NoNe wrote: People, we do not need a lot. 10 main rules of life in Bible. Just read them and live(Try to live) according to them. and That's it, life is fine.
NoNe, Have you got a verse reference for those ten main rules of life?
mesquite
Didn't you go to Vacation Bible School?
Ten....basic rules....for life....
Don't be shy lash. Help me out.
1. And God spake all these words, saying
2. I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
5. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6. And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
7. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
8. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10. But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11. For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
12. Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.
13. Thou shalt not kill.
14. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15. Thou shall not steal.
16. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
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I did think the coveting of the ass was covered in line 14... They likely needed that one spelled out twice.
Sorta interesting that The Decalogue - or The Ten Commandments, as they commonly are termed - echoes the affirmations of the
125th Chapter of The Book of Coming [or Going] Forth By Day - more commonly known as
Egyptian Book of The Dead. While the earliest translation of the Egyptian sacred text is from an original which dates to around 1240BCE, the liturgy and ritual were by that time already ancient traditions within the Egyptian culture.
Quote:I. (1) THE FOLLOWING SHALL BE SAID BY A MAN WHEN HE COMETH UNTO THE HALL OF DOUBLE RIGHT AND TRUTH, WHEREIN HE IS PURGED (2) OF ALL THE SINS WHICH HE HATH DONE, AND WHEREIN HE SEETH THE FACES OF ALL THE GODS: Hail to thee, great god, the lord of Right and Truth! I have come unto thee, O my lord, (3) and I have drawn nigh that I may look upon thy beauties. I know thee, and I know the names of the forty-two gods who dwell with thee in this (4) Hall of Double Right and Truth, and that they may set the sinners in the gives, who live and who feed upon their blood on the day (5) when the natures of men are accounted before Un-neferu.
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In very truth 'Rekhti-merti-f-ent-Maat' is thy name. Verily (6) I have come unto thee, and I bring before thee Right and Truth. For thy sake I have rejected wickedness. I have done no hurt unto man, nor have I wrought harm unto beasts. I have committed no crime (7) in the place of Right and Truth. I have had no knowledge of evil; nor have I acted (8) wickedly. Each day have I laboured more than was required of me. (9) My name hath not come forth to the boat of the Prince. I have not despised God. (10) I have not caused misery; nor have I worked affliction. I have done not (11) that which God doth abominate. I have caused no wrong to be done to the servant by his master. I have (12) caused none to feel pain. I have made [no man] to weep. (13) I have not committed murder; nor have I ever bidden any man "to slay on my behalf. I have not wronged the people. I have not filched that which hath been offered in (14) the temples; nor have I purloined the cakes of the gods. I have not carried away the (15) offerings made unto the blessed dead. I have not committed fornication, nor have I defiled my body. (16) I have not added unto nor have I minished the offerings which are due. I have not stolen from the orchards; nor have I trampled down the fields. I have not added to the weight of the balance; (17) nor have I made light the weight in the scales. I have not snatched the milk from the mouth of the babe. I have not (18) driven the cattle from their pastures. I have not snared the water-fowl of the gods. I have not caught fishes (19) with bait of their own bodies. I have not turned back water at its springtide. I have not broken the channel of running water. I have not quenched the flame (20) in its fulness. I have not disregarded the seasons for the offerings which are appointed; I have not turned away the cattle set apart for sacrifice. I have not thwarted the processions of the god. (21) 1 am pure. I am pure. I am pure. I am pure. I am pure with the purity of the great Bennu bird which is in Suten-henen; for, lo! I am the nostrils of (22) the lord of the winds who maketh all men to live on the day when the eye of the sun becometh full in Annu, in the second month of the season of coming forth until the end thereof, (23) in the presence of the lord of this earth. I behold the eye of the sun wax full in Annu. May no evil happen unto me in this land in the (24) Hall of Double Right and Truth, because I know, even I, the names of the gods who live therein and who are the followers of the great god."
Lash wrote:1. And God spake all these words, saying
2. I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
5. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6. And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
7. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
8. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10. But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11. For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
12. Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.
13. Thou shalt not kill.
14. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15. Thou shall not steal.
16. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
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Thanks lash, but somehow "ten basic rules for life" just aren't jumping out at me there. I see a few good ideas but ten would be quite a stretch. I also see some rather restrictive and disgusting lines.
Hey. Nobody said you would approve. They just said these were the ten rules.
The 'visiting iniquities' line, I bet.... Not a favorite in many circles...
Lash,
I asked NoNe for a biblical reference for the aluded "ten main rules for life in Bible". The reason for asking was clarification of which ten rules were being refered to.
You obviously assumed the Ten Commandments although your reference does not show a relationship to "ten" of anything.
It is interesting to me that so many people that call themselves Christians seem to find more affection to the more barbaric OT than the NT.
For instance, Mathew 5:1-12 could also be considered as good guidance.
1 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into the mountain: and when he had sat down, his disciples came unto him:
2 and he opened his mouth and taught them, saying,
3 (1)Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 (2) Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
5 (3) Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
6 (4) Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
7 (5) Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
8 (6) Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
9 (7) Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called sons of God.
10 (8) Blessed are they that have been persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 (9) Blessed are ye when men shall reproach you, and persecute you, and say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 (10) Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets that were before you.
Who found more affection for the OT? I missed that.
I much prefer the Beatitudes.
Certainly not scientific, but as discussion fodder, a search of A2K for "Ten Commandments" shows 263 forum topic matches while Beatitudes only comes up with 11.
Pardon, but aren't there many gay priests in the Catholic church?
The Ten Commandments are likely cited by more atheists than Christians on this particular site--but, like yours, not a scientifically tested theory...
We could have a poll of Christians... I may be wrong.
sunlover wrote:Pardon, but aren't there many gay priests in the Catholic church?
One's sexual orientation is immaterial; the point is chastity and celibacy. Whether heterosexual or homosexual, a priest is proscribed from sexual activity of any sort. That said, there are those of both persuasions who fail to observe the rules.
Quote:One's sexual orientation is immaterial; the point is chastity and celibacy. Whether heterosexual or homosexual, a priest is proscribed from sexual activity of any sort. That said, there are those of both persuasions who fail to observe the rules.
...and where does it say this?
thunder_runner32 wrote:Quote:One's sexual orientation is immaterial; the point is chastity and celibacy. Whether heterosexual or homosexual, a priest is proscribed from sexual activity of any sort. That said, there are those of both persuasions who fail to observe the rules.
...and where does it say this?
Timber is correct!
The Bible...and Catholicism...does not condemn homosexuality.
It condemns homosexual behavior.
Big difference.
Frankly, I think they are full of shyt no matter which it is....but the fact is that it is the act that is being condemned....not the orientation.
Frank Apisa wrote:thunder_runner32 wrote:Quote:One's sexual orientation is immaterial; the point is chastity and celibacy. Whether heterosexual or homosexual, a priest is proscribed from sexual activity of any sort. That said, there are those of both persuasions who fail to observe the rules.
...and where does it say this?
Timber is correct!
The Bible...and Catholicism...does not condemn homosexuality.
It condemns homosexual behavior.
Big difference.
Frankly, I think they are full of shyt no matter which it is....but the fact is that it is the act that is being condemned....not the orientation.
Leviticus 18:22 is the most cited of all the Biblical quotes.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2018:22;&version=31;49;45;74;15;
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2018:22;&version=47;48;50;77;16;
All versions state that male homosexual behaviour is abominable.
1 Corinthians 6:9 is another passage that people like to use to point out that homosexuality is wrong.
In the 21st Century King James Version, all mentions of homosexual and homosexuality in that passage aren't there.
Just check out the variation in the wording of that passage:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%206:9;&version=50;53;65;31;49;
thunder_runner32 wrote:Quote:One's sexual orientation is immaterial; the point is chastity and celibacy. Whether heterosexual or homosexual, a priest is proscribed from sexual activity of any sort. That said, there are those of both persuasions who fail to observe the rules.
...and where does it say this?
A fairly thorough treatment of the concept may be found
HERE. Given that celibacy and chastity are concommitant with Holy Orders, sexual practice is proscribed for the clergy. It matters not a whit whether one prefers on gender or the other, sexual practice of any sort is proscribed for the ordained.
Wolf_ODonnell, I will point out it is the practice which is abomination. Nothing is said of inclination. The sin, not the sinner, is despised. One's sexual preferrence is not addressed, it is sexual practice which is condemmed. Should one of homosexual preferrence remain chaste in body and mind, refraining from sexual practice, no sin is committed.
BBB
Can anyone tell me how knowledgeable about the cause of homosexuality the ancients were? please note there wasn't even a word for it in any language until the term was coined in our time.
Given that lack of knowledge of the genetic hormonal malfunction leading to the origin of homosexuality in the womb, why do some continue to support homophobia based on ancient ignorance in an ancient age of superstition and mystical beliefs?
Oh, I forgot, some people are still thinking as in the ages of superstition and mystical beliefs. That explains it.
BBB
