Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

NOSHA ATTA DE BOSS POSH TROUGH BABS -they call her.

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What do AIDsers think about "Cunning Design".

Intelligence can be over-rated. Especially by the intelligent segment of the social product who have already defined intelligent as they see fit.

It was the cunning of the Tierra-del-Fuegians who stole the boat which led FitzRoy to take hostages which led to all sorts of evangelical stuff which led to, after an irreducibly complex perplexity of events, each one trivial unless seen in a wider context, Charles Darwin finding himself in the cramped quarters of The Beagle and a lot of time to think things over, which led to Ms Forrest holding forth upon the subject of how idiotic the lower orders are.

As if we didn't already know. Like it was some blinding insight she has had.

Her literature teachers were obviously employed for minding functions and giving her Mom and Pop a rest.

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SPENDI SAYS

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I have the brain the size of a cashew

finally, some insight

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I think that's "out of sight!" LOL

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Did I really say-

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I have the brain the size of a cashew

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I must have been well out of it at the time.

I once wrote half a song dedicated to a lady called " Her conscience is the size of a pip." But a brain the size of a cashew is not my style. Cashew has too many letters. It fails on both scientific and artistic considerations.
It's hopeless.

I sincerely apologise.

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Francis wrote:

How can someone that shows such bias in political matters to be taken seriously about science?

First, I don't make arguments based on my authority, I present what I know and if challenged, will supply you with evidence or in the case where it's stupidly easy, point you where you can figure it out yourself. As such, feel free to ignore me and not take me "seriously", but give my arguments a go.

Second, what political bias are you talking about? Do you deny that creationists are incredibly incompetent? Moses riding a dinosaur, Francis. Moses riding a dinosaur.

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Shirakawasuna wrote:

Second, what political bias are you talking about?

Leftie lawmakers..

Shirakawasuna wrote:

feel free to ignore me and not take me "seriously"

I will, I will...

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spendius wrote:

I think Francis means how revealing it is for an AIDser to admit that.

I don't remember admitting anything, so please don't lie about me.

spendius wrote:

I have been revealing the political and economic aspects of the deep divisions on these matters ever since I came on the thread.

lol, please prop up that ego some more. Make some sex references with allusions to artistic wit. (Oh, and you've been revealing some things, alright... just not what you apparently think you have)

spendius wrote:

Entirely, as far as I remember, without any of them catching an AIDser's eye. Resort to insult and blackguarding my character was the only answer.

Oh, you mean the ones hidden in rants and attempts at literary wit? How have you been revealing anything if no one understands what the hell you're saying?

spendius wrote:

What I find very difficult to understand is why people will encourage a competitor state to catch up with the state the encourager lives and works in. To damage your own state's interests for no other reason than to make a big noise about reason and critical thinking seems ridiculous.

Competitor state? Sorry, I'm not quite a douche-ie as you imply. I like other states just fine, thanks. Some of them happen to have have ignoramuses (or worse, malicious liars) in charge, though, and I don't like ignoramuses or malicious liars being in charge. I get enough of basic ignorance and lies from most politicians, thanks.

So yeah, sorry to burst your bubble, but I actually do care about the quality of education in other peoples' states a lot more than any competition mine would receive because there were actually *more* competent people around. Do you really expect someone to think, "Oh man, it'd be terrible if Louisiana had non-ignorant graduates. Then we'd have more educated people to compete with! McDonald's jobs and an uninformed public for all!"

spendius wrote:

It seems to defy Mr Fields's famous injunction--"Never smarten up a chump".

Yeah, see I don't consider people I merely disagree with or people who are ignorant to be "chumps", people to be ridiculed and dismissed.

spendius wrote:

These southern states already have enough advantages as it is. And people in that position might prefer to buy in their science with the attractions of those advantages as an inducement.

Oh God, an educated south. Oh woe is me, the hotbed of creationism would have more rational people and better tech/science jobs. Do you even think these things through or do you just invent a bias and find a way to support it, no matter how ridiculous?

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Francis wrote:

Leftie lawmakers..

What about them?

Francis wrote:

I will, I will...

Have fun with that Wink

. I'm so glad that you feel comfortable making such judgments without any attempt to even explain it.

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spendius wrote:

It has already been shown that "Media" is on the AIDser's side and that it is a potential beneficiary on a grand scale of the AIDser's position winning this argument. It is talking through its pocket.

Every item wande has quoted has pushed the same line.

One might think that AP might have managed to eliminate the repetition of the phrase " Barbara Forrest, a philosophy professor at Southeastern Louisiana University, and a strong opponent of the bill." A heavy metal solecism and implying little effort in order to fill up the space.

*Newsflash*: the standard in mainstream news journalism is laziness. Someone gets a story, everyone else jumps on and rides it. In the laziest possible fashion while still having a semblance of journalism (just the semblance).

spendius wrote:

Ms Forrest serves on the board of directors of the National Center for Science Education (NCSE), the Board of Trustees of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, and the New Orleans Secular Humanist Association (NOSHA).

Really--it's a cute way of trying to line up Philosophy with opposition to the bill.

lol, you're right: they should call her a professor of unspecified concentration at some educational institution (we can't have them lining her up with a university, either!).

spendius wrote:

Which is impossible unless every teacher in every school has been vetted and approved by recruiters of the same persuasion as Ms Forrest. Which will obviously result in "entryism" by atheists. That would require that the school boards and all the bureaucrats involved are of the same persuasion and thus American school public edication with become atheistic from top to bottom.

Just when I think you can't write something more inventive and paranoid.....

spendius wrote:

And I think she is discrediting philosophy and science.

Really? For you specifically, on a personal level?

spendius wrote:

I also think that wande should consider his position. He is giving viewers of this thread the impression that a wide variety of sources are behind AIDs-ism when in actual fact all his posts are derived from partial sources of unelected people in organisations the leadership of which is in few hands and who carefully avoid anything to do with what their long term aims might be and what motives they have for pursuing them.

lol, "wide variety of sources". When did he ever imply that, spendius? Or are you pretending that your imagination = reality again? He's just been giving various updates on related issues.

Of course, your descriptions of what he's been posting is likely based near nothing, as usual. You seem to have taken your suspicion of the AP towing the atheist line and elevated it to the status of fact.

spendius wrote:

And the whole article, using the term loosely, is posited on a "may".

Duh. The legislation is ambiguous and hasn't been passed yet. Are you honeslty surprised that an article about this expresses uncertainty in this way given the ambiguity and hypothetical nature of the issue? I suppose the alternative is that you're just using the pretense of criticism posed as if it were reasonable to score some cheap points, but that wouldn't be too scrupulous, would it?

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Mr S. wrote-

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Oh, you mean the ones hidden in rants and attempts at literary wit

I can't touch you S at the ranting game. You don't answer a single point in your responses.

And do you disparage attempts at literary wit? They are better than no attempts. AIDsers are witless by definition. Like bus timetables. Dead accurate and boring.

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I like my facts to be "Dead accurate". The boring part I'm sure for certain persons here in regards to evolution is the lack of flash-bang magic.

Poof!! There. I hath made all the bugs.
Poof,poofpoof, poof! Now there is horsies.

Joe(and horseflies)Nation

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Joe (I know the right time) Nation wrote-

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Poof,poofpoof, poof! Now there is horsies

You have to hold your hand up Joe. **** hot ain't it. Especially with my record at backing winners in big races.

New Approach must have a hell of a chance in the Arc if they get it there.

And those who backed The Gutsy Broad at 2 gets 1 can teach me nothing.

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Poof: the ultra-complex, so hard to understand, eyeball is created.

Whammo! We gots dinosaurs.
Poof! Now we don't.
Zap! Wings: butterfly type, housefly type, eagle type and the nearly unused ones on thrips are all made.

Joe(Guess by who?)Nation

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I rather enjoy "KA FLAAM" as a signifier of special creation.
Followed by "ZOW" and "KABOOOOM".

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Poof--We got double entry book-keeping.

KA FLAAM-- we got credit.

ZOW--We got paper money.

KABOOOOM--we got splitting the cent.

SCRUNCH--we got derivatives.

KA POW--we went bust.

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BURP--you ingest another pint

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aidan wrote on the Acronym game-

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Christians have real, inspired sex?! That's INCREDIBLE! And normal....

And true. It's exciting is sinning.

AIDsers copulate, fornicate, mate and mix DNA. It's efficient mind you.

It only takes a minute or two. Thrips do it on the wing so fast you wouldn't know unless you had a 1000 frame / sec camera to make thrip-porn with.

Dinosaurs could hardly get on by the end. And when they did they couldn't get off.

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spendius wrote:
aidan wrote on the Acronym game-

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Christians have real, inspired sex?! That's INCREDIBLE! And normal....

And true. It's exciting is sinning.

So you consider having sex to be sinning Spendius?

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AIDsers copulate, fornicate, mate and mix DNA. It's efficient mind you.

God said, 'Judge not lest ye be judged' - how do you know their's isn't just as inspired (by whatever it is they hold worthy or worship and awe)

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Dinosaurs could hardly get on by the end. And when they did they couldn't get off.

Funny...is that what happened? An epidemic of impotency- or is that only up? Is it impotency when it's up but can't go off?

Sorry - just being silly

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Feel free Becksie.

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So you consider having sex to be sinning Spendius?

Sure do. The naughtier the better.

All the atheists I've discussed the matter with have grudgingly admitted that nice devout Catholic girls are where it's it. Why do you think I fight to keep the convent schools thriving. "Oh my God"!!

What does "naughty" mean to an atheist?

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AIDsers copulate, fornicate, mate and mix DNA. It's efficient mind you.

God said, 'Judge not lest ye be judged' - how do you know their's isn't just as inspired (by whatever it is they hold worthy or worship and awe)

I didn't judge. I even complimented them on their efficiency.

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Is it impotency when it's up but can't go off?

Try it. Henry the V111 famously said- "but who's going to lift me off?"

Cue joke about Alsation throwing a bucket of water over a couple on a tandem.

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