
ican711nm wrote:
McTag wrote:
ican711nm wrote:
McTag wrote:
ican711nm wrote:
DontTreadOnMe wrote:
just wait. the phrase "giving aid and comfort to the enemy" is gonna come up.


This is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Here you made that phrase come up all by yourself.

Malignancy Advocates Apologists and Defenders (MAAD), while refusing to acknowledge what they themselves are actually doing, blame others for the horrific crimes committed by malignancy.


I blame the deaths of civilians and innocents in Iraq on the fact that an occupying force has been dropping bombs and firing bullets at them.


You and the rest of the MAAD and TOMNOM not withstanding, the murderers of Iraqi civilians and innocents are the malignancy.

If the malignancy were to stop murdering Iraqi civilians and innocents, the US and British military would be asked by the Iraqi government to leave, and the US and British military would be happy to leave.


So the big new embassy/ administration complex and the military bases were built for nothing, nothing at all, and the US would be happy to leave Iraq and its oilfields if the Iraqi govenment were to ask. And leave all that American money and Iraqi oil behind. I see.

You "see!" Congratulations!

Then we agree! Shocked

"The big new embassy/ administration complex and the military bases were built for nothing, nothing at all" is TOMNOM invention, and are MAAD repetitions.

The American embassy in Iraq is a converted Saddam palace.

The American military bases in Iraq are currently housing the more than 100 thousand US troops in Iraq. When the US military vacates Iraq these same bases can be used by the Iraqis own military.

All the US desires regarding Iraqi oil is that it flow unimpeded, sell at prevailing free market prices, and its net revenues flow to the Iraqi people.

All the malignancy has to do to get the Iraqi government to ask the US and British military to leave is to stop murdering Iraqi civilians.

Since nothing, nothing, nothing can justify murdering civilians, those who doubt All the malignancy has to do to get the Iraqi government to ask the US and British military to leave is to stop murdering Iraqi civilians ought to at least be willing to give it a try for a year.


Wrong. The bases in Iraq are intended for a premanent American garrison there, with the compliance of a puppet government which would depend on their presence for its survival. From there, military control of the ME can be achieved.
That was the original plan, which is still being pursued, and which might yet come unstuck if they can't stop fighters and bombers coming in from Iran and Syria.
This is what they're attempting to do at the moment by the current military operation.
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sun 2 Oct, 2005 07:30 am
A few nuggets
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McTag
 
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Reply Sun 2 Oct, 2005 08:02 am
Thanks for the nuggets, Gel.

I liked this one: http://www.projectcensored.org/censored_2006/index.htm#9

It was stated by some that the reason Saddam's Iraq got invaded when it did was his decision shortly before, to sell his oil in Euros and not US dollars.
So this is doubly interesting: Iran is threatened now (although protected by China) because it wishes to sell its oil in Euros.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 2 Oct, 2005 08:29 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
ofcoarse it's senseless - only to you! You develop a list, and don't understand what you wrote. Makes sense to me! LOL


You made the absurd statement about Bush: "It boggles the mind how any one person can destroy so many things."

I countered with a list of eleven persons who unlike Bush actually did "destroy so many things."

Bush hasn't destroyed anything other than part of malignancy. Your repeated libels of Bush are symptoms of an all to comon mental disorder. Bush isn't a problem. The malignancy and MAAD together are a problem--a horrific problem.

Malignancy consists of those who mass murder civilians or are accomplices to those who mass murder civilians.

Malignancy-Advocates-Apologists-Defenders (MAAD), while refusing to acknowledge malignancy's unshared guilt for what malignancy is actually doing, blame others for the horrific crimes committed by malignancy.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 2 Oct, 2005 08:47 am
Gelisgesti wrote:


More bunk propaganda produced by the raging ovens of TOMNOM.

The Oxy-Moron News-Opinion Media
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 2 Oct, 2005 09:03 am
McTag wrote:
... Wrong. The bases in Iraq are intended for a premanent American garrison there, with the compliance of a puppet government which would depend on their presence for its survival. From there, military control of the ME can be achieved.

Silly Bunk! Every American embassy in the world has a small marine contingent whose only job is to protect the residents of that embassy. Military control of the ME is not a USA goal.

That was the original plan, which is still being pursued, and which might yet come unstuck if they can't stop fighters and bombers coming in from Iran and Syria.

More Silly Bunk!

This is what they're attempting to do at the moment by the current military operation.

More Silly Bunk!


Your gullible acceptance of TOMNOM propaganda is incredible.

Malignancy are those who mass murder civilians or are accomplices of those who mass murder civilians.

Malignancy-Advocates-Apologists-Defenders (MAAD), while refusing to acknowledge malignancy's unshared guilt for what malignancy is actually doing, blame others for the horrific crimes committed by malignancy.

The Oxy-Moron News-Opinion Media (TOMNOM) cooks their propaganda for MAAD
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 2 Oct, 2005 09:11 am
Three basic reasons we invaded Iraq are the same three basic reasons we invaded Afghanistan:

1. Al Qaeda murdered almost 3,000 civilians in the USA on September 11, 2001;

2. Afghanistan’s government tolerated Al Qaeda training camps established in their midst May 1996, and ignored repeated USA requests made in September and October 2001 to stop doing that; and Iraq’s government tolerated Al Qaeda training camps established in their midst in December 2001, and ignored repeated USA requests made in 2002 and in February 2003 to stop doing that;

3. Removal of Al Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan and in Iraq required removal of the governments of these countries because these governments would otherwise continue to tolerate Al Qaeda training camps in their midst.
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