Baldimo wrote:DontTreadOnMe wrote:candidone1 wrote:IMO, they are answering calls that genetics and human history has given them, not MTV.
i agree with you. it's called "the sex urge" for a reason.
here's something that i find interesting. many? most? all? of the proponents of the abstinance only pov, it would seem, are also proponents of creationism (or it's new spin, intelligent design...) over evolution. i.e., god created the heavens (which i tend to agree with) and the earth (isn't that covered under the heading, "heavens"?), along with the instantaneous appearance of adam, then eve. so every thing and every being would then be a work of god. every aspect of the human being would then be the condition
intended by god. including the sexual urge. yes? no?
as we know, the "naughtiness" of sex is a fairly recent development in the history of man. only a few hundred years, really. but if we want to be liberal about it, we could for the sake of argument say, 1500 to 2000 years. still, a relative drop in the bucket of mankind's existence.
very often i have heard this explained by the philosophy that, unlike animals, man has "risen above" the beastial urges and walks a higher plane. the mind has grown sufficently to control the natural urges of the body...
isn't that type of concept commonly evolving, or evolution ?
either way, when all else fails, blame it on rock 'n roll. or hollywood...
You don't think this "sexual revolution" that has taken place in the last 30 or 40 years hasn't had an effect on the youth? Sure the times when my parents were young were a little prude but when my son can pull WebPages off the Internet dealing with "butt love" then there is a limit that has been surpassed. The sexual innocence that I enjoyed as a child is being lost on the youth of today. When children the age of 13 and sometimes younger have talks about BJ's then there is something that is out of control.
I heard a teacher of a middle school on the radio the other night and she called in to mention that she reads and hears about 6th and 7th graders talking about sexual acts that at their age they really shouldn't know about.
I don't have an issue with sex in general and even porn on the Internet is fine, I just find it a little unnerving that it is so easy to find. Like I said, "butt love" easily found by 7 year olds who aren't looking for it is an issue.
um, i understand your meaning baldi. but rather than putting it down to the "sexual revolution", i feel like it's more about the "human revolution". there's virtually no corner of our lives, reality, society or what have you that hasn't become nearly unrecognizable from what we experienced as kids. just a few obvious examples;
there are young people who have never seen or heard a vinyl record. many have never had a cassette deck in their car. remember the first time you saw a walkman ? know any kids that have one ? no ? how about an ipod ?
when i was born, the jet airplane was functionally less than ten years old. the sound barrier had not been broken. alan shepard had not blasted into space. now americans have been to the moon multiple times, there's a space station. except in the case of tragedy, space shuttle launches became so commonplace that it rarely gets airtime. we have a space telescope that can actually look back in time to nearly the beginning of the universe.
even as a teenager, my hometown had only three television stations and less than a dozen radio stations, and that's including the 30 watters that carried the preachers. now, there is access to channels from around the world. the best radio comes from satellites down to a radio you can pull out of your car and take to your desk.
cancer is no longer an automatic death sentence. polio and tuberculosis are rare. don't like wearing glasses ? a short, outpatient eye surgery can fix ya right up. many physical defects can be corrected or repaired at the time of birth. i'm not sure, but i think i've even heard that some things can be fixed in the womb. i had a hernia operation when i was 6 or 7. i was in the hospital for 3 or 4 days. more recently, i under went quad bypass on a tuesday afternoon and was sent home on saturday.
the point i'm trying to make is that we cannot lock the world out anymore. the genie is out of the bottle, etc.
the same mental evolution and precociousness (sic?) that allows my 7 year old great nephew to run circles around my nephew in all things computer is the same quality that allows him to take in and comprehend things that we (yep. i say we because there are still some areas of awareness that even
i think he should not know about yet) find to be too adult.
but ya know, baldi, some of the things that you mentioned were pretty common knowledge among me and my fellow 13 year olds. and 11 or 12 year olds for that matter.
the only thing that made any of it confusing to me was that my very straight laced parents refused to even enter a discussion about sex. i'm still waiting for my dad to tell me about the birds and the bees. i learned about that stuff the good old fashioned way... on the street.
what little sex ed they offered in "health and p.e." was limited to little more than; "this is a boy, he has a penis. this is a girl, she doesn't." frankly, if there'd been realistic discussion about the whole thing, there would have been a lot less teen pregnancy. but the same people who don't like the idea of meaningful and in depth education about sex are pretty much the same people (or type of person) that made such a stink about it back then.
still, i do have to agree with you that it is a little disconcerting when i try to google info on my "siamese cat" and the first few pages are hits advertising sites for "babes with hot $#$%#&%&" or whatever.
but that's not an issue of censorship being the fix, but more like better rules on what keywords and meta data can be submitted for those types of sites.
until then, there are several "kids only" connections, i think aol has one. also user installable gate keepers like net nanny.
but when all else fails, parents that are really concerned about what their kids see or hear in the home can spend time surfing or watching tv with the kid, or even just not have tv, radio or the internet in the home.
there is no good substitution for good parenting.
hope all else is well with you, dude...
dtom
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