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who exists?

 
 
Chrissee
 
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Sun 25 Sep, 2005 12:36 pm
What do you mean a person like me?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 25 Sep, 2005 12:39 pm
If you were asking me about my avatar...

...yes, it is a picture of me.

Golf is a great game...and provides entertainment and challenge to most of the world's great athletes in other sports.

Why would you characterize it as "crap?"
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Chrissee
 
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Sun 25 Sep, 2005 12:41 pm
spendius wrote:
Queenie-

Mr Apisa's theory is that he is the oracle of wisdom except when he's playing golf where they have to put a flag in the hole to show him where it is.

Chrisee-

The problem with Mr Hawkins is that he's playing around with the word "know" and that he would have to know where he is etc to write the words he uses on the paper which the paper manufacturer would have to know where he is to make and the distributor of it would have to know where....Hey-you could write the longest sentence in history like this as long as you knew where the food was to keep you going.


Dr Hawkins knows where he is. That is the point. One can discover where one is, finding the ultimate truth is not hard, although it took me forty years just to find the path.
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Chrissee
 
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Sun 25 Sep, 2005 12:46 pm
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I do not know what exists...I do not know if dualism or non-dualism is the REALITY...and I do not see enough unambiguous evidence upon which to base a meaningful guess.


Just like OJ will never find Nicole's killer on the golf course (except when he is there) Frank won't find the Presence there either. Little wonder that he is so skeptical when presented with obvious truth.
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Chrissee
 
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Sun 25 Sep, 2005 12:49 pm
Chrissee wrote:
What do you mean a person like me?


Well? You don't know me. My demeanor here is very different than what I am in "real" life. In fact, it is very different from the "me" at other forums.
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spendius
 
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Sun 25 Sep, 2005 12:53 pm
Chrisee-

Isn't that multiple personality whatsit?Is it any good?

I can't do it.I'm always the same.
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Chrissee
 
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Sun 25 Sep, 2005 01:30 pm
spendius wrote:
Chrisee-

Isn't that multiple personality whatsit?Is it any good?

I can't do it.I'm always the same.


No it's not. What I am here is a part of me. And on other forums, I display other parts. I am a lot more argumentative here than elsewhere. It has kind of just evolved. The right-wingers here hate me but, unlike other forums, I don't get much love from anyone. Maybe that is because of the PM restriction. Given direct access to starngers is 1000x more intimate than this format. What I post in public is often caustic and most of the time, I am only just toying with people. Usually, I can only reveal this by pm or I blow my cover, which I am doing now.
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spendius
 
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Sun 25 Sep, 2005 01:46 pm
Chrisee-

I hadn't noticed you being particularly argumentative.
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Chrissee
 
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Sun 25 Sep, 2005 01:52 pm
spendius wrote:
Chrisee-

I hadn't noticed you being particularly argumentative.


Check out the politics forum. I think we are getting at something here, my posting style seems to be highty affected by the other participants and the tone of the thread/forum.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 25 Sep, 2005 02:08 pm
Chrissee wrote:
Quote:
I do not know what exists...I do not know if dualism or non-dualism is the REALITY...and I do not see enough unambiguous evidence upon which to base a meaningful guess.


Just like OJ will never find Nicole's killer on the golf course (except when he is there) Frank won't find the Presence there either. Little wonder that he is so skeptical when presented with obvious truth.


Sounds like your need to pretend you know things you don't know is very high.

Too bad, that.

But I did get a kick out of that "obvious truth" joke.
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spendius
 
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Sun 25 Sep, 2005 04:47 pm
Chrisee-

I had a good go on the Politics forum a while back but there wasn't any politics on it.
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Chrissee
 
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Sun 25 Sep, 2005 10:20 pm
Frank Apisa wrote:
Chrissee wrote:
Quote:
I do not know what exists...I do not know if dualism or non-dualism is the REALITY...and I do not see enough unambiguous evidence upon which to base a meaningful guess.


Just like OJ will never find Nicole's killer on the golf course (except when he is there) Frank won't find the Presence there either. Little wonder that he is so skeptical when presented with obvious truth.


Sounds like your need to pretend you know things you don't know is very high.

Too bad, that.

But I did get a kick out of that "obvious truth" joke.


Hey old chum, you get a "C" you got part of it. You don't get it all. Too bad, that.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Mon 26 Sep, 2005 03:07 am
Chrissee wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
Chrissee wrote:
Quote:
I do not know what exists...I do not know if dualism or non-dualism is the REALITY...and I do not see enough unambiguous evidence upon which to base a meaningful guess.


Just like OJ will never find Nicole's killer on the golf course (except when he is there) Frank won't find the Presence there either. Little wonder that he is so skeptical when presented with obvious truth.


Sounds like your need to pretend you know things you don't know is very high.

Too bad, that.

But I did get a kick out of that "obvious truth" joke.


Hey old chum, you get a "C" you got part of it. You don't get it all. Too bad, that.


Yep...sounds as though your need to pretend is very, very high.
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Chrissee
 
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Mon 26 Sep, 2005 08:22 am
Sounds like your need to think my need to pretend is very high is very high. Next.
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Chrissee
 
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Mon 26 Sep, 2005 08:31 am
Re: who exists?
Frank Apisa wrote:
alphaomega wrote:
The Pentacle Queen wrote:
i have recently come to the conclusion, against my own will that i am the only person who exists. this may sound a little strange, but i have tried and i find it impossible to believe that there could be anyone else who exists apart from myself. I would like to know what other people think, and whether this is a regular belief, because at the moment my own thoughts are scaring my slightly, as if you believe that only you exist, then there is no way of coming to sensible conclusions over ethical and moral problems. There is no way to gauge right and wrong, good or bad if you take other people out of the equation, so how do i stop myself from becoming some kind of selfish monster???


well what part of you exists your left arm or your left leg. do you see what i'm getting at?


I'm not sure where the Pentacle Queen wrote this...but...

...PQ...

...you are free to "believe" anything you want.

Hell...the Red Queen believed six impossible things before breakfast.

"Believing" is nonsense.


Thinking that believeing is nonsense is also a belief. Therefore, the all-knowing Oracle of A2Ks beliefs are nonsense.
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Amigo
 
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Mon 26 Sep, 2005 08:35 am
Re: who exists?
The Pentacle Queen wrote:
i have recently come to the conclusion, against my own will that i am the only person who exists. this may sound a little strange, but i have tried and i find it impossible to believe that there could be anyone else who exists apart from myself. I would like to know what other people think, and whether this is a regular belief, because at the moment my own thoughts are scaring my slightly, as if you believe that only you exist, then there is no way of coming to sensible conclusions over ethical and moral problems. There is no way to gauge right and wrong, good or bad if you take other people out of the equation, so how do i stop myself from becoming some kind of selfish monster???
S**t, Now i'm scared. Thanks
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The Pentacle Queen
 
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Mon 26 Sep, 2005 09:20 am
chrisee: good point.

self portait....
do you have a full time job in a Kiss tribute band?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Mon 26 Sep, 2005 12:12 pm
Re: who exists?
Chrissee wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
alphaomega wrote:
The Pentacle Queen wrote:
i have recently come to the conclusion, against my own will that i am the only person who exists. this may sound a little strange, but i have tried and i find it impossible to believe that there could be anyone else who exists apart from myself. I would like to know what other people think, and whether this is a regular belief, because at the moment my own thoughts are scaring my slightly, as if you believe that only you exist, then there is no way of coming to sensible conclusions over ethical and moral problems. There is no way to gauge right and wrong, good or bad if you take other people out of the equation, so how do i stop myself from becoming some kind of selfish monster???


well what part of you exists your left arm or your left leg. do you see what i'm getting at?


I'm not sure where the Pentacle Queen wrote this...but...

...PQ...

...you are free to "believe" anything you want.

Hell...the Red Queen believed six impossible things before breakfast.

"Believing" is nonsense.


Thinking that believeing is nonsense is also a belief. Therefore, the all-knowing Oracle of A2Ks beliefs are nonsense.




"Thinking" something...or "guessing" "estimating" "supposing" something...is not truly "believing" that something.

But to be honest, I'd hate to be the one with responsibility for explaining a concept that complicated to you. If on the other hand, the concept were "2 + 2 = 4"...I'd take a shot at it...but considering the reasoning power you've shown here, it'd probably still not be a sure thing.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Mon 26 Sep, 2005 12:20 pm
Under any circumstances...for all the big mouthed bravado you are showing...I notice that you have never answered the question I put to you.

The Pentacle Queen wrote:

Quote:
i have recently come to the conclusion, against my own will that i am the only person who exists. this may sound a little strange, but i have tried and i find it impossible to believe that there could be anyone else who exists apart from myself. I would like to know what other people think, and whether this is a regular belief, because at the moment my own thoughts are scaring my slightly, as if you believe that only you exist, then there is no way of coming to sensible conclusions over ethical and moral problems. There is no way to gauge right and wrong, good or bad if you take other people out of the equation, so how do i stop myself from becoming some kind of selfish monster???


To which you replied:

Quote:
You are correct. Everything that exists is one, so you are a part of the only thing that exists. Every thought and action affects all things. So guide yourself accordingly.


To which I asked how you knew that to be so.


No answer given...just a bunch of insults being heaved.

What's the matter, Chrissie? Do you realize that you do not know the stuff you are trying to pass off as knowledge...and are trying to get out from dealing with the question????

I really would like to know....


...how do you know what you are asserting that you know...or are you just guessing and pretending to know?
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Steve 41oo
 
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Mon 26 Sep, 2005 12:33 pm
You are not allowed to ask those questions Frank.

Surely you know in your heart that the PQ and others have channelled into a Great Source, giving them powers to Understand, an Understanding beyond the likes of you and me.

.......................................................

Unfortunately there are a lot of idiots out there some which know how to use a compter.
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