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Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

 
 
spendius
 
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Wed 16 Apr, 2008 03:30 pm
There were 10,000 at the do and millions applauding worldwide. I'll bet tickets were more prized than a diamond necklace.

They said that a few Catholics in Ohio swung it for Mr Bush.

And no candidate in sight representing the position of those two posts from fm and c.i. and I shouldn't think any govenors of any states either.

But fancy referring to The Pope and the President in that manner. I should think their view of such things is much like mine.

I will express a tentative opinion. I think Mr Bush will go down as one of your greatest presidents. In view of the complexity of the problems he faced perhaps the greatest.

Sorry Wolf--it's pub time. Gotta feed my dypsomania ya know. And see what's happening on the streets not on TV.
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Wed 16 Apr, 2008 03:43 pm
Well, it's no use you going to the pub, then spendi. You'll be too drunk to remember anything! Laughing
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Mathos
 
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Wed 16 Apr, 2008 03:44 pm
I've been telling you all for years, he's daft, but you keep on encouraging him!

Ah well!; as long as you keep him here, there's a village in Yorkshire minus an idiot!



Spendi said;

I think Mr Bush will go down as one of your greatest presidents. In view of the complexity of the problems he faced perhaps the greatest.


Don't you love farce?
My fault I fear.
I thought that you'd want what I want.
Sorry, my dear.
But where are the clowns?
Quick, send in the clowns.
Don't bother, they're here.


You couldn't make this little lot up, could you now!
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Wed 16 Apr, 2008 03:45 pm
Wait a minute! it's quarter to eleven! Don't you think it's a bit late to be going to a pub on a Wednesday night, spendi?
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spendius
 
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Wed 16 Apr, 2008 05:01 pm
I daren't go any earlier in case I get pissed and have a headache in the morning.

Pain is a sign of ridiculous behaviour.

It's an evolutionary mechanism.
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spendius
 
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Wed 16 Apr, 2008 05:11 pm
Mathos-

It is cheating to misquote people.

I said it was a tentative opinion.

Why did you miss that out?

I could say-

Mathos said- "My fault I fear" if that sort of chopping up is acceptable.

Do you not allow that using slimey editing grants permission for others to do the same or is your slimey editing the only editing that is allowed.

You're a bloody commie Mathos. That is exactly what commies think. And fascists.

You did say "My fault I fear".

Have you farted?
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spendius
 
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Wed 16 Apr, 2008 05:46 pm
Wolf-

I'm sorry mate. It would take me six months to sort out your post and I just don't have that amount of free time.

But-

Quote:
Evolution isn't a moral code, Spendi.


is a statement that doesn't surprise me one iota. That's why I'm against teaching it to kids. I'm in favour of moral codes. As long as they work I mean.

And our Christian moral code works for me. There must be five hundred choices of alcoholic beverage in my little local pub and that is what I rate as "working". And that's a minor matter.
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spendius
 
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Wed 16 Apr, 2008 05:50 pm
Have you not reported me to the headmaster yet fm?

I have been reported to the headmaster before.

Thankfully headmasters are carefully chosen where I live.
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spendius
 
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Wed 16 Apr, 2008 05:54 pm
There's nothing to beat a bunch of knowalls who think they can run Western society for absurdity.
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Diest TKO
 
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Wed 16 Apr, 2008 11:57 pm
Related thread on Ben Stien's new movie.

http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=115248

T
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Mathos
 
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Thu 17 Apr, 2008 05:53 am
Oh Dear, just popped in out of the cold for a little lunch and see you have been getting your knickers in a twist again! You need to change the tune I be thinking!


spendius
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:11 pm Post subject:

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Mathos-

It is cheating to misquote people.

I said it was a tentative opinion.

Why did you miss that out?

I could say-

Mathos said- "My fault I fear" if that sort of chopping up is acceptable.

Do you not allow that using slimey editing grants permission for others to do the same or is your slimey editing the only editing that is allowed.

You're a bloody commie Mathos. That is exactly what commies think. And fascists.

You did say "My fault I fear".

Have you farted?



{PS Spendi does slimy really have an 'e' in it?}


GEORGE W BUSH to the Pope: "Since becoming President I have prayed everyday."

TV Wit Jay Leno:- Since George Bush became President we've all prayed every day."




Now Spendi, the soubriquet you proudly support would never lend it's origins to this form of contrary nonsense you are dribbling all over the pages of A2K.

Do we assume you are free from mental disorder?

Be thankful you be a fool in England, can you imagine what the Canadians for instance might well do with you, should you be resident there?

Well I don't suppose you will be flying or sailing across the pond to find out, will you?
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wandeljw
 
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Thu 17 Apr, 2008 08:51 am
Quote:
Florida can't evolve at war with science
(BY FRED GRIMM, Miami Herald, April 17, 2008)

Five years ago, the Florida Legislature was duped into putting up $310 million to lure the Scripps Research Institute to Palm Beach County.

Our cracker politicians were misled by promises that Scripps' biomedical research would be just the ticket to keep Florida from devolving into a low-skilled, low-tech, low-paid, know-nothing backwater.

Can't blame 'em. Jeb Bush himself was ballyhooing the deal. ''A defining moment in Florida's future,'' the governor said.

Nobody explained to our hoodwinked legislators that those Scripps fellows were nothing but a bunch of damn evolutionists.

That stuff those scientists do: tearing apart molecules, studying cellular biology and immunology and neurosciences and chemistry, hunting down cures for cardiovascular and autoimmune diseases -- all of that's based on godless evolution.

If only our brave Bible-thumping legislators had known this back in 2004, they could have put the fear of God into those Darwinian lab rats. They would have warned 'em: Either do your so-called biomedical research by giving equal time to the seven-day creation theory, the 7,000-year-old earth theory and intelligent design or take your (monkey) tails straight back to Cow-Lie-Forn-Ya.

Of course, scientists at Scripps might be thinking, ``Hey, wait just a minute. We're the ones who were duped.''

Sir Harold Kroto, Britain's 1996 Nobel laureate for chemistry and a professor at Florida State University, said the scientific community has been taken aback by Florida's retro-war on evolution. ``We thought this was just something that happened in Kansas. Or maybe Texas.''

''If this had blown up four years ago, there certainly would have been discussions about whether Florida was the right place for Scripps,'' said Kroto, who happens to be on the Scripps board of governors.

Kroto has watched (''It's quite unbelievable'') as bills designed to counter the state board of education's decision in February to include evolution in the curriculum wend through both the House and Senate.

The bill guarantees teachers the right to offer a ''full range of views on biological and chemical evolution.'' Except, Kroto noted, Darwin's theory happens to be the only view that has withstood rigorous scientific scrutiny.

Kroto has been elected into the National Academy of Science, an outfit that has embraced evolution as key component in the study of biology, physics, geology, astronomy, paleontology, chemistry. And on and on. ''You'd think that the Academy would be the first stop political leaders would make when it comes to science education,'' he said.

Not in Florida. Our legislators seem poised to downgrade evolution to the equivalent of religious dogma.

''If I was a young scientist asked to come to work at Scripps in Florida, I'd think very carefully whether I'd want my children to go to school here,'' Kroto said Wednesday.

No doubt, our sanctified lawmakers wouldn't want those unholy Darwinians here anyway.

Sir Harold suggested a nice compromise. Legislators and others who object to teaching evolution in Florida's classrooms should refuse medical treatments derived from research guided by Darwin's black art.

That ought to thin the ranks of the true believers. And allow science teachers to get on with teaching Florida kids some actual science.
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wandeljw
 
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Thu 17 Apr, 2008 10:04 am
FLORIDA UPDATE (Breaking News from Florida Senate)

Quote:
Throwing fuel on the fire
(Jeffrey S. Solochek, St. Petersburg Times Education Blog, April 17, 2008)

As if the issue of evolution hasn't been controversial enough in Florida, two state senators have moved to fan the flames by proposing a sex ed amendment to the "academic freedom" bill that's scheduled for second reading on the Senate floor today.

Riffing off the question of why some lawmakers have singled out evolution for special treatment in law, senators Ted Deutch and Nan Rich have pitched the concept that teachers who instruct the equally contentious subject of sex education might deserve similar protection as those who raise questions about the origin of species.

Their amendment states, in part:
A public school teacher in the state's K-12 school system may not be disciplined, denied tenure, terminated, or otherwise discriminated against for objectively presenting scientific information relevant to the full range of scientific views regarding biological or chemical evolution and comprehensive sexual education that is age-appropriate and factual in connection with teaching any prescribed curriculum regarding chemical or biological evolution and any prescribed abstinence-only curriculum regarding human sexuality, respectively.

Deutch's own bill requiring schools to teach medically accurate, factual and age-appropriate sex education curriculum has show no sign of life in committees. So why not try to attach the concept, which Republicans seem to dislike, onto the evolution bill that so many Democrats disdain, right? (Deutch was the lone nay vote on the evolution bill when it passed the Senate Education committee.)

The poison pill is not likely to win adoption. But it's entertaining to note.

UPDATE: The amendment failed on voice vote.
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TheCorrectResponse
 
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Thu 17 Apr, 2008 10:45 am
So when it isn't anti-science the feeling is "academic feedom my a*s" I guess. Laughing
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wandeljw
 
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Thu 17 Apr, 2008 11:08 am
I agree, TCR. Florida's Senate is hilarious. I recently saw mention in a Florida newspaper that Florida citizens gave their state legislators an approval rating of only 34%.
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real life
 
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Thu 17 Apr, 2008 11:16 am
The only poll I believe is on election day.

If Florida's senators are defeated by the same 2-1 margin, then I'll believe the poll you cited, wande.

If not, well it's just another attempt at spin. The media has become very good at creating 'news' and not so good at simply reporting it.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 17 Apr, 2008 11:20 am
wandeljw wrote:
I agree, TCR. Florida's Senate is hilarious. I recently saw mention in a Florida newspaper that Florida citizens gave their state legislators an approval rating of only 34%.


Bush's performance rating has dropped to 28 percent, but he continues to ruin this country both economically and politically.
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wandeljw
 
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Thu 17 Apr, 2008 11:22 am
There will always be media spin, RL, and things are probably not as bad as the media makes it. For me, however, this is all very entertaining.
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Thu 17 Apr, 2008 11:46 am
spendius wrote:
Wolf-

I'm sorry mate. It would take me six months to sort out your post and I just don't have that amount of free time.


No, it would take six months to decipher your posts. Mine are quite legible and understandable, but I am willing to guide you through it. What would you wish for me to explain first?

Quote:
But-

Quote:
Evolution isn't a moral code, Spendi.


is a statement that doesn't surprise me one iota. That's why I'm against teaching it to kids. I'm in favour of moral codes. As long as they work I mean.


Oh, well you had no trouble understanding that. So perhaps you're lying about not understanding my post. You choose to only understand those statements that you wish to argue against, perhaps?

Regardless, I'd like to point out that your position would mean you're against teaching children mathematics and the English language. Neither are moral codes either.

Out of interest, Mathos, what would the Canadians do with Spendius?
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spendius
 
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Thu 17 Apr, 2008 11:56 am
RL-

You have to remember that media has a vested interest in a breakdown in morality and for a number of obvious reasons.

It is also jealous of any other centres of influence.

The idea of putting sex education onto a scientific footing is laughable. One school I know of had a young lady using a banana and a milk bottle to show the kids what happened as if that is all there is to sex over 200 years after de Sade.

You're right wande--it is entertaining. You should read what some real scientists think about marriage and Valentine's Day and suchlike.
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