Extremely ugly Australians.

Thanks for the article msolga. I can only speculate on how thorough the U.S. government is on screening registered pedophiles that plan to go abroad.

It is a horrible feeling to know that these sick individuals, more than likely, are planning to exploit children in disaster ridden areas of the world (or anywhere else for that matter.)

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Unbelievably despicable is right, this vermin should be exterminated.

And to think my conscience used to bother me ( a little) because I went home with really drunk girls at closing time occasionally.

Re: Extremely ugly Australians.

The good news is that your country's registery program seems to be working. That is refreshing!

There has been much discussion of doing the same in Canada, but not in effect yet. I sure wish they'd get on with it.

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It sounds like early days yet, but it certainly is looking promising, I agree!
It's very positive to see that all the countries involved are working with each other, too. About time, too!

Yes it is.

And a couple of high profile convictions, too.

Thing is, some of them are damned clever - and the net has been a dreadful boon to them.

Still, things ar emoving.

If we can only stop CREATING them.....

A few deatails about workings of the registry are included in this article:

Aussies prey on tsunami children
Kathryn Shine
April 16, 2005/ the AUSTRALIAN

ABOUT 20 convicted pedophiles tried to travel to Indonesia and Thailand immediately after the Boxing Day tsunami to prey on vulnerable, displaced children.

The pedophiles were forced to tell police they planned to travel overseas, under the rules of the new national child sex offender register.

Their details were forwarded to Thai and Indonesian authorities, who are understood to have refused them entry to their countries.

NSW, Queensland, Victoria, Western Australia and the Northern Territory have established registers that link to the national database. The other states are due to join the scheme by the end of the year.

Detective Senior Sergeant Martin Voyez, who heads the West Australian register, said about 20 registered pedophiles from around Australian attempted to travel to Thailand and Indonesia earlier this year.

"After the tsunami, a large number of Indonesian and Thai children were displaced and became very vulnerable," he said.

"This attracted a higher number of pedophiles to those areas than usual.

"The details of the pedophiles on the system were communicated to the Indonesian and Thai authorities.

"We know that countries, including Thailand and Indonesia, do not allow people on sex offender registers to travel into their countries.

"They would not give them a visa or they would turn them away at the airport."

The Australian Federal Police, who are responsible for relaying the information to overseas authorities, would not release details of specific cases nor confirm whether they had notified their Indonesian and Thai counterparts.

An AFP spokesman said the organisation regularly passed information about pedophilia to police forces within the region. The Weekend Australian understands that although the AFP relays the information, it is not always made aware of the outcome of its advice.

Child Wise national director Bernadette McMenamin said she was delighted Australian authorities were working to prevent child abuse at home and overseas.

"The register is great," she said. "This is such an improvement but I would like to see it go further."

"If the offenders are considered to be very high risk they should be refused the right to leave the country."

Ms McMenamin said Child Wise and other international child protection agencies held grave fears for children left orphaned and homeless after the tsunami. "There's no doubt the children are extremely vulnerable and there has been an increase in trafficking," she said.

Under the rules of the national register, convicted pedophiles are required to tell police where they live and work, what car they drive, when and where they plan to travel and to what clubs or associations they belong.

The maximum penalty for failing to register is a two-year jail sentence and a $12,000 fine.

People must report to police within seven to 28 days of leaving custody, depending on the state in which they live.

NSW, which was the first state to establish a register, has 1800 pedophiles on its list, while Western Australia has 140, Victoria 138, Queensland 58 and the Northern Territory six.

Police expect 15,000 pedophiles to be registered nationally by the end of the year.

Only people who were in custody for child sex offences or convicted of pedophilia when their state legislation was enacted are required to register. However, the West Australian Government has moved to expand the state register to include anyone convicted of pedophilia in the past eight years. Detective Senior Sergeant Voyez said most pedophiles readily complied with the registering and reporting obligations.

"Pedophiles are notoriously compliant," he said.

Many recognised the need for a register and some who were not legally required to provide their details to police had done so anyway.

"Pedophiles are at high risk of re-offending," he said.

"A vast majority will reoffend. If they are aware they are being monitored and managed, that's a deterrent. In itself it is not going to stop people re-offending but it will minimise the risk."

The information on the national register is available only to a limited number of specialist police. Authorities decided not to make the information public to avoid vigilantes targeting people with a history of pedophilia.

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Yes.

How?

Last Update: Sunday, April 17, 2005. 9:00am (AEST)

The Government says Australian paedophiles have tried to enter Asia to prey on tsunami victims. (ABC)

Seize paedophiles' passports: advocate

A national child welfare group wants the Federal Government to confiscate the passports of convicted paedophiles to prevent them from travelling overseas.

The Government has confirmed a number of child-sex offenders attempted to visit Indonesia and Thailand to prey on children affected by the Asian tsunami.

They were on the national child-sex offender register and had to inform police they were planning to travel overseas.

It is understood the information was forwarded to Asian authorities who refused to allow the paedophiles into Thailand and Indonesia.

The national director of Child Wise, Bernadette McMenamin, says the register is reliant on other countries turning Australian paedophiles away.

She says the Federal Government should immediately cancel the passports of paedophiles on the register.

"There are some child-sex offenders that are too high-risk to be let out of the country," Ms McMenamin said.

"It's an absolutely radical move but it's like no other crime," she added. "The recidivism rate is extremely high and many of these individuals have 30, 40 or 50 years of offending against children."

Yesterday, the Minister for Justice and Customs, Chris Ellison, said the Government and Australian Federal Police were working closely with Asian authorities to stop paedophiles from travelling to the region.

"It is of concern to me that paedophiles might use the current environment in Indonesia and Thailand, in fact the region, to prey upon children," Senator Ellison said.

"Australia must do everything possible to stop what is an abominable activity.

"We certainly are concerned in relation to the vulnerable status of some areas of the region that paedophiles might want to exploit the situation."

It's something I hadn't thought about, but I'm not really surprised.

Taking away their passports is irrelevant.

Since they can't be rehabilitated, they shouldn't be let out of prison.

MsOlga, this is something I hadn't considered. It is despicable, unbelievable that the most vulnerable are targeted like prey.

Goodfielder, I wonder if it would be possible in this country to confine pedophiles in some kind of prison for the rest of their lives? It isn't possible to rehabilitate them, even those who feel remorse. I wonder if this has even been discussed by lawmakers?

I have some ambivalence at the thought of the registry because of its control of a person's life; I'm sure some sex offenders, like some on death row, have been wrongly convicted. Yet how can children be protected if they, sex offenders, are free to live anonymously? Like the argument against the death penalty--if even one person is unjustly put to death, the law cannot be justified. If even one person has been unjustly convicted of a sexual crime, is the registry justified, knowing it could ruin an innocent person's life?

Sorry, off topic, I'm getting very sleepy and tending to ramble.

Diane in some states in Australia there is a legal authority to allow indefinite sentencing for paedophiles. In some ways it's testament to our inability to understand what motivates paedophiles. I'm sure that much research work is being done to try to understand why they are as they are and hopefully that will come to fruition and we will have an effective method of treatment. But until that's the case I really do believe that convicted paedophiles must stay in prison. I'm not given to ranting and raving about crime and I know that these days all you have to do to destroy someone in public life is to even hint at them being a paedophile but those who are found guilty must stay in prison until they are rehabilitated. The crime itself, the damage to the victim, the need for protection of children, all for mine at least trump every other consideration. We can insure ourselves against unrehabilitated housebreakers, we can't do the same for children.

Yes, what to do is very tricky, to be sure!
I would consider myself liberal minded person. (as the term is generally used in Oz).

Lock someone up & throw away the key?
Castrate them, maybe?
The problem is, we (& apparently the authorities) don't, as goodfielder suggests, understand what motivates pedophiles. Therefore we don't know the best way to "rehabilitate" them. Some of the best known "offenders" appear to be intelligent, well off & definitely in control of their lives. So are we to assume that they can't stop themselves from acting or that they choose not to? I don't get it, really I don't .....

In the meantime, the effects on the children they prey on is profound & lasting. The thought of vulnerable children orphaned by a tragic event such as the tsunami being targeted by ANY adult is totally abhorrent. In this instance my normal inclination to support most individuals or groups' civil liberties just doesn't apply. The protection of the most vulnerable, the children, overrides everything else. The worst possible crime would be NOT to protect them.

This news is absolutely appalling but not really surprising to me, I'm afraid to say.
Having worked in the legal system (UK) for some years, I have attended extensive training on how to deal with various types of offenders.
I have also interviewed Paedophiles, and have "supervised" them whilst they are subject to Court Orders, and can honestly say that without exception they are the most devious, manipulative people I have ever met.
They are very convincing in their "supposed" remorse, and can easily fool the Authorities into believing that they have turned over a new leaf. I for one would not trust a "reformed" Paedophile as far as I could throw one.
Castration is not really the answer, as the urge to do what they do is not purely a sexual one. It is normally the case that the abuser has suffered from sexual abuse in the past, or they have suffered some other form of abuse, ie deprived of love as a child, made to feel inadequate, or even a simple thing such as not being as "prized" as much as their siblings.
Rejection or humiliation (either real or imagined) during adolescence is another big factor.
A recurring reason given for their offences seems to be one of trying to "impress" a minor and to take the role of "teacher", in order to feed their need to be important and valued. I'm not saying that Michael Jackson is guilty as charged, but the stories coming out seem to fit in exactly with the aforementioned "teacher" role, and seems to be a classic example.
Therefore, when they abuse, there is a whole "can of worms" inside their brains causing them to act. Removing the sexual urge will not necessarily stop them from offending and could possibly make some of them worse, as another cause for resentment could be added to their own personal melting pot.
I have no idea as to the way ahead, apart from incarceration. The protection of the public should always come first.

I don't know if anyone else caught this snippet.... I coughed up my cornflakes in disbelief.

Not too welcome in Australia any more.....



Now Naura, that seems like a place that could use some priests and lay workers -- about several hundred.

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