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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 08:19 am
"I LOVE Canada: It's so clean!" Visiting Americans may be about to lose their favorite cliché about their chilly neighbor. Over the past few weeks, a judicial inquiry in Montreal has heard charges that Canada's governing Liberal Party was running a system of extortion, embezzlement, kickbacks and graft as dirty as anything Americans might expect to find in your run-of-the-mill banana republic.

Just last week, for example, Canadians learned that one of the closest friends of former Prime Minister Jean Chrétien was paid more than $5 million for work that was never done and on the authority of invoices that were forged or faked. It is charged that this same friend then arranged for up to $1 million to be kicked back in campaign contributions to Mr. Chrétien's Liberal party.

Corruption charges have dogged the Chrétien Liberals for years. Mr. Chrétien left office in 2003 under suspicion that he had pressured a government-owned bank to lend money to businesses in which he held an interest. But until recently, nobody was able to prove anything worse than carelessness and waste. Now, though, the improper flood of money from the public treasury is being connected to a reciprocal flow of money to the Liberal Party and favored insiders, including Mr. Chrétien's brother.

And because Mr. Chrétien's successor, Paul Martin, failed to win a parliamentary majority in last year's federal election, Mr. Chrétien's old survival strategy of denial and delay no longer works. Together, the opposition Conservative and Bloc Québécois parties could force an election call at any time. Opinion polls suggest that if an election were held now, the Liberals would lose decisively.

The discrediting and defeat of Canada's Liberal government would constitute a grand event in Canadian history: after all, the Liberals have ruled Canada almost without challenge for the past 12 years and for almost 80 of the past 109 years. But the kickback scandal could reverberate outside Canada's borders too.

Many Americans see Canada as a kind of utopian alternative to the United States: a North American democracy with socialized medicine, same-sex marriage, empty prisons, strict gun laws and no troops in Iraq.

What they don't see is how precarious political support for this alternative utopia has become among Canadian voters in recent years. From World War II until the 1980's, Liberal power rested on two political facts: its dominance in French-speaking Quebec and its popularity in the immigrant communities of urban Ontario.

Over the past two decades, however, the Liberals' Quebec-plus-the-cities strategy has worked less and less well.

As French-speaking Quebecers have become more self-confidently nationalistic, they have turned their backs on the intensifying centralism and paternalism of the Liberals. Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau rewrote the Canadian Constitution in the early 80's over the objections of the Quebec government of the day. In none of the six federal elections since have the Liberals won even half of Quebec's seats in Parliament.

Luckily for the Liberals, the Conservative Party split into warring factions in 1993. Consequently, the Liberals were able to return to power that year even though they won only 37 percent of the vote.

Almost everything that Jean Chrétien did as prime minister over the next decade can be understood as an effort to reverse his party's long-term problems. He edged to the right on economic issues in the hope of appealing to middle-income voters alienated by Mr. Trudeau's economic mismanagement. He veered leftward on social issues in the hope of finding a new constituency among wealthier Ontarians and Quebecers. After 9/11, he struck anti-American and anti-Israel attitudes that he hoped would resonate in isolationist Quebec and among certain immigrant communities.

And it was presumably for these same reasons that Mr. Chrétien set in motion his kickback scheme. As Liberal strength in Quebec has decayed, the Liberals have found it more and more difficult to hold together an effective political organization in the province. How do you sustain a political party without principles or vision? Sometimes you do it with graft.

So in 1995 a multimillion-dollar emergency national unity fund was established. The fund was justified as a way to win Quebecers away from separatism by sponsoring sporting events and cultural projects across the province. The fund failed in its ostensible purpose. But what the scheme did do was create a huge unmonitored slush fund from which key political figures in the province could be rewarded. A large portion of those rewards, the judicial inquiry in Montreal is being told, were then kicked back as campaign contributions to the Liberal Party and as payments to Liberal insiders.

Some Liberals defend the scheme as a noble plan gone wrong, an attempt to beat back separatism that was unfortunately corrupted by a few bad apples. But when so many apples go bad, you have to suspect that the barrel is rotten.

Unlike their supposed analogues, the Democrats in the United States or Great Britain's Labor Party, Canada's Liberals are not a party built around certain policies and principles. They are instead what political scientists call a brokerage party, similar to the old Italian Christian Democrats or India's Congress Party: a political entity without fixed principles or policies that exploits the power of the central state to bribe or bully incompatible constituencies to join together to share the spoils of government.

As countries modernize, they tend to leave brokerage parties behind. Very belatedly, that moment of maturity may now be arriving in Canada. Americans may lose their illusions about my native country; Canadians will gain true multiparty democracy and accountability in government. It's an exchange that is long past due.

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candidone1
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 08:43 am
McGentrix wrote:
Unlike their supposed analogues, the Democrats in the United States or Great Britain's Labor Party, Canada's Liberals are not a party built around certain policies and principles. They are instead what political scientists call a brokerage party, similar to the old Italian Christian Democrats or India's Congress Party: a political entity without fixed principles or policies that exploits the power of the central state to bribe or bully incompatible constituencies to join together to share the spoils of government.


This has traditionally been the thorn in the side of the progressive conservative party. Until they have been faced with the Liberals sticking their own feet up their own asses, they needed to develop fixed principles and policies to combat the preferential treatment the liberals have had for the past decade or so.
They have normally stood for nothing and offered nothing more than a moral alternative...offering nothing with respect to foreign policy, economics, environment etc.
The political landscape is changing as the conservatives rebuild and redefine--and I think that is promising. Even as a liberal, I find this growth refreshing and it will revitalize all competing parties...regardless of the Prime-Ministerial outcome.
Libs will clean house and get the old cronies out, and the cons will come to stand for something more to Canadians than a party against gay marriage, against decriminalization of marijuana and against the gun registry.
It's not as grim as you may think McG, or as the author of the article paints it...
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 08:49 am
Not content to spend all his free time lambasting Liberals in his own country at the slightest opportunity, McGentrix casts his steely eye and resolute determination North....
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panzade
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 08:58 am
Living scarcely an hour away from the border, McG is probably casting a wary eye on events there.

A sidelight. In my many stays in Vancouver I've seen the seamy side of Canadian politics including the arrest of a Martin assistant for selling bulk quantities of pot. Americans should remove their rose colored glasses for Canada has its own agenda of problems.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 09:00 am
Prime Minster Martin responds here

Indeed, Canada is going through some times right now, but we have survived many adversities in the past and we will survive in the future.

Are you pointing these things out as a public service, or are you just trying to take away from the woes of the U.S.? Not critisizing, just asking ;-)
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 09:01 am
McG and I have a fun war going...I attack the US and he sets to my country.

Frum is simply not to be trusted. He's an ideologue and propagandist neoconservative who chums about the Bush crowd and co-authored a book with Richard Perle.

So, quite aside from his perception of the world, what went on with the Liberal party as regards this 'scandal' is disgusting. True, it pales in contrast to the pork and corruption under the previous conservative government of Mulroney, but that is not to forgive it.

My prayer would be that anyone responsible (for illegal acts driven by greed or perceived advantage) end up appropriately jailed or fined, and that rules and investigative means be put in place to prevent so much as possible crap like this from happening.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 09:01 am
Maybe America should just clean it's own house before worrying about everyone elses. When did we become the Merry Maids of the world and when do we get to stop?
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 09:03 am
Intrepid wrote:
Prime Minster Martin responds here

Indeed, Canada is going through some times right now, but we have survived many adversities in the past and we will survive in the future.

Are you pointing these things out as a public service, or are you just trying to take away from the woes of the U.S.? Not critisizing, just asking ;-)


rhetorical question? Laughing
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 09:09 am
blueveinedthrobber wrote:
Maybe America should just clean it's own house before worrying about everyone elses. When did we become the Merry Maids of the world and when do we get to stop?


Hmm .... If we applied that rule uniformly to all countries, half the posters couldn't contribute in the Politics forum. We wouldn't get to hear Bernie's frequent criticisms, among others.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 09:28 am
Intrepid wrote:
Prime Minster Martin responds here

Indeed, Canada is going through some times right now, but we have survived many adversities in the past and we will survive in the future.

Are you pointing these things out as a public service, or are you just trying to take away from the woes of the U.S.? Not critisizing, just asking ;-)


It gets boring discussing the same arguements every day. Sometimes an injection of new topics is neccessary to stimulate conversation. Canada is barely a day trip from here and I visit it often. I find the events in Canda fascinating and whenever I can find an article such as this to jab at Blatham with I post it.

The US hardly has a monopoly on political problems.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 09:31 am
I like Canadia a good deal, and have spent considerable time there over the last five years. I have also studied their history in detail (anyone surprised?). My opinion is that Canajun governments are and always have been plutocratic as hell, and the chicanery of governments there, Federal and Provincial, as well as the incidence of casual theft in office and cronyism with capitalist interests makes the U.S. Congress and the Presidency look like amateurs.

If only you jokers would elect an NDP government at the Federal level--then the fun could really begin.
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candidone1
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 09:35 am
blatham wrote:
McG and I have a fun war going...I attack the US and he sets to my country.

Frum is simply not to be trusted. He's an ideologue and propagandist neoconservative who chums about the Bush crowd and co-authored a book with Richard Perle.

So, quite aside from his perception of the world, what went on with the Liberal party as regards this 'scandal' is disgusting. True, it pales in contrast to the pork and corruption under the previous conservative government of Mulroney, but that is not to forgive it.

My prayer would be that anyone responsible (for illegal acts driven by greed or perceived advantage) end up appropriately jailed or fined, and that rules and investigative means be put in place to prevent so much as possible crap like this from happening.


Blatham...any links or books you can suggest for me to read into this a bit more. I'm too young to have remembered him.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 09:37 am
Oh my god, they've cut down entire forests for The Globe and Mail's Sunday edition exposés and book reviews. It's been quite entertaining.
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au1929
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 09:38 am
I guess there isn't much difference on either side of the border. :wink:
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 09:39 am
I actually think Canajun governments have been more venal, which is not patriotic carping--i'm a little disappointed that American politicos are so ham-handed about it. Those Liberals and Tories put our boys to shame.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 10:07 am
LOL...more cause to be proud of the homeland.

candidone...possibly Stevie Cameron's On The Take, but I haven't read it.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 10:17 am
Quote:
.... The US hardly has a monopoly on political problems

Laughing just ask Jacques Chiraq - or The President of Togo Laughing
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 10:47 am
psst, The Globe and Mail doesn't publish on Sundays. God-fearing Conservatives, doncha know.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 10:48 am
Sorry, the girl is right--that's the big Saturday paper i always waste a couple of toonies on . . .
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2005 10:51 am
Ticomaya wrote:
blueveinedthrobber wrote:
Maybe America should just clean it's own house before worrying about everyone elses. When did we become the Merry Maids of the world and when do we get to stop?


Hmm .... If we applied that rule uniformly to all countries, half the posters couldn't contribute in the Politics forum. We wouldn't get to hear Bernie's frequent criticisms, among others.


not true there is a difference between listening, being informed, and sticking our noses into other sovereign governments business. And I[m not trying to pick a fight, I was just making the mostly joking point that this post wouldn't have been made if it was Conservative Canadian politicians up to no good. face that fact .
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