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Democrats, Communists?

 
 
Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2005 07:33 am
I feel that the way Democrats treat taxes, they have a hint of communism in them. I wouldn't have a problem with this if we had a communism and they supported it, but they don't, and in fact they admonish it. In our society it is only fair that if you work harder and have a greatly higher income than the average american that you should get to keep it instead of losing a higher percentage of your hard earned money as taxes. At least make it so that everyone has the same percentage or same amount because it provides no incentive (like communism) if wages are evened out like that.
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ubabo0113
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2005 07:36 am
I agree... the idea of communism could be found in this society. Gladly, none of the upper class citizens have realized this and faithfullly still pay their taxes. =]
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2005 07:48 am
Fact check:
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The US is an excellent place to be rich. Back in 1980 the average American chief executive earned forty times the average manufacturing employee. For the top tier of American CEOs, the ratio is now 475:1 and would be vastly greater if assets, not income, were taken into account. By way of comparison, the ratio in Britain is 24:1, in France 15:1, in Sweden 13:1.

Source
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2005 07:52 am
I am not sure if you question is a partisan complaint about Democrats, or a sincere question about taxes.

The stance you seem to take in your post (everyone should pay the same percentage of taxes regardless of income) is extreme.

Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans support this. Most Americans believe that that the wealthy do have some responsibility to society and that the poor need some extra help. The political argument is how, and how much.

Pure capitalism would be as much of a disaster as pure Communism. Our system somewhere in the middle, and most of us like it that way.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2005 07:56 am
By the way, I don't know if you really know what a Communist is. Taxing the wealthy a greater percentage to provide a more equal society and a better life to the less fortunate is probably better termed "socialism".

The Democratic party is not socialist enough for my taste. Because of this I haven't voted for a Democrat for a while now.

No one who understands politics seriously uses the term "communist" in this context.
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Jazzfreak13
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 07:02 am
I am not actually comparing them to communists, I am just saying that a certain aspect of the economic system they put in place has communist tendencies. And it does. Frankly I don't care about the poor and since the rich, or at least wealthier than average, people support the government more than others, they should even get more benefits. In America the government supports laziness much more than it should.
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 07:10 am
Jazzfreak13 wrote:
I am not actually comparing them to communists, I am just saying that a certain aspect of the economic system they put in place has communist tendencies. And it does. Frankly I don't care about the poor and since the rich, or at least wealthier than average, people support the government more than others, they should even get more benefits. In America the government supports laziness much more than it should.


You can't have communist "tendencies" - you either are or you're not.

Frankly I don't care about the rich, they can look after themselves. They should get no benefits at all because they don't need them. However they should be able to access the same services as other taxpayers and received state services given to other taxpayers. They should be able to use roads funded by the government, for example. But they should pay for their own botox treatments - and their hair transplants.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 10:44 am
Jazzfreak,

I am guessing you are in highschool or your first couple of years of college. And, I am guessing you are white, live with both your parents. Your family has a minivan and at least one other car.

I will go out on a limb and guess you are either from Northern Florida, or Connecticut... but I am not sure about this...

How did I do?
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 10:47 am
The name Jazzfreak speaks for itself...

Emphasis on "freak."

Perhaps Jazzfreak can espouse his/hers wealth of knowledge on world economies, and perhaps show us a comparison to further his/hers intended argument.

But I seriously doubt it in this case...
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 10:56 am
Take it easy, fellas. This is your/our opportunity to show Jazzfreak perspectives other than the ones he/she was raised with. The fact that this topic was posted is, IMO, a request for information, even if it doesn't seem so.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 11:04 am
For example, let me point out that in this country (and probably every other) there is no correlation between hard work and wealth. People who are in the upper class echelons enjoy myriad benefits other than just their wealth and power. Therefore they should accept their portion of responsibility. I'm going to show my pinko colors and quote someone I can't remember who said "Behind every great fortune is a great crime." That may or may not be true right now, but there was a time when it was probably the rule.

We should remember that we are all in this country/society/world together. You may not give a damn about people who live in poverty right now, but you might give a damn when someone who was raised up in poverty breaks into your house or steals your car or beats up your kid. None of us lives in a vacuum where what's ours is ours and no-one elses. If each of us had only what was ours we would all die of starvation.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 11:58 am
Jazzfreak: Feel free to ignore Dookiestix and his rude commentary. You would not be alone if you did so.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 12:45 pm
Jazzfreak: you can ignore Ticomaya, too. Besides, smoking is bad for your health.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 12:50 pm
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance -- it is the illusion of knowledge."
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 01:20 pm
dyslexia wrote:
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance -- it is the illusion of knowledge."


I knew that already.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 03:08 pm
of course you did. [size=7]liar[/size]
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 03:52 pm
I didn't Very Happy
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 03:52 pm
I didn't Very Happy
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 03:53 pm
I didn't Very Happy
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 03:53 pm
I didn't Very Happy
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