Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

Second, I hypothetically posited a possible origin for God using the same logic as science has for abiogenesis of a self replicating molecule. No one was able to fault that as an hypothesis. Of course both have the same level of direct evidence - zero.

Where is your evidence of this God you speak of?

That said, a TED talk isn't exactly conducive to indepth analysis or explanation

Something as simple as a circle of stones with ashes in the middle is readily accepted as evidence of an ancient civilization using fire by archeologists.

Youve defaulted to something based on your wish to feel comfy in your myths. You are scared shitless to have them in disarray.

I was kind of blown away by the findings in physics and biology that made me question that guess.

It is therefore important to analyse how the application of complexity theory can affect the study of biological systems, in the realm of molecular biology, too. This discussion is mainly concerned with the implications that these notions have for reductionism and determinism....

An increasing number of scientists argue that the reductionist approach can no longer cope with both the enormous amount of information that comes from the so-called ‘-omics' sciences and technologies—genomics, proteomics, metabolomics and so on—and the astonishing complexity that they reveal.

As I have explained, my understanding of ID theory is not about God per se but just whether life could arise by purely natural causes as defined by science.

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As I have explained, my understanding of ID theory is not about God per se but just whether life could arise by purely natural causes as defined by science.

Ok.. so you are saying your "designer" isn't alive then? Your designer is what, an intelligent rock? (Let's see you deny that your designer is not alive and not supernatural.)

Nothing like accusing your opponent of the very thing you are guilty of, eh?

I once cited Farmer to an insightful, well-written article written by a distinguished micro-biologist at the University of Chicago.

Go mpeddle your crap elsewhere Lamont. You obviously do not even understand what you are quoting. Why do you even believe Kimura?

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"As I have explained, my understanding of ID theory is not about God per se but just whether life could arise by purely natural causes as defined by science."


Ok.. so you are saying your "designer" isn't alive then? Your designer is what, an intelligent rock? (Let's see you deny that your designer is not alive and not supernatural.)

Blogs r blogs, even scientists thusly exercising their egos can be "well written, well reasoned, and dead wrong" (Menken)

I don't pretend to be no expert critic of literary talent, but it don't take that to know Shapiro writes better than you do, so...who to believe here, eh? Him, or you?

Tough one, sho nuff.

A complex adaptive system is a "complex macroscopic collection" of relatively "similar and partially connected micro-structures" formed in order to adapt to the changing environment and increase its survivability as a macro-structure.

They are complex in that they are dynamic networks of interactions, and their relationships are not aggregations of the individual static entities. They are adaptive in that the individual and collective behavior mutate and self-organize corresponding to the change-initiating micro-event or collection of events.

Typical examples of complex adaptive systems include:... social insect (e.g. ant) colonies; the biosphere and the ecosystem; the brain and the immune system; [and] the cell and the developing embryo;...

The fields of CAS and artificial life are closely related. In both areas the principles of emergence and self-organization are very important. The ideas and models of CAS are essentially evolutionary, grounded in modern chemistry, biological views on adaptation, exaptation and evolution and simulation models in economics and social systems

The study of CAS focuses on complex, emergent and macroscopic properties of the system. What distinguishes a CAS from a pure multi-agent system (MAS) is the focus on top-level properties and features like self-similarity, complexity, emergence and self-organization....A CAS is a complex, self-similar collectivity of interacting adaptive agents. Complex Adaptive Systems are characterised by a high degree of adaptive capacity, giving them resilience in the face of perturbation.

Other important properties are adaptation (or homeostasis), communication, cooperation, specialization, spatial and temporal organization, and reproduction. They can be found on all levels: cells specialize, adapt and reproduce themselves just like larger organisms do. Communication and cooperation take place on all levels, from the agent to the system level.

Living organisms are complex adaptive systems. Although complexity is hard to quantify in biology, evolution has produced some remarkably complex organisms.[20] This observation has led to the common misconception of evolution being progressive and leading towards what are viewed as "higher organisms"....

Simple life remains dominant on Earth, and complex life appears more diverse only because of sampling bias. This lack of an overall trend towards complexity in biology does not preclude the existence of forces driving systems towards complexity in a subset of cases. These minor trends are balanced by other evolutionary pressures that drive systems towards less complex states.

Eugenie Scott says biology needs "complexity theory." In order to make the transition to the new emphasis more palatable for fundy darwinians, she is willing to call this shift part of an "extended synthesis," so they won't feel completely useless.