rosborne979 wrote:JLNobody wrote:Timber, it does seem that the fundamentalists want us to be "reasonable." To look at both sides of "the question" (consider Bush's position). In so doing they would elevate the status of their "theory" and render the scientific perspective no better than a speculation.
That being the case, does the fact that we "discuss" these things at all give credence to their ideas?
I wonder how much of the current creation/evolution activity was born of various debates on the internet. There does seem to have been an upswing in these things over the last five or ten years.
After all, if we get such entertainment from discussing these things that we generate giant threads, then you would expect other media sources to exploit it at some point.
Wouldn't it be funny if our vocal resistance to the idea of ID and Creationism has in some way led to its general visibility.
The history of this from what i can glean on the net is that there has been a concerted program of disinformation, first launched by the Dicsovery Institute quite a while ago, with the intention of placing the ID argument on web pages with high page ranks--that is bulletin boards and other forms of discussion group. We had a prime example here two or three years ago when one of the Creationist BS artists showed up and posted a huge list of links to Creationist/ID web sites (most of which got pulled by the Mods). At one point, he even threatened FM with a law suit--to which FM replied: "Bring it on." It would appear that, to date, he hasn't taken FM up on the offer. He went right ahead posting because he doesn't give a damn about us, and any refutation we might offer--his goal is to get his BS on a site with a high page rank, and the tactic relies upon a lack of discernment on the part of the general reader.
The same tactic can be seen with "real life" in the "Evolution-How" thread. He brings up the same Creationist canards again and again, as if they haven't been picked apart already, because he has good reason to believe that most visiotrs don't read more than five hundred pages of a thread, and probably don't scroll back more than a few pages at most. That is why it becomes important not only to shoot him down, but to mention that he's been shot down on the same horsie poop time and again, and that he refuses to provide evidence for the Creationist view. This site has a relatively high page rank, and it's going to attract these types continually for that reason. They will rely upon the "last man standing" tactic and repeat their nonsense
ad nauseum. All the more reason for some one of us to dispute them every time.
