fm wrote-
Quote:So, I guess its ok to be a liar in the cause of the Lord.
The Grand Materialist Niccolo Machiavelli thought so and I do believe there are people who say the American Government do also. He claimed that the end justifies the means just as my property developer and my stone merchant would.
He meant that it is sometimes necessary for a ruler to do things that are not right in themselves but which may be considered right in the context of the prevention of greater evils.
It is said that Bob Dylan's Drifter's Escape is about the same thing.
Having said that I still do not know what it is that I have done wrong to cause your slanderous remark. Perhaps you might explain so that viewers may come to some other conclusion than that you are ungentlemanly.
One certainly sees plenty of evidence that the sins you list are thriving in American society.
Market economics, the hidden hand, is a pretty rigid system, scientific some say, but nobody dares apply it without mitigation. Religion mitigates materialism in the same way. In fact it is religion which mitigates the application of market economics.
ros wrote-
Quote:Spendi's not a creationist, he's just a troll.
Do you like being laughed at ros. Define troll for us and then we can see if I fit.
I'm a "silly man", I'm "irrelevant", I'm a "liar" and I'm a "troll" all within 24 hours and all by anti-IDers. A pattern is on the point of emerging into the clear light. One hopes such a pattern is kept well away from the levers of power. With anti-IDers comprising 3% (I read on here- I thought it was 10%) they are a long way from power and may justly be said to be irrelevant.
I have still seen no answer to the muzzling question and I didn't raise it.
Asking questions of people and then refusing to answer them oneself is somewhat silly and lies can be perpetrated by default.
Quote:Perhaps you've heard the "Tornado in a junkyard forming an airplane by chance" analogy as applied to evolution?
It isn't even an analogy. There's no organic life in the "ideal type" junkyard. There's an organic junkyard in the mind of anyone who considers such a comparison to have the slightest validity.
Quote:The mere fact that creationists (YEC's) actually use that example in their challenges to evolution demonstrates that they do not understand what they are challenging.
What has that got to do with Foxy and myself? Neither of us have ever made such a claim. As we two are the only ones on here the statements about the junkyard are definitely silly, a type of lie, irrelevant and, as far as I understrand the word "troll", troll-like.
You are bringing to the table ros the same standards you were bringing two years ago. They look to me to be identical with the standards you left school with.
Can you assure us that your anti- religious position is based on intellectual considerations rather than on some personal circumstances.
Quote:To be fair, I don't remember whether you've demonstrated any level of detailed understanding of the fundamentals of evolutionary theory previously in this thread or not.
I know you haven't ros. Not a glimmer.