Where is the US economy headed?

@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

The history is in the "pudding." You're only singing dixie without the music/content.

All you need to do is provide some credible source that supports your imagined contention. Simple.

You say in spite of all the shaming that happens to those who tell alternative versions of the story. One such example was made of Alan Bloom for his work "the closing of the american mind" where he documented the destruction of the university and the waste between the ears that takes place in its students. Defenders of the University and the Feminists ripped him a new one for daring to part from the approved script.

At the end of the day we want to be told fairytales that make us look and feel good..this is the point that JTT drives home over and over again, and he/she is correct. We can no longer handle the truth.

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@hawkeye10,

I really don't care about what individuals say about our economy. Most of them have no clue on what they are speculating on. As with forecasting our economy, most "experts" are wrong.

As for our educational system, our country has been falling behind more countries as the years ago by. That's common knowledge to most folks who have bothered to keep up.

The standardization of our education by No Child Left Behind essentially ruined the education for our children. Some people in education are just beginning to understand that problem.

With the cuts in funding of our education, it's the children who will end up suffering. The cost of college today is getting more impossible for more qualified students, because fees continue to increase almost every year.

That's the wrong direction for our country. Education and infrastructure are necessary expenses for any country to compete in this world.

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@cicerone imposter,

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With the cuts in funding of our education, it's the children who will end up suffering. The cost of college today is getting more impossible for more qualified students, because fees continue to increase almost every year.

That's the wrong direction for our country. Education and infrastructure are necessary expenses for any country to compete in this world.

Are you suggesting that we need a stronger social safety net than what capitalism offers?

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@reasoning logic,

How about spending a little less money on the military and blowing things up and increasing spending on all education.

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@RABEL222,

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How about spending a little less money on the military and blowing things up and increasing spending on all education.

If we did that how could we be seen as the greatest colonial force on earth?

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@RABEL222,

RABEL222 wrote:

How about spending a little less money on the military and blowing things up and increasing spending on all education.

We spend way too much on education already...what we need to do is close about 1/3 of the universities and cut about 1/4 of the staff in the public K-12 schools.

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@RABEL222,

RABEL222 wrote:

How about ... increasing spending on all education.

Why, what good has it done thus far?

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

RABEL222 wrote:

How about ... increasing spending on all education.

Why, what good has it done thus far?

Lets talk about the almost 50% who three years after getting a four year degree( actually five or six for most) are doing either no work or work that requires none of that training? How does this make any rational sense at all?

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@hawkeye10,

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We spend way too much on education already...what we need to do is close about 1/3 of the universities and cut about 1/4 of the staff in the public K-12 schools.

And this will add to our educated work force?

I personally do think that the Internet could help to one degree or another.

I think education should be free to all who care to learn.

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@reasoning logic,

reasoning logic wrote:

And this will add to our educated work force?

I personally do think that the Internet could help to one degree or another.

I think education should be free to all who care to learn.

Are you nuts? Raising expectations that can not be fullfilled is a recipe for chaos. Obama does this all the time. He is a damn fool.

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@hawkeye10,

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Raising expectations that can not be fullfilled is a recipe for chaos

Would you kindly inform me how, what I said would be seen as Raising expectations that can not be fulfilled?

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@reasoning logic,

reasoning logic wrote:

I think education should be free to all who care to learn.

The educated individual knows nothing is free.

Make all education 'for profit' and shut down government schools, they
serve as unionized day care centers and left wing propaganda factories

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@hawkeye10,

You are flat wrong! Individuals grow and learn at different ages. The best any country can do is to provide "free" education to all its citizens to realize the maximum potential for all. Not all children are cut out for college, but countries like Germany provide them with internship programs.

Pre-determined expectations by age are the worst way to treat the majority.

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@cicerone imposter,

We don't have the jobs to offer people who go through training..leading people to expect a standard of living that the nation can not provide is the road to revolution. **** individual rights, national self preservation is at stake here, and is much more impotant.

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@H2O MAN,

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The educated individual knows nothing is free.

Well it is free right here and you may be able to lead your self to it but it does not mean that you will understand it.

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@cicerone imposter,

You are flat wrong! The best this constitutional republic free market
society could do is make all education in this nation for profit.
Schools compete to produce educated individuals.
Kids parents and family assume the responsibility for making damn sure
their tricycle motors get the very best education the family can afford.
As is true in life, there will be winners and losers, some schools will go out of business.
Everybody is equally accountable for the decisions and actions.
All schools profit share funds to a scholarship fund to help brilliant
children go further. Parents of brilliant children will pay their kids way.

Educators and their superiors will be fired if they don't produce.
Parents that are able can pick, choose and switch schools until
they find one that delivers the best education their money can buy.
For profit means schools will pay taxes as all small businesses do.
No tax payer will ever pay a school tax again. The DOE is dissolved.

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@reasoning logic,

reasoning logic wrote:

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The educated individual knows nothing is free.

Well it is free right here and you may be able to lead your self to it but it does not mean that you will understand it.

Illogical... what is your definition of 'free' and where is 'here'?

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@hawkeye10,

Here, hawk, you might learn something from this. BTW Japan's college graduation rate is one of the highest in the industrialized countries.

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The Most Competitive Economies in the World

Japan's population is 127-million.
10. Japan
> GCI score: 5.40
> GDP per capita: $45,920 (18th highest)
> Debt as a pct. of GDP: 229.8% (the highest)
> Individuals using Internet: 79.5% (17th highest)
> Infant mortality rates: 2.4 per 1,000 live births (7th lowest)

Japan has the world’s third-largest gross domestic product and generates large domestic and export demand for the goods and services it produces. According to the WEF, Japan exports a diverse array of products and services from all along the value chain–from low value products to high value goods such as semiconductors and auto parts. The country’s production processes are ranked first in the world for technological sophistication. Japan was ranked second for company research and development spending, one of the leading contributors to innovation, above the U.S., which ranked seventh in this category.

Read more: The World’s Best (and Worst) Economies - 24/7 Wall St. http://247wallst.com/2012/09/07/the-worlds-best-and-worst-economies/#ixzz2SStyfTTF

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@H2O MAN,

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what is your definition of 'free' and where is 'here'?

My definition of free in this sense is the minimal cost for you to be here and to think for yourself.
Here in this place that we call cyberspace which has much more information available at your finger tips than any brick and mortar library a mind could imagine.

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