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There is no soul or spirit at all...

 
 
thunder runner32
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2005 10:10 am
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Where is that true person? What we see externally, or that person that hides behind their persona?

Probably noone can tell...that's wierd. From my standpoint, I'd say God is the only one who can tell. It's even more illusive on the internet....
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CodeBorg
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2005 11:56 am
cicerone imposter -
Thanks for the nods. It's good to be read, and maybe even strike a chord with someone! :-)

If you could leave a lasting legacy, something that represents your values or beliefs,
what you think or care about . . . what would YOU leave for the world?

If anything were possible . . .
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2005 12:12 pm
CodeBorg, You're trying to put me on the spot! LOL However, I don't expect to "leave anything for the world." I bore two wonderful sons, and for me that's quite sufficient, because they are both humanitarians without religion. They have good ethics, and have generally made me proud as their father. I have met and made many wonderful friends around this planet; for me, that's an accomplishment that's far beyond my dreams.
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thunder runner32
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2005 05:55 am
When I leave the world, I hope my legacy (if any at all...lol) will be one that will inspire others in a positive manner. I would hope that everyone would listen to other's points-of-view, that's probably the biggest problem with us, that and our morality.
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badgercat
 
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Reply Sat 28 May, 2005 04:36 pm
It seems that a definiton of soul is being relegated to interpretation. I would therefore like to put forth one that is of more interest to me; after death.

Soul = Ability to receive sensory input and recall previous input and make new input based on one and/or other after death without need for organic form.

Like I care if someone chants my name for the next thousand years if I cannot be around in some aware form.
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Eorl
 
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Reply Sun 29 May, 2005 05:19 am
under that definition badgercat I'd say there is no soul.

..but I care now about what happens after I die...in particular I care for how my daughter sees me, what she takes from who I am and what she does with it, and so on thru the generations.
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badgercat
 
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Reply Sun 29 May, 2005 10:23 am
Curious.

I view lack of soul under that definiton meaning we are just a higher form of animal and therefore values are subjective to improving and prolonging our species. As a caveman if I killed all of the other tribe vying for our food, my name would be grunted in song Very Happy for as long as they continued existing. But do that today and I would be a mass murderer. Values change.

So my point I guess is how people see me doesn't really affect me on an after death scenario.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 29 May, 2005 04:34 pm
badge, And if we're lucky, people won't notice us while we are alive. Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
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thunder runner32
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2005 10:50 am
Why don't you want to be noticed c.i? You have a pretty big impact on A2k at least.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2005 10:56 am
Anybody with over 25,000 posts will be noticed by somebody. LOL
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thunder runner32
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2005 11:02 am
Sheesh, you've been around, haven't you? Surely you should be able to get some kind of award for having that many posts.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2005 11:05 am
The only award that I'm interested in is the friendships I have developed through a2k. Have attended five a2k gatherings thus far; two in London, one in San Francisco, one in Austin, and one in Lippstadt, Germany. I hope to attend more a2k gatherings in the future.
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thunder runner32
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 05:40 am
Are these gatherings big, like convention size? Or do just a few get together?
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agrote
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 11:17 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
The only award that I'm interested in is the friendships I have developed through a2k. Have attended five a2k gatherings thus far; two in London, one in San Francisco, one in Austin, and one in Lippstadt, Germany. I hope to attend more a2k gatherings in the future.


Wow, you're hardcore.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 11:35 am
Quote, "Wow, you're hardcore." To the bone! These gatherings are usually in groups of less than 12, but that also gives us a chance to meet with everybody that attends. The most interesting aspect of these gatherings is the fact that "everybody is above average" in every way.
You couldn't meet nicer people at these gatherings including long-time friends at home - and frankly, I would confess that some of my a2k friends are "closer" to my heart than some of my long-time friends.
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