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Where is the US economy headed?

 
 
roger
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 01:53 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

One US carrier battle group blocking your way would had been plenty to stop Mrs Thatcher and the royal navel with it two small jump carriers.



Please don't blame Thatcher for the Queen's belly button. Such comments are not suitable here or any where else.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 02:16 pm
@roger,
That's a good one!
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 02:31 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Be careful Bill the limeys are touchy about naval power.


They should had then bit the bullet and kept up their navel with special note of keeping a few of their full size fleet carriers in service.
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 02:55 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:
As does England and every other country in the world.


Do you really think I, spendi, need to be told that?
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 03:04 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Who the hell wants the UK as the 51st state?


The US does.

Quote:
It says a lot more about the UK than it does America that you chose to import McDonalds over French Bakeries.


The only import is the name which is "McDonald's", a Scottish name. I know a Heinz factory and all the suppliers of it.

We had to show you how to play Rock music with our Sex Pistols. You have a load of middle-class nerdies playing it. And Dylan has a house here. You covered up Elvis's hips. And he ended up in Vegas playing to matrons.

spendius
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 03:05 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
We prefer to be underestimated Finn.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 03:07 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Quote:
Who the hell wants the UK as the 51st state?


The US does.


Hahaha, no, thanks.

Cycloptichorn
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 03:11 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

We prefer to be underestimated Finn.


Then it's a shame that you are so often overestimated.
roger
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 03:12 pm
@spendius,
But that is so hard to do.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 03:52 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
I wonder where anyone would get the crazy idea that the US would wish to take in the UK as a state.

We might take in Canada or more likely parts of Canada when and if their French population cause them to break apart.

Even then it would be likely that we would take them in as more then one state depending on how they would had come apart.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2011 07:35 am
All the above comments just prove that the UK would be better served by moving closer to Europe.
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2011 08:06 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Then it's a shame that you are so often overestimated.


But that sort of overestimation doesn't do us justice. It's what we do to impress colonials.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2011 08:12 am
@spendius,
I agree, it's underestimation that does you justice.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2011 09:34 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn, I think it might help if I put mine and Spendi's remarks into context. Yesterday there was a debate in the House of Commons about holding a referendum on EU membership. This was forced by an online petition, neither party was in favour, and all the talk was of tory backbenchers rebelling against the government. There were lots of interviews with Nigel Farage the leader of UKIP (United Kingdom Independence Party) a fervently anti EU minority party. The impression given was that most of us would rather be out of the EU, both Spendi and I were stating our position re European integration.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2011 09:50 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Finn, I think it might help if I put mine and Spendi's remarks into context. Yesterday there was a debate in the House of Commons about holding a referendum on EU membership. This was forced by an online petition, neither party was in favour, and all the talk was of tory backbenchers rebelling against the government. There were lots of interviews with Nigel Farage the leader of UKIP (United Kingdom Independence Party) a fervently anti EU minority party. The impression given was that most of us would rather be out of the EU, both Spendi and I were stating our position re European integration.


My impression is that if left to a referendum of the peoples of each nation that the EU would be hard pressed to survive. How accurate do you think this is?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2011 09:56 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

My impression is that if left to a referendum of the peoples of each nation that the EU would be hard pressed to survive. How accurate do you think this is?


I think that it's very difficult for me to get an impression from here in Germany about the possible outcome of referenda in the 27 EU-countries.
(And actually, I've never heard that a country besides the UK wants to leave the EU - and they really could, in my opinion.)

You must have better sources, Finn.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2011 10:00 am
@cicerone imposter,
You seem to forget that it was the Bush Admin that negotiated the agreement about when US troops would leave Iraq.
While Obama is getting the credit because he is the president, he actually had nothing to do with it.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2011 10:02 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
I don't think you're that accurate, certain countries, like the UK and Denmark are quite Euro sceptic, but others like Spain, and more recent arrivals are quite enthusiastic. What I think needs to be remembered is how (with the exception of the former Yugoslavia and Cyprus) there has been peace in Europe since WW2, and I think this is due in no small part to the EU.

There are problems with waste, and the richer countries tend to be a bit resentful of the amount each country spends, but the gross figure is always given, the money that goes out, not what comes in. Most businesses tend to view talk of withdrawal from the EU with horror, I can't see us being able to withdraw without negative effects on British business. Not to mention the benefits of going anywhere in Europe and having all the advantages of citizenship. I've still not ruled out retiring to Amsterdam in my dotage.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2011 10:07 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

I don't think you're that accurate, certain countries, like the UK and Denmark are quite Euro sceptic, but others like Spain, and more recent arrivals are quite enthusiastic.


Denmark's agricultural economy couldn't survive without the EU.
But since both countries aren't Euro(€)-countries, you're correct with that.

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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 25 Oct, 2011 10:09 am
@izzythepush,
The EU hasn't been around since WW2, so that can't be the case.
While I know you hate to admit it, having over 100,000 US troops in Europe has gone a long way to help keep the peace

IMHO, that is what has allowed Europe to prosper like it has, because they haven't had to spend money to defend themselves, they knew we would.
 

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