@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
I did not claim that jobs are a right guaranteed by the Constitution. But I think you will agree with me that the Constitution is not where our rights flow from; it only enumerates certain rights and restrictions upon the government. I personally believe that all people should have a right to affordable housing (it doesn't have to be NICE housing, just affordable) and health care.
Good grief, where do our rights flow from then. God, or is it Obama now? Holy mackerel, I have never read such utter and complete nonsense, cyclops. There is affordible housing now, if you can afford it, you can buy it or rent it, but if you think it is a right for somebody to have the money to buy it or rent it withoug having the money to buy it or pay the rent, I'm sorry but stealing is not a right. And last I checked, buying a house requires the seller to agree to a price and agree to sell it, and renting a house requires a renter to be willing to rent a place to somebody, last I checked, living someplace without paying the rentor for the place what the rentor asks in rent, that is the same as squatting and you will be kicked out or evicted.
Quote:Quote:I realize they are nice, they do contribute to our happiness and we are free to pursue them in a free society, but sorry, they are not rights as guaranteed by the constitution, you need to go back to school and study civics, with a teacher that knows what he or she is talking about.
It's not a question of being 'free to pursue these things.' If these things do not exist, people CANNOT pursue happiness. You can't live a stable and healthy life if you cannot afford health care and lodging, because various factors outside of your control have contributed to make them unaffordable. I believe it is part of our government's mission, to keep the costs of necessities of life such as this from spiraling out of control - which is exactly the situation we find ourselves in today.
Cycloptichorn
They do exist, dummy. But if you are looking for free housing, it might be tougher, and if you are looking for a doctor to provide services for nothing, that might be difficult as well. And it is not the government's mission to control costs of things, it is the government's reponsibility to stay out the peoples business, okay. Keep your nose out of my business, got that, cyclops. Keep your greedy hands to yourself. One of the things government could do that is its business is to reduce the taxes on people so that people would have more money to pay for what they need without the government meddling into their affairs.
Am I the only one here that is tired of the constant whining that life isn't fair, that 0nly the government can make it fair?