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Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 15 Oct, 2005 11:09 am
wand, We keep repeating numbers that are ireelavant, but he keeps showing us numbers. His psycho-babble is meaningless. His insistence to bring up numbers just shows how ignorant he is about the laws and constitution of our country.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Sat 15 Oct, 2005 11:26 am
spendyman

have you been on the john smith smooth again?
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spendius
 
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Sat 15 Oct, 2005 11:50 am
Steve-

I sure have.Never miss a night.It's a good drink.Makes you mellow.

Aren't you glad we haven't got a written constitution?
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Steve 41oo
 
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Sat 15 Oct, 2005 12:04 pm
yes on the whole, I think I am glad.

But not ecstatic. After all you can always re write it. And when not being re written, you can refer to it.

I've gone off beer just at the moment...vino plonko is my tipple for now.
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spendius
 
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Sat 15 Oct, 2005 12:43 pm
Steve-

I'm not ecstatic either.It takes more than having or not having a written constitution to get me there.But rewriting the American constitution is a bit harder than suggesting it.
Have you been following this "debate"?

I get too blown on wine.I fell into a ditch with it once.But a bottle is okay at lunchtime when the thirst hasn't got raging.
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wandeljw
 
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Sat 15 Oct, 2005 12:59 pm
Steve,

You probably live several miles away from spendius. I would appreciate it though if you can get together with him and find him something better to drink!
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spendius
 
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Sat 15 Oct, 2005 01:24 pm
Wande-

What do you drink then?

Perhaps if I drank that I might become more amenable to the type of discourse you seem to find so agreeable.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 15 Oct, 2005 01:26 pm
Make it something stronger than 12 percent alcohol.
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spendius
 
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Sat 15 Oct, 2005 01:29 pm
Hemlock you mean?
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wandeljw
 
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Sat 15 Oct, 2005 01:45 pm
spendius,

I don't drink anything with alcohol.........maybe that is why I am so dull.

Maybe Steve can find something that will make you forget Veblen.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Sat 15 Oct, 2005 01:52 pm
wandeljw wrote:
Steve,

You probably live several miles away from spendius.


a safe distance
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spendius
 
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Sat 15 Oct, 2005 02:12 pm
FORGET VEBLEN!!!!!

Are you kidding mate.I wouldn't like to try to estimate how much money Veblen has saved me nor how much futile effort.And the fun I have with it never stops.I love the guy and his stunning prose which I can imitate if I have a mind.You should thank me for sparing you that.He is a basic source of many American comedy films and shows.He cleared my head up for good and all.

If you have read him you must not have got it but I will admit it took me a while.I often fantasise about what a marvel it would be if he came in my pub every night.Him and Proust and Flaubert and Stendhal and me.Oh-I'd be in Heaven.They would have to provide us with a private room for the laughing.Oh-and Auberon Waugh as well.Of course.
And his Dad.ID/SD would slay us.
Have you never laughed from morning to night in contemplating the general absurdity.

Veblen said that America (100 yrs ago) was in the way of being something of a psychiatric ward.

He probably saved my life.I was quite well educated you see and hence in dire need of rescue.
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wandeljw
 
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Mon 17 Oct, 2005 01:11 pm
Quote:
School Case Begins Over 'Intelligent Design' Policy
( Associated Press, October 17, 2005)
HARRISBURG, Pa. -- A Lehigh University biochemistry professor and leading advocate of intelligent design testified Monday that evolutionary theory should be taught to science students.
But, he said it alone cannot explain complex biological phenomena.
Professor Michael Behe was the first witness called by the Dover Area school board Monday in a landmark federal trial over whether intelligent design can be mentioned in public school science classes as an alternative to the theory of evolution.
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Behe said students should be taught evolution because it's widely used in science and that, "any well-educated student should understand it."
But Behe also argued that evolution cannot fully explain the biological complexities of life, thus suggesting the work of an intelligent force.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 17 Oct, 2005 02:02 pm
Evolution cannot fully explain the complexities of life, but science is working on it. Even Behe seems to forget how new science and technology is when compared to the life of man.
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rosborne979
 
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Mon 17 Oct, 2005 03:08 pm
wandeljw wrote:
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But Behe also argued that evolution cannot fully explain the biological complexities of life, thus suggesting the work of an intelligent force.


So let's see if we can follow Behe's logic: Evolution doesn't explain everything (yet), thus suggesting the presence of magic.

Brilliant, that should really help us move forward in understanding the world around us.
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spendius
 
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Mon 17 Oct, 2005 03:24 pm
ros-

You'll never move anything with this type of debate.

'Cept some money might shift positions.Money won't move unless it is impelled.
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rosborne979
 
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Mon 17 Oct, 2005 03:48 pm
spendius wrote:
You'll never move anything with this type of debate.


Some may move, some may stay, but that doesn't change the validity of what I say.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Mon 17 Oct, 2005 04:04 pm
that rhymes ros

aliteration?

spendimoney, from whence the impetus?
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rosborne979
 
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Mon 17 Oct, 2005 04:04 pm
rosborne979 wrote:
wandeljw wrote:
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But Behe also argued that evolution cannot fully explain the biological complexities of life, thus suggesting the work of an intelligent force.


So let's see if we can follow Behe's logic: Evolution doesn't explain everything (yet), thus suggesting the presence of magic.

Brilliant, that should really help us move forward in understanding the world around us.


Here it is from Lehigh University, Behe's own home...

Department Position on Evolution and "Intelligent Design"

The faculty in the Department of Biological Sciences is committed to the highest standards of scientific integrity and academic function. This commitment carries with it unwavering support for academic freedom and the free exchange of ideas. It also demands the utmost respect for the scientific method, integrity in the conduct of research, and recognition that the validity of any scientific model comes only as a result of rational hypothesis testing, sound experimentation, and findings that can be replicated by others.

The department faculty, then, are unequivocal in their support of evolutionary theory, which has its roots in the seminal work of Charles Darwin and has been supported by findings accumulated over 140 years. The sole dissenter from this position, Prof. Michael Behe, is a well-known proponent of "intelligent design." While we respect Prof. Behe's right to express his views, they are his alone and are in no way endorsed by the department. It is our collective position that intelligent design has no basis in science, has not been tested experimentally, and should not be regarded as scientific.

Copyright © 2003 Lehigh University. All Rights Reserved.
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rosborne979
 
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Mon 17 Oct, 2005 04:06 pm
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
that rhymes ros
Yeh, I kinda liked that Wink
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