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Help! Need an original source from the Punic Wars.

 
 
jamesk
 
Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2005 01:46 pm
I'm doing an annotated bibliography for my HIS Western Civ class. My topic is the Punic Wars. I need an original print source. For example: A book by Aristotle is an original source on Aristotle, A newspaper article written during the U.S. Civil War is an original source on that time period.
Does anyone know of an original source I can use for the Punic Wars? Is there someone who wrote about the Punic Wars during that time period, if so, would you know the book?
Thanks
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jamesk
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2005 04:55 pm
I also need the following: one scholarly journal article, two magazines or other articles. I found some articles at my library using the EBSCO database search. Does anyone know of any scholarly journals and magazines that can be found online that pertain to (ancient) history, that have had an issue to do with the Punic Wars?

Thank you so much, James.
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Adrian
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2005 06:40 pm
There were three Punic wars. There aren't really any good sources for the first one. A Roman historian named Polybius wrote accounts of the second and third. He does write briefly of the first but only as a prologue to the second. There was a Carthaginian historian named Philinus that wrote during the time of the first but his works have been lost.

Welcome to A2K, I hope that helps some.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2005 06:55 pm
Polybius was Greek, but he is for that very reason one of the best sources. When you read Titus Livius, who was writing for a Roman audience, there is much of Rome you must know to undertand of what he writes. Polybius, however, was concerned to make the Greeks of the Amphyctionic League and of the Achaean League (of which latter Polybius and his father were high ranking officials) understand their new masters, the Romans. The Romans subjugated the Macedonians at the same time as the third Punic War saw the destruction of Carthage. Greece had almost lapsed back into barbarism, and Polybius and his father recommended that the Greeks save themselves by allying themselves with Rome in the final struggle with Macedon, knowing full well it would mean Roman hegemony and eventual Roman rule. Both the provinces of Africa (portions of modern Tunisia and Lybia) and of Macedonia (much larger than the current Macedonian state) were added to the empire in 146 B.C.

Polybius explains many things for the Greeks which a Roman author would not think of mentioning. If you have the time, it is well worth the entire History of Polybius, because of the in-depth description of the organization of Roman society. Polybius was born c. 200 BCE, and was therefore contemporary with the invasion of Italy by Hannibal Barca during the second Punic War. He died about a generation after the conclusion of the third Punic war, and is therefore the most complete contemporary account you will easily be able to find. Any reputable, large library should have or be able to quickly acquire a copy of Polybius.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2005 06:59 pm
Xenophon ---The March Up Country.

It reads well if you can get past the names.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2005 07:00 pm
The Anabasis of Xenophon took place about two centuries before the Punic Wars. Good book, though.
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Adrian
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2005 07:03 pm
Quote:
Polybius was Greek


<forehead slap>

I knew that too...

<mutter mutter>
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2005 07:05 pm
But, but...

Back to book.... grumble... I thought it was part of the Punic Wars. How quickly one can forget...

Anyway, going to check dates...

<grimace>


<broil>


<squinches sphincter>
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jamesk
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2005 07:07 pm
Thanks alot for all the replies! This forum is very helpful.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2005 07:12 pm
Xenophon and his Greek companions found themselves unemployed after the end of the second Peloponnesian War. The expedition of mercenaries left for Asia Minor in 401 BCE. The first Punic war began c. 260 BCE. Xenophon was very interesting though. He was a contemporary of Socrates, and therefore a refreshing source other than the pedantic and manipulative Plato. He wrote a great many books, almost all of which have come down to us.

By the way, the Anabasis of Xenophon (as you correctly identify it, "the march up country") should not be mistaken for the Anabasis of Arrian, who was writing a history of the campaigns of Alexander III of Macedon.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2005 07:24 pm
It is tragic. I have switched the Peloponnesian War for the Punic...

<goes to sit in unscholarly corner>

<bristles at dunce hat>
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2005 07:42 pm
Your hair looks fine the way it is, and anyway, i'm opposed to hats on principle.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2005 08:04 pm
<whew>

In an unrelated matter, appreciative for Setanta and his mammoth brain.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2005 08:06 pm
Owwww . . . it hurts, it hurts . . .
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2005 08:09 pm
You must have to wheel that epic cranium around in a wheelbarrow.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2005 08:10 pm
What am i doing in this hand car, and why is it so hot in here . . . just where in the . . .
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Adrian
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2005 08:14 pm
Yep, good to see that big brain of yours back in the forum boss.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2005 08:15 pm
Thank you for your kind remark, Boss, i appreciate the courtesy . . .
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jamesk
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2005 10:44 am
Finished and handed in my work, thank you.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 21 Apr, 2005 02:19 pm
I hope that you will have done well. Let us know.
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