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I feel like a lost soul sometimes.

 
 
kickycan
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 12:15 am
Maybe you're right, littlek. No, I'm not evil and murderous (I don't think), but I do feel like I'm pushing a boulder up a hill only to have it roll back down again. Over and over and over...

JL, CJ, thanks for the advice and suggestions. Much appreciated.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 12:17 am
JL Nobody wrote:
Listen to Adrian and LittleK, but most importantly to yourself.



I'm sure this was merely an oversight on your part, JL, but I didn't see the phrase "Listen to Gus" mentioned anywhere in your text.
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 12:17 am
Well, good luck finding the way. When you figure it out, let me in on it..... See ya tomorrow.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 12:17 am
I think it was just that it goes without saying that I will listen to you, Gus.
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patiodog
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 12:18 am
was in a theater group years back called "the sisyphus project." damn local newspaper could never figure out how to spell it.





hey, advice folks -- will you be around in about nine years?
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 12:19 am
Kind of like the misspelling of Kant on the college bulletin board which elicited an enormous interest in the class, huh, patiodog?
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 12:20 am
I think the class was entitlled "Exploring the Mysteries of Kant"
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patiodog
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 12:21 am
so that's what happened! I just thought everyone was excited about the advertised "close reading"!
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 03:57 am
patiodog wrote:
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would it brighten your evening to know that I just found, in my email, an invitation to attend an "EQUINE ABORTION LUNCH" on Wednesday? I'm hoping it's not what is looks like, and they're just ordering pizza or something...


Lord, I have missed that damned puppy.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 04:21 am
ARE you still headed to Italy, Kicky?

And it sounds like you really are in the midst of the midlife re-appraisal thing - I know it sounds banal - but I guess things get to be called banal because they happen often.

As well as whatever is essentially Kicky and nobody else.

I think that is always an uncomfortable process - but a very potentially positive process. You know - meaning in the face of death and such.

I was kind of intrigued about the not enjoying things as much during, as after.

I think that is very common - and, much as I hate to sound all portentous and stuff, I think there is a real benefit in being as present as possible in the here and now - and savouring it. I do wonder if you think a lot about how this would be great "if such and such or so and so were here/happening/ etc. too" - ie you focus a lot on what is not perfect at the time - and only realise in hindsight how much fun it was. Ahem - (heavy crap warning) remember, all we ever have is the absolute moment we exist in.

That being said - you hate your job - so a lot of your moments are not easy to find happiness or fulfilment in - right?

Some say suffering is pain and/or experience resisted - (and I am trying to live by that notion - but whinge too much) - and I do wonder if you might try to find a little less suffering in your job while you still need to be there???

Also, I note some of your socialising desires (as well as maybe others) are not being met - you used to have a pack to run with, now not so much.

These things would account, I think, for at least some of the non-existential aspects of your angst


Or - you need more fibre....and/or sex...

Smooches (and sorry for being a tad serious and banal and a pain)


Deb
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 04:21 am
This better not be another bet.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 07:09 am
Are you new to this site, dlowan? I don't recall seeing you around.
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BorisKitten
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 10:41 am
Try reading some Buddhism, they are very much into being present for each moment. Maybe "The Art of Happiness," by the Dalai Lama.

Most of his books are good; they've gotten me out of many a crabby/dissatisfied mood.
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JPB
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 11:13 am
Good book, BK. I concur with "The Art of Happiness", Kicky - it's a good one.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 12:24 pm
dlowan wrote:
ARE you still headed to Italy, Kicky?


Yes, and I can't wait. I'm now beginning to regret that I asked my parents to come along for the whole damn thing though...it might have been easier to go soul-searching on another continent without the same old voices in my ear...but still...I won't be spending every minute with them, and I feel like I'm doing something good for them too. They would probably never do this if it wasn't for me pushing it.

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And it sounds like you really are in the midst of the midlife re-appraisal thing - I know it sounds banal - but I guess things get to be called banal because they happen often.

As well as whatever is essentially Kicky and nobody else.

I think that is always an uncomfortable process - but a very potentially positive process. You know - meaning in the face of death and such.

I was kind of intrigued about the not enjoying things as much during, as after.

I think that is very common - and, much as I hate to sound all portentous and stuff, I think there is a real benefit in being as present as possible in the here and now - and savouring it. I do wonder if you think a lot about how this would be great "if such and such or so and so were here/happening/ etc. too" - ie you focus a lot on what is not perfect at the time - and only realise in hindsight how much fun it was. Ahem - (heavy crap warning) remember, all we ever have is the absolute moment we exist in.


That makes a lot of sense. I really do try to (Oprah-like cliche crap warning) stop and smell the roses.

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That being said - you hate your job - so a lot of your moments are not easy to find happiness or fulfilment in - right?

Some say suffering is pain and/or experience resisted - (and I am trying to live by that notion - but whinge too much) - and I do wonder if you might try to find a little less suffering in your job while you still need to be there???


Yup. I really do seem to gravitate towards the misery and hate when I'm in this infernal hellhole--oh ****, there I go again! I can't stop myself! I must love the hate--maybe I'm trying to keep myself motivated to get the hell out of here by focusing on it. I really do seem to have a problem with laziness/procrastination, and I think this is why I do that.

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Also, I note some of your socialising desires (as well as maybe others) are not being met - you used to have a pack to run with, now not so much.


This is a big part of it, I think. Very big. Huge even. But this is also the one that I really have the least amount of control over, it seems.

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These things would account, I think, for at least some of the non-existential aspects of your angst


Or - you need more fibre....and/or sex...

Smooches (and sorry for being a tad serious and banal and a pain)


Deb


Wait a second...that's it! I need more fibre! Thank god I figured that out!

Seriously though, you make a lot of sense. I'm lucky to have the benefit of so many smarties like you. Thanks.

P.S. No this is not another bet. I won't be doing that betting crap again.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 12:25 pm
BorisKitten and J_B, I think I actually have that book somewhere. I started reading it a long time ago, and then just stopped for some reason. I'll have to look around and see if I can find it.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 12:33 pm
Do you not have much control over the friends thing, Kicky?

It IS harder to make good friends as we get older - but by no means impossible - though if work is a no go that way that limits your choices?

Thing is, you just need to optimize the numbers of folk of possible like mind that you are coming across - a certain number will trickle through, given time, to friend status.

YOU ARE TAKING YOUR FOLKS TO ITALY???

Not the whole time, I do hope?
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 12:39 pm
Poor Kicky...
I am not going through mid-life wondering-what-the-hell-I-am-doing-with-my-life phase...
I am going through the late 20's what-the-hell-have-I-been-doing-for-the-last-few-years-and-where-am-I-going-what's-my-purpose-in-life thingy. So I feel your pain. I feel like I am running in circles and quite frankly, I am getting tired. I don't do exercise well.

I spend lots of time contemplating what I am going to do when I grow up. I like my job but I am not quite sure where I want to go from here. Caree path? There is such a thing?

I don't have kids yet, no house, no pets, no money, no career (just a job). I did get married and that is something I suppose, having someone around all the time to hear me complain. But all those things that we are "suppose" to have by now, I don't have. And it sucks. And it's depressing. And I have come to the conclusion that it is someone else fault that we feel this way. The pressure is far to great to be and do things that are labeled successful in life and as a person.

But that is just my opinion. What do I know.

(((((((((Kicky))))))))))
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 12:58 pm
kickycan wrote:

Yup. I really do seem to gravitate towards the misery and hate when I'm in this infernal hellhole--oh ****, there I go again! I can't stop myself! I must love the hate--maybe I'm trying to keep myself motivated to get the hell out of here by focusing on it. I really do seem to have a problem with laziness/procrastination, and I think this is why I do that.


For some of us, the hate feels like home. Sick, I know.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 01:10 pm
dlowan, your reaction makes me think I really screwed up. But I already knew that. Others have had the same reaction to me telling them I'm going to Italy with my parents. Yes, I am an idiot.

When I first decided to go, I thought it would be boring to go by myself. And since my mother has never been there, I thought it would be nice to get her to go there, plus it would be cheaper, plus they are at the age where it is now or never...all these little reasons added up to me being a moron and planning it this way.

I will make sure to go off on my own for some of the trip, but, yes, of course, as usual, my idiotic crazy family issues have f*cked me once again.

Maybe I'll just throw myself into Mt. Vesuvius.
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