Lola wrote-
Quote:Science is, after all, in direct conflict with fundmentalist religions.
We are not discussing fundamentalist religions Lola. We are discussing Intelligent Design or, as I prefer, intelligent design. That idea, and it is an idea, is in direct conflict with fundamentalist religions of all types.
As I understand it there is a confusion over there which thinks that intelligent design has something to do with fundamentalist religions.
Quote:Science is a way of thinking that requires doubt.
That is the problem when it tries to get involved in social affairs. Doubt produces uncertainty and ultimately catatonia if everybody is imbued with its principles rather that a chosen few. Presumably that is why it only ever is allowed an advisory role to Governments.
Quote:the fact that the Catholic church has taken so many centuries to live with it bears witness to how threatening doubt is to those whose security depends on absolute belief.
What about the security of society? What security could we expect with a society of doubters and non-believers?
I'm afraid that the "voice of God" is a subject on which a number of threads may well prosper.
But it makes a pleasant change, I must say to consider, your posts, Lola, after some of the mush I've been putting up with.
It is always a balancing act. How to get the best out of us without unleashing our true nature in blowtorch mode.
And we run the world.
Had The Church been fully in charge, authority and all, which is necessary to avoid the blowtorch, we might not have allowed the "Now" men to export our technologies so easily. We might have been more patient (slow). The Church has engaged in such restrictions in the past and the Chinese loss of the monopoly of silk production through carelessness in that regard was a severe blow to them and if they could have caught the Faustian rascal who did it he would have come to a very sticky end.
I think our system works quite well and I'm not up for shooting off in the dark blowtorches blasting.
I hardly think that embracing a faith is narcissistic. It seems quite the opposite to me.