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Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 28 Sep, 2005 02:03 pm
"...I wouldn't call c.i. to the witness stand..." ROFLMAO
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spendius
 
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Wed 28 Sep, 2005 02:10 pm
Hey-this is good. It's off the Legal thread about putting violent dogs down.Take it away mousie

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We put dogs down and not ourselves for offences,which is something a dog can't commit,because we can do.We have dominion over the animals silly.It's in the Bible for God's sake.

That's what a religious fundamentalist would say anyway.Scientists get all confused on the issue.


Get out of that you SDers.

And I have a better one for after I've been bathed and beered.
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farmerman
 
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Wed 28 Sep, 2005 02:10 pm
spendi-speak
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My problem with SD is artistic.SD is mechanical and ID is organic.SD is about cognition and laws of causality.ID is about inner experience and emblems like the Stars and Stripes.In ID there is an evolution toward inward fulfillment whilst SD is about "progress" like the Arctic ice melting.ID reads its idea "out of nature" and SD reads it "into" nature.Teleology.And Darwinism is just a trifle too easy to understand which may explain its attractions.


Sounds almost like youre saying something.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 28 Sep, 2005 02:14 pm
"Almost" is too generous. LOL
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spendius
 
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Wed 28 Sep, 2005 02:19 pm
fm wrote,and almost bowed slightly,

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Sounds almost like youre saying something.


Now that's a compliment I really treasure.Compliments from members of the Awkward Squad are worth all the mush in the universe piled up.
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farmerman
 
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Wed 28 Sep, 2005 03:17 pm
Well spendi , at least you let us know where your latest pile'o mush will be laying, so we dont have to step in it.
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spendius
 
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Wed 28 Sep, 2005 03:21 pm
No.I'll roll it through a mill,coat it white,cut it up into little bits and draw pretty patterns on it and flog it to half baked SDers
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farmerman
 
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Wed 28 Sep, 2005 04:02 pm
are we a few pints starboard?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 28 Sep, 2005 04:06 pm
spendius is a Brit who didn't learn his manners in school. He's a first rate rabble-rouser attempting to make sense of his life by posting on a2k; a total loser.
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Milfmaster9
 
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Wed 28 Sep, 2005 04:11 pm
Could Jesus be a witness???
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 28 Sep, 2005 04:13 pm
Jesus is dead; that's what the comc book says.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 28 Sep, 2005 04:14 pm
Don't quote me, though. That's only the impression I have from personal observation.
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spendius
 
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Wed 28 Sep, 2005 05:10 pm
Right.

I know I'm a loser.I drive past graveyards.I don't pretend they aren't there.

Did you know that everything about you is dependent on the discovery of the concept of zero.
The Romans were SDers.Utility was their bag.And no zero.MXCIVIX for a tank full of gas.Had they had gas.They would never have discovered zero in the memory of man.They knew what they were talking about you see.

Zero was discovered by temple adepts intent on seeing that the Gods and Godesses,the lovely little darlings,were assuaged of their anger.IDers to the core of the marrow.Completely crackers in other words.Central locking,thermostats,digital TV,panties,flush toilets,low fat diets,holidays in exotic locations,smart bombs, etc etc all posited on a bunch of monks with a flat out ID agenda.

One would think that an intelligent person would retain a modicum of respect for ID.
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blatham
 
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Wed 28 Sep, 2005 08:08 pm
spendius wrote:
Right.

I know I'm a loser.I drive past graveyards.I don't pretend they aren't there.

Did you know that everything about you is dependent on the discovery of the concept of zero.
The Romans were SDers.Utility was their bag.And no zero.MXCIVIX for a tank full of gas.Had they had gas.They would never have discovered zero in the memory of man.They knew what they were talking about you see.

Zero was discovered by temple adepts intent on seeing that the Gods and Godesses,the lovely little darlings,were assuaged of their anger.IDers to the core of the marrow.Completely crackers in other words.Central locking,thermostats,digital TV,panties,flush toilets,low fat diets,holidays in exotic locations,smart bombs, etc etc all posited on a bunch of monks with a flat out ID agenda.

One would think that an intelligent person would retain a modicum of respect for ID.


Boneyards. Odd product for a day's work.

I wouldn't worship any god who would want me as a worshipper. Somebody has to keep up the standards around here. Now zero, as a standard, leaves everything to be desired and I don't hold with that. I am not at one with zero. Of course, anyone would be a fool not to acknowledge zero's portability. And it is pretty which any fool can see. Ever see 7 do a trick? Never. But zero is trickland central. It's where magician's rabbits come from. It's what christian healers offer. It could be what wolves howl at. I don't know. They might just howl because it is so fukkking cold. It's like below zero for them. Below zero for those bones in that boneyard too.
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InfraBlue
 
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Thu 29 Sep, 2005 12:14 am
It would seem that only from zero is absolutely everything possible. The next step from there and possibility is circumscribed.
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spendius
 
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Thu 29 Sep, 2005 03:13 am
blathers humilty inspired-
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I wouldn't worship any god who would want me as a worshipper.


She will have anybody Bernie.The worship is the thing.There's so little about these days.

"Your Daddy walks in wearing a Napoleon Boneparte mask."
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Steve 41oo
 
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Thu 29 Sep, 2005 05:46 am
just dropped in for the last couple of post, I get the feeling I've missed something.

Spendius I know you like the stream of consciousness type of post, but what if it induces the opposite?
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spendius
 
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Thu 29 Sep, 2005 06:07 am
Steve-

You could join some evening classes at the Poly or partake of more less gentle stimulations.
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spendius
 
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Thu 29 Sep, 2005 06:12 am
Steve-

Or read Finnegan's wake and some back issues of ZIT.There's no sense in moving the language on unless it is picked up on.
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wandeljw
 
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Thu 29 Sep, 2005 08:31 am
Today's issue of the York Daily Record has more about Robert Pennock's testimony in yesterday's session of Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District:
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The long-term strategy of the concept's proponents, said Robert Pennock, a Michigan State University professor of philosophy and science, is not just to get intelligent design into science class, but to change the very definition of science to include the supernatural.
Pennock said the people behind intelligent design are attacking methodological naturalism, the accepted procedures of science that limit observations and hypotheses to the natural world.
It essentially says to scientists, Pennock said, "We can't cheat."
As examples of the movement's intentions, Pennock showed the court a number of articles written by the movement's leaders, including two by William Dembski, a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute.
Discovery has been part of efforts to change wording of Kansas state education standards to be more open to the supernatural in the definition of science.
"The scientific picture of the world championed since the Enlightenment is not wrong, but massively wrong," Dembski wrote in an article titled "Building bridges between science and theology."
In another article, titled "What every theologian should know about creation, evolution and design," Dembski wrote, "In the words of Vladimir Lenin, What is to be done? Design theorists aren't at all bashful about answering this question: The ground rules of science have to be changed."
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