Where is the US economy headed?

@cicerone imposter,

So are you saying that it isnt your concern?
Are you saying that you are going to use all of the energy you want to use, irregardless of the consequences?

Damn, you sound like the conservatives you claim to hate now.

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@mysteryman,

He's not going to do anything about the problem MM. His generation has saddled MY generation with a ton of problems.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

I'm not in any position to solve our energy problems. I'm only a consumer.

I have learned early in life that trying to control things I have no control over is a waste of my energy and time.

You sound like another Al Gore. You have all the answers for everyone else, but you are immune to any of it. All of your advice only applies to others, and now you have no answers at all for yourself.

ci, you have resided on this forum far too long spouting your insults without providing one iota of evidence or practical answers. Where the rubber meets the road, you have nothing.

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@mysteryman,

Yes, we do use all the energy we need, but we also try to conserve. We buy low energy bulbs and appliances, and try to turn off heaters and lights when not in use. We have central air conditioning, but rarely use it, because we have double-pane windows and good insulation. However, my Acura does use premium, but as I've said, I drive less than 5000 miles/year.

Anything else?

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@mysteryman,

mm wrote:

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Damn, you sound like the conservatives you claim to hate now

When did I say I hated conservatives? All my siblings are conservatives, and my younger brother was a (R) legislator in California for three terms. LOL

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

We won't know until he does it, can we?

You won't know of course, because you are uninformed.

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It's not that I have any evidence on the success of his plan, but if you refute it can be done, it is you who must provide evidence.

Let me see, if Obama proposes he can build a perpetual motion machine, but has no evidence that he can do it, it is my responsibility to disprove it? Is that how this debate works?

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Are you an expert of energy? I think not; but Obama does have experts who advises him. Who do you rely on for information on energy? Your imagination as usual.

If Obama's experts told you that martians landed at Roswell, would you believe it, because he has "experts" that told him? Are those energy experts a bit like his financial "experts" that can tell everybody else how to pay taxes but don't know how to do it themselves?

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@okie,

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Re: cicerone imposter (Post 3616647)
cicerone imposter wrote:
We won't know until he does it, can we?

okie wrote:
You won't know of course, because you are uninformed.

Misinformed like you? When have you ever said anything right?

It's not that I have any evidence on the success of his plan, but if you refute it can be done, it is you who must provide evidence.

okie wrote:
Let me see, if Obama proposes he can build a perpetual motion machine, but has no evidence that he can do it, it is my responsibility to disprove it? Is that how this debate works?

Another one of your imaginations gone wild

I wrote:
Are you an expert of energy? I think not; but Obama does have experts who advises him. Who do you rely on for information on energy? Your imagination as usual.

okie wrote:
If Obama's experts told you that martians landed at Roswell, would you believe it, because he has "experts" that told him. Are those energy experts a bit like his financial "experts" that can tell everybody else how to pay taxes but don't know how to do it themselves?

The only martians around here is you! You're so out of touch with reality, you must live in another planet.

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@cicerone imposter,

Let me know when you find evidence that Obama can do the 10 year thing, ci. Any credible energy expert or credible source would do. Obama's statements are not enough. Otherwise, I am done with arguing with you. Have a good evening.

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@okie,

okie, You are the one who made the claim it can't be done. I made no such claims one way or the other. It's up to you to show us evidence of "your" claim.

Where did you go to school? You actually got a diploma?

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@cicerone imposter,

Why are you not asking the Obama admin to show evidence that it CAN be done?
After all, Obama did say it could be done, but he has yet to say exactly HOW.

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@mysteryman,

Not in my job description. Besides, I'm retired from "work."

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@cicerone imposter,

I'm curious, what do you get out of these conversations then?

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@maporsche,

Keeps me entertained and learn some new stuff - once in awhile.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Not in my job description. Besides, I'm retired from "work."

So your job description I guess says you swallow anything Obama says, no matter how disconnected from reality or impossible or unfeasible?

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@okie,

Wiseman okie, please explain to us

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how disconnected from reality or impossible or unfeasible

Obama's initiatives are?

Please back up your imagination/opinion with expert economists and financial experts.

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@cicerone imposter,

I just want to know how many of you have "invested" in gold during the past several months?

http://goldprice.org/NewCharts/gold/images/gold_1d_o_USD.png

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Wiseman okie, please explain to us
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how disconnected from reality or impossible or unfeasible
Obama's initiatives are?

In case you missed the conversation, ci, his initiative is to eliminate the need for the U.S. to import cartel oil in 10 years. I've told you that a few times now. Write it down so you don't forget.

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Please back up your imagination/opinion with expert economists and financial experts.

Its his initiative, not mine, and you voted for him, so as I have challenged you many times, provide your evidence, or Obama's, presuming he has some, which he doesn't, but the challenge is for you to show the evidence, ci. I hate to keep repeating it, but you seem to keep forgetting the challenge. Apparently, you have not done your homework yet, as I told you to get on it a while back, to no avail. What have you been doing with all of your time?

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@okie,

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In case you missed the conversation, ci, his initiative is to eliminate the need for the U.S. to import cartel oil in 10 years. I've told you that a few times now. Write it down so you don't forget.

He committed to try. If we try to do things, we just might find that we can do them. If we get 70% of our goal, we're still way better off than today.

I'm sure your version - hell, it could have been you! - equally derided Kennedy's moon challenge. It was also impossible at the time. But it's a good thing we didn't listen to those who tell us we can't do things and instead listened to those who thought we could.

Cycloptichorn

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@okie,

If it's Obama's initiative (where is that written?), why don't you ask him?

I'm presuming he has experts in the field of energy that he confided in to get that info. Where did you get your's?

Besides, that may be a "goal," but we may be somewhat short of that goal. So what? If we reduce our imports from the Middle East and Venezuela, isn't that a good thing? Since when did you become the answer to our national problems?

Are you saying our president shouldn't try to achieve some goals in our use of energy?

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

If it's Obama's initiative (where is that written?), why don't you ask him?

So when you don't have an answer, you just play dumb?

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I'm presuming he has experts in the field of energy that he confided in to get that info. Where did you get your's?

You may have assumed too much, ci. I suggest you check out your assumptions.

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