Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

c.i. wrote-

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Evolution is neither good or evil; it's simply nature.

And neither does it know it has a name or that any sort of process or principle is at work.

Describing that process and giving names to all its facets, which is nowhere near complete and never will be, is a human activity and stands outside of the process being described except for anti-IDers who can only be a part of it. Which I suppose explains assertiveness. Justifies it.

If understanding the process a little has any uses it is in getting salaried jobs.

The idea, say, that a species of virus is evolving to counter anti-biotics proves nothing. An IDer might say that a designer fixed its capacities to enable a created organism to survive. That type of research was in being before Darwin. Using herbs as medicines and narcotics is a case in point.

It's just trial and error keenly observed. Simple stuff. Providing all these esoteric labels to the bits doesn't alter that. It might impress the aunties but it doesn't impress me. Quite the opposite actually. I know its a snowjob to cover up the empty centre. And a status symbol to some.

The more complex the processes are discovered to be the stronger the argument for a designer.

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speni, It doesn't impress you, because your base of knowledge refuses to acknowledge the basic principles of science.

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Concerning which you have not the slightest notion c.i.

Take my word for it.

Until you realise that you never will.

You can't understand science simply because you once pondered whether to buy Scientific American at an airport bookstall.

Had you homed in on the "top shelf" you would be getting warmer.

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In that regard, you're still in the basement. At least I'm on the first floor.

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Oh I don't know about that. There's under-the-counter stuff you know.

That's the basement's basement. The first floor is a bit upwardly mobile.

They don't grunt up there.

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I don't know about "upwardly," but I'm pretty "mobile." LOL

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Will spendius disappear up hizzown ?

Will he finally bore himself into a grave?
Will spendius ever get a clue?

will the library make him leave cause hes scaring the children ?

will he begin a program of dental hygiene witn regular professional help?

Tune in tomorrow

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Awe, shucks, I was looking forward to the "Shadow."

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fm wrote-

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will the library make him leave cause hes scaring the children ?

My librarian spent half-an-hour the other day looking for a more accurate word than "dipthong" for when two letters are run together as in "oestrus". We both thought there was another word but we couldn't find it which is why I used "dipthong" in that post regarding that process.
I still think there is another word, possibly one printers use. Dipthong is when two vowel sounds are pronounced as one like in "sounds" but is it when they are printed overlapping. Does anyone know?

Which reminds me. There was no comment on that post. Just more bullshit as in fm's last post.

I have a nice post for later. It's only rough notes as yet. Maybe tonight.

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I have a nice post for later. It's only rough notes as yet. Maybe tonight.

WOW, you make rough drafts of your posts? then how come their not better ?

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Well fm- it does compliment the viewers when one puts a little effort into one's posts.

Blurting out the first thing that comes into your head is a trifle patronising don't you think. And the absence of erudition and effort sure does show.

Hey fm- you would be well advised when out hunting to have someone carry your loaded shotgun and hand it to you when it's obvious which way to point it.

You are in a phase where you are denigrating all that is useful in education.

My posts are not better because I haven't the time to make them so. If I had the time they would be. I do my best. Which you don't. Or at least I hope not.

I've been revising the post I mentioned earlier and it isn't quite to my liking yet. It is keeping it short that is the problem. I know viewers easily get bored reading about the literary efforts of the Marquis de Sade.

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spendi: And the absence of erudition and effort sure does show.

This from the king of confused metaphors. ROTFLMAO

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Thank you c.i. I like mixed metaphors. If you concentrate too hard on avoiding mixed metaphors you forget what you are on about.

There is a little more to metaphor than is immediately apparent as fresco might explain. He's a bit of an expert on such things.

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spendi, There's a world of difference between "mixed" and "confused."

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In that case show me an example of a confused one in my prose or viewers will think you make up any old damn thing on the spur of the moment as your hero recommends.

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VATICAN UPDATE

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Pope Benedict admits evidence for evolution
(By Philip Pullella, Reuters, July 25, 2007)

POPE Benedict has said there is substantial scientific proof of the theory of evolution.

The Pope, speaking as he was concluding his holiday in northern Italy, also said the human race must listen to "the voice of the Earth" or risk destroying its very existence.

In a talk with 400 priests, the Pope spoke of the current debate raging in some countries, particularly the US and his native Germany, between creationism and evolution.

"They are presented as alternatives that exclude each other," the Pope said.

"This clash is an absurdity because on one hand there is much scientific proof in favour of evolution, which appears as a reality that we must see and which enriches our understanding of life and being as such."

But he said evolution did not answer all the questions and could not exclude a role by God.

"Above all it does not answer the great philosophical question 'where does everything come from?'"

His comments appear to be an endorsement of the doctrine of intelligent design.

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The Pope said-

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This clash is an absurdity

As was said on this thread two years ago.

And where have the anti-IDers gone now that the only subject of importance has been brought into the forefront.

That subject, the control of lust and reproduction, has been at the forefront of my mind not only since this thread began but for many a long year before that. The anti-IDers don't want to discuss it. I don't suppose one can blame them because they haven't a leg to stand on when it is treated as the only subject of importance and their Christian upbringing has left them with a delicate reticence which my Footballer's Wives posts, and other things, were intended to reduce.

That's why the Dover business was a scam. The plaintiffs would have fainted clean away had the implications of their position been explained to them and the likes of Dr Behe couldn't possibly have managed that for very personal reasons.

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For f@ck's sake spendius. Post some E V I D E N C E. Either that, or jam your head back up your arse and stop blowing smoke up everyone else's.

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You must be blind Wilso or very unobservant or very stupid none of which are satisfactory reasons for you to write in that manner.

What is the atheist's solution to the lust and reproduction problem? Vouchers I suppose. Planning permissions maybe. Asserting that they are not problems is like sticking your head where you suggest I stick mine and fitting earplugs. Nobody can reasonably expect an answer from someone in such a condition and the evidence for that being the case is that we won't be getting one.

Why don't you have a little study at Germaine Greer's 40 year old book? She was an Australian after all before she dumped on you lot. She's the only Australian bloke I've ever come across.

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What is the atheist's solution to the lust and reproduction problem? Vouchers I suppose

Spendis been sniffing the banana oil again.

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