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who exists?

 
 
igm
 
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Reply Tue 12 Mar, 2013 10:14 am
@imans,
imans wrote:

when u deal constantly with else existence then u cant b but true left u out so the freedom from all that could b the closest to ur true identity


I don't disagree.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2013 09:09 pm
We might ask , in addition to who exists, WHAT exists or what is "existence"?
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2013 10:14 pm
@JLNobody,
...its a bit of a trap J, equally we could ask what exists in "what"... either one assumes existence or one better stay still... Wink
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imans
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2013 02:19 am
existence is objective fact, somthg that occur without me or anyone sayin it

how do we know objective facts, they are absolute independant and living realities

it is impossible to think from the end in order to know the thing or object source
bc to mean somthing existence source it is like denyin what exist being now
and what exist now in denial is the will to know about else which is impossible
bc u r what exist then u cant know else by being u
that is why dealin with else considerations is the only way of existing

when existence is true so objective fact then any is individually existing

this is mayb why the rejection of truth is so strong, since admittin existence is to lose any possible support of powerful other life
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2013 02:38 am
@imans,
Amazing...you manage to say something that I can understand and even partially agree...woooow the world must be coming to an end !
imans
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2013 05:58 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
prove it say it back with ur own words, im sure u cant say what did u understand exactly
u r a liar while thinkin that u can b the only reason to believe, such insolent face, existence is the only thing appearin so ur lies are too obvious while the perspective that isolate u from positive existence is the only objective fact

the world is the same forever only difference is that u get down animals and right people like me who are a lot control u
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2013 06:05 am
@JLNobody,
Quote:
We might ask , in addition to who exists, WHAT exists or what is "existence"?


I nominate: A seeming inability on your part to hit the "Reply" button just once!
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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2013 10:25 am
@imans,
...back to nonsense again, that's better, stay that way or a comet will hit us !... Mr. Green
imans
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2013 10:48 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
u too stay as u r believing urself through lies and thinking knowing the right sense end
it is a fact that u r finished
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onelife
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2014 01:09 pm
@The Pentacle Queen,
We could be thinking along similar lines. It is very scary and I have been struggling to find a way of communicating my ideas to someone. I can't find a way of putting into words the thoughts I have. Perhaps something will happen now.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2014 01:30 pm
Does anyone see an interesting similarity between "existence"and "presence" as subjective realities--as opposed to the objective positive or minus qualities of some mathematical entity?
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rendrag
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2022 04:00 am
@The Pentacle Queen,
I to0 have similar thoughts . It's quite scary . One way of looking at the conundrum is - Why am I at the centre of the universe and so is every other person ??
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rendrag
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2022 04:04 am
@The Pentacle Queen,
I too have this problem . It's quite scary . How come that I am at the centre of the universe ? But so is everyone else !!
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2022 12:32 pm
@The Pentacle Queen,
At the very least cogito ergo sum: me.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2022 03:48 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

At the very least cogito ergo sum: me.


NO!

Cogito ergo SUM!

Wink
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Jasper10
 
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Reply Sat 16 Apr, 2022 01:11 am
@The Pentacle Queen,
In response to the original post:

I exist.

bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 16 Apr, 2022 07:31 pm
@Jasper10,
Sorta "Cogit ergo est".
Jasper10
 
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Reply Sat 16 Apr, 2022 11:26 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
No…bobsal…sorta “i am, therefore I think”……….I am aware that I am aware that I exist.

I’m not a thought…..I have thoughts.

I am separate from thoughts just as I am separate from consciousness and awareness.



The Anointed
 
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Reply Sat 16 Apr, 2022 11:33 pm
@rendrag,
Quote:
How come that I am at the centre of the universe ? But so is everyone else !!


Of all the stars in heaven and the space that lies between
Its centre, is the planet of my birth.
And earth’s horizon stretches outward at equal distance from my throne
So I hold the central point upon this earth
As light and sound need time to carry, all their messages to me
My senses tells me all has run its race
And everything that happens, has happened in my past
So I hold the highest point in time and space.
A primitive concept some might say
And a view that leads to sin
Well! Perhaps we all were made this way
To discover God within…… The Anointed.

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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2022 12:26 am
@Jasper10,
And don't we all bloody know it.
 

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