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Schindlers List being sold to spammers

 
 
Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2005 01:41 pm
Uh-oh

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f you expressed your support to Terri Schiavo and her parents fight to keep her alive, you may begin to receive a steady stream of solicitations, according to a Local 6 News report.

Terri Schiavo's parents have agreed to sell their list of supporters to a direct-mailing firm, Local 6 News reported.

The company, "Response Unlimited" pays about $150 a month for 6,000 names and $500 a month for 6,000 e-mail addresses.

A spokesperson for the Schindlers confirmed that they had agreed to sell the information, but won't say for how much.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/kgtv/20050329/lo_wkmg/2648050
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boomerang
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2005 01:51 pm
Well now I HAVE heard everything.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2005 01:56 pm
I cant wait to hear the defense of this...should be interesting
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Eva
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2005 10:07 pm
<pulling up a chair and opening a Coke>
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2005 10:18 pm
Anyone checked snopes?
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2005 11:57 pm
There's no question the list WAS available through a Direct Marketing firm:

CNN: Direct-mail firm using Schindlers' Donor list

NYT: List of Schiavo Donors Will Be Sold by Direct-Marketing Firm

However, it appears the list was not sold by the Schindlers to the direct marketing firm, but essentially was part of a quid pro quo arrangement related to the direct marketing firm's having undertaken management of email fundraising for the Schindler cause. The list itself largely derived through the efforts of the direct marketing firm in the first place, arguably renderin' it the firm's property to begin with, and in any event, though apparently it had been available, as would be common practice under such arrangements, for purchase by interested parties for about 2 weeks, by the time it became "News", it had been withdrawn from the direct marketing firm's product list.


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Manager Removes Schiavo List From Site

March 30, 2005

By: Scott Hovanyetz
Senior Editor
[email protected]


A list of donors to a fund set up by the parents of Terri Schiavo apparently was no longer advertised in a catalog of lists on offer from list manager/broker Response Unlimited as of yesterday following a report in The New York Times.
Response Unlimited, Waynesboro, VA, had advertised the Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation Active Donors list as early as March 15. An ad on the broker's Web site had offered 6,198 2005 donor names for $150 per thousand and 4,439 opt-in e-mail addresses for $500 per thousand.

"Each of these donors responded to an e-mail during February 2005 from Terri Schindler-Schiavo's father on behalf of his daughter," the ad stated. "These compassionate pro-lifers donated toward (Schiavo father) Bob Schindler's legal battle to keep Terri's estranged husband from removing the feeding tube from Terri."

As of yesterday, a link to the ad found through a Google search led to a page that stated, "This list is not a managed property of Response Unlimited, contact for details." A call to Response Unlimited president and founder Philip Zodhiates was not returned yesterday.

The Times reported on the list in a story in yesterday's editions. According to the Times, Schiavo's father had consented to rental of the list in exchange for Response Unlimited's handling of an e-mail campaign to raise money on the family's behalf.

When making decisions on how a list should be used, direct marketers must be conscious of the wishes of the list's owner, said Lou Mastria, spokesman for the Direct Marketing Association. The DMA's ethical guidelines also state that promotions and ads for marketing lists should "reflect a sensitivity for the consumers on those lists."

"The marketer is duty bound to be sensitive to what the list owner wants to do," Mastria said. "It comes down to what the list owner believes is best for that asset."


There doesn't appear to be much "There" there, does there?
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2005 12:24 am
For info the link is now dead.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2005 07:48 pm
goodfielder wrote:
For info the link is now dead.


As is the issue.
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2005 08:17 pm
I don't think it is dead. There are some ramifications from it that will continue to reverberate. Some are positive - I would suggest that many people are now considering powers of attorney/Living Wills and some are negative (the attack by politicians on judges and courts). But there are issues which arise from this sad case which will continue to be hotly debated.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2005 08:24 pm
Oh, the Schiavo thing will reverberate through the halls of politics for a good while to come - no question. The dead issue to which I referred was the Mailing List Issue; there just ain't no "There" there.
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Eva
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 08:01 am
Well, good.
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flyboy804
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 08:04 am
The links were probably pulled due to an error in the cost. A correction in today's "Times" says the price is $150/1000 names not for the entire list.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 08:39 am
I'd say the Yahoo link expired for lack of interest - a Yahoo! News article's hit count drops to a certain level, Yahoo drops the article; Yahoo! News doesn't archive. CNN and NYT, on the other hand, rarely retire articles; those links are live and likely will remain so.
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