Where is the US economy headed?

@okie,

Your "thinking" about the ethics of government employees only shows how ignorant you are about human behavior. It's not limited to "government employees," and there's nothing you can do about it. Your worries will get you nowhere, but you love to play that silly game - as if your opinions have any weight or common sense. It doesn't.

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@okie,

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Hey ican and other conservatives, don't you love it, I have exposed one of the leading liberal apologists for radicals here, Cyclops, that he is using university / taxpayer funded office and computer to sit around and post his liberal Democratic talking points all the time

I dont love it, I think you are getting ridiculous now.
Who cares where he is posting from?
Would you have the same problem if he was posting from the public library?

As much as I disagree with Cyclo, about most things, it never occurred to me to worry or care about where he posts from.

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@talk72000,

You do realize that the SecTreas does not have the power to declare martial law, dont you.

From reading the link, it sounds like it was a scare tactic, and a poor one at that.

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@parados,

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The minerals weren't under the ground okie?
Who gave those minerals to the homesteaders? I think you are confused okie because hard work didn't create the minerals nor did hard work by the homesteaders allow them to sell those mineral rights.

Hard work by the homesteader doesn't allow them to lease farmland?

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@okie,

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There was no wealth there until homesteaders put in years of sweat and toil into farming and ranching the land

Well, duh! Wealth only exists because of human activity.

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@okie,

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I have seen cases of a State adding great amounts of land to their state parks system, and all it does is increase management and state expenditures, plus it takes the land out of private ownership, thus reducing the tax revenues taken in to support schools and other state run essentials.

This totally ignores the benefits we all derive from parks. You wrote very recently about your family's trip to the historic sites surrounding Washington, D.C. Those sites are historic parks. Then, of course, there are the parks that preserve and protect animals and the very notion of wilderness which many conservatives want to see abolished in the name of short-term profit.

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@okie,

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I have a friend that works for the state, and he has to have a computer to do his job, to schedule jobs, and to check regs for inspections, etc., but it is strictly for work, thats it. If he has any personal computing to do, he does it at home.

The imaginary friend is a rather common childhood phenomenon.

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@okie,

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If I think ethics are important for government employees, that makes me an extremist?

Are government employees to be held to a higher standard than workers in private industry? Consider Enron. Consider all those companies that allow plastics manufactured in China to include phthalates, which are banned by the EU.

Gee, does a corporation -- most likely, a publicly held corporation -- have the right to poison the American citizenry?

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@mysteryman,

mysteryman wrote:

I dont love it, I think you are getting ridiculous now.
Who cares where he is posting from?
Would you have the same problem if he was posting from the public library?

Some specific answers may be appropriate for these questions. I would probably have no problem at all if it was isolated. However, if it was being done by a group, such as Moveon.org or something, wherein they have a practice of sending lots of people to libraries as part of an organized campaign or program of political lobbying, I think that may need to be looked into. I would presume computers in libraries are intended for research of information, not political operations. My short answer is that librarians should simply be aware of how their computers are being used, and perhaps some guidelines and rules should be instituted, such as no porn, etc.

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As much as I disagree with Cyclo, about most things, it never occurred to me to worry or care about where he posts from.

I never worried about it either, until he volunteered the fact that he does some postings while on the job for the university. That got me to thinking and realizing that an ethical problem may exist.

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@okie,

"Slightly unethical"? Is that anything like slightly pregnant? You are some piece of work.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

"Slightly unethical"? Is that anything like slightly pregnant? You are some piece of work.

There are numerous things that can be described as slightly, etc., but pregnancy is not one of them, ci. Are you denying that some things cannot have degrees to them. If it is hot, it can't be slightly hot, or just lukewarm? For example, taking office supplies home from work, such as an inkpen, is that as bad as robbing the bank? After all, in both cases, you are taking something that is not yours.

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@okie,

In my world, unethical is unethical without degrees.

Definition:

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Adjective

* S: (adj) unethical (not conforming to approved standards of social or professional behavior) "unethical business practices"

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@cicerone imposter,

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In my world, unethical is unethical without degrees.

you are aware I assume that black/white thinking is generally thought a sign of either immaturity or else mental illness....

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@hawkeye10,

I'm guilty of both; but I will never approve of unethical behavior of workers or officers mandated by company rules and regulations of any company as acceptable behavior. If they can't live by the rules, they should leave.

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@wayne,

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Hard work by the homesteader doesn't allow them to lease farmland?

The amount of work the homesteader did has nothing to do with the minerals under their land.

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@parados,

I have not been following closely but I think that you have it correct, by what little that I have read between the 2 of you!

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@okie,

I am a member of the local counsel for Moveon.org which does not send people to local libraries.

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@okie,

Most public library computers are programmed to disable porn sites. Generally, a library card hold signs up for an hour's worth of computer use. Some libraries limit each user to one hour/day. Others allow a user to return after an hour or a two hour hiatus.

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@cicerone imposter,

Maybe, okie has a "little white unethical" in mind.

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stephen Colbert interviews Robert Reich on his new book on the future of the economy:

http://www.colbertnation.com/full-episodes/mon-october-11-2010-robert-reich

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