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bubu
 
Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2005 05:17 pm
Hello,

What does 'but for' mean in the sentence below? Does it mean 'in spite of ' or 'along with'?

But for all his achievements Hassan is a controversial figure.

Thanks
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hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2005 05:27 pm
'In spite of' but it is a little less exclamatory than that. It's an almost poetic turn of phrase - bordering on cliche.
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rufio
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2005 12:28 am
It depends on what the acheivements are. Without any context, to me it looks like a sentence incorrectly begun with "but" as a conjunction.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2005 12:40 am
eg

But for the grace of god there go I


wow a split infitive too.
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syntinen
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2005 08:41 am
"But for" is an idiom meaning roughly "without" or "had it not been for".

E.g.:

But for Jack I would have been killed (i.e. "had it not been for Jack /without Jack I would have been killed").
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rufio
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2005 01:05 pm
hingehead wrote:
wow a split infitive too.


Uh, where? There's no infinitive in that sentence.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2005 04:49 pm
Sorry - all I know about split infinitives comes from Star Trek 'To boldly go'.
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SusanMiles
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2005 07:12 am
An infinitive
An infinitive is to followed by a verb.

She hoped to go first. "To go" is your infinitive. "To go boldly" is correct, "To boldly go" is a split infinitive.
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