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Where is the US economy headed?

 
 
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2013 04:06 pm


U.S. economic freedom slipping away
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2013 04:21 pm
@H2O MAN,
Hey, squirt, it's not surprising that you would post such an article that provides no credible source for his opinions. FYI, home and car sales are on the upswing - and so are the stock markets. That simply means that more Americans are confident of their long-term finances.

The only danger facing us is the sequestured spending cuts on March 1st if congress does nothing to approve spending cuts and tax increases.

The GOP don't care how many they hurt for their stance on "no more taxes."
More government workers will lose their jobs which translates into decreased consumer spending.

There's no c.........

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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2013 04:31 pm


America’s Vanishing Economic Freedom
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parados
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 07:18 am
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/images/popular-vote-graphic.jpg
you seem to have an odd idea about what "overwhelmingly" means....


You seem to have an odd idea about who votes. I'll give you a hint, land mass doesn't matter.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 08:25 am


The first step to economic recovery in the US is for Obama
and DC politicians to admit they have a spending problem.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 10:15 am
@H2O MAN,
Wrong again, squirt. In a recession, the government should be spending money to save jobs, improve our infrastructure, and spend money on our schools. They are necessary to remain competitive in the world marketplace.

When government cuts jobs, it means less people are able to buy the goods and services being produced by American workers. That also reflects on reduced sales taxes for all levels of government in addition to less payroll taxes.

Your brain is already drowned and not capable of simple Econ 101 analysis.

Why do you continue to insist you are stupid!
georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 01:23 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Your "Econ 101 analysis" isn't anything to brag about either. Keynesian levelling of economic activity through timing government expenditures to fill recessions and damp excesses, requires government surpluses in good times in order to preclude the growth of debt at a faster rate than GDP. Moreover, none of it works sustainably if government debt approaches 100% of GDP, which is the case now.

The fact is that the economic readjustments needed to correct an economic recession include increasing national economic competitiveness in the world economy. Government handouts and overhead don't help that at all. On the contrary, they inhibit and delay needed readjustment and reallocation of capital in the private economy.

Perhaps you imagine that government employment enables enough increased spending on goods & services to pay for itself. Unfortunately that is not the case. We are also facing a growing long-term financial problem with unfunded and unsustainable federal programs ranging from public entitlements to the pension programs of those same government employees. The numbers involved are very large, and the examples of other major economies seriously in the grip of such problems are many. You can't simply wave all this away.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2013 01:40 pm
@georgeob1,
You wrote,
Quote:
requires government surpluses in good times in order to preclude the growth of debt at a faster rate than GDP.


That most governments are incapable of following your thesis, it must find solutions that will correct the problems currently facing it. What the Euro countries are now facing is based on including countries whose economic products and services are not easily exported or has high enough of a demand for it to sustain it's spending.

The US economy is broad-based, and we have more options in how to correct economic problems.

The GOP's idea that cutting spending and not raising taxes as the solution is not founded in any economic theory.

The best solution is to cut spending that doesn't harm our economy, and increase revenue through taxation.

That you would state,
Quote:
the economic readjustments needed to correct an economic recession include increasing national economic competitiveness in the world economy.


I agree. That's the reason cutting funding for our schools and infrastructure is the wrong way to correct our economic problems.

From the New Republic.
Quote:
Throw in the fact that the Republican budget would not call for massive reductions in defense spending, and you end up with the Center on Budget’s conclusion: Most of the rest of the government would “cease to exist.”

Another way to think about this is in programmatic terms--and what that would mean neglecting. It’d mean massive cuts to all sorts of means-tested programs upon which the poor, in particular, rely. But it’d also mean substantial cuts to investments in public goods, like education and infrastructure. According to Adam Hersh and Sarah Ayres of the Center for American Progress, the end result of the Republican budget would be a 53 percent reduction in per capita spending on education and training, a 28 percent reduction in scientifically oriented research and development, and a 37 percent reduction in transportation infrastructure.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sat 16 Feb, 2013 12:14 pm

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/16916_610222139004437_193319432_n.jpg
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 16 Feb, 2013 12:20 pm
@Region Philbis,

If America's education system was worth a **** we
would have more executives earning executive pay.
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 16 Feb, 2013 06:00 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
The best solution is to cut spending that doesn't harm our economy, and increase revenue through taxation.


I think we might agree on that. What are your suggestions of achieving such a laudable objective?

What spending is harming your economy? Shouldn't those engaged in it be arrested?
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2013 10:15 am


The total lack of leadership from Obama & DC combined with our fragile economy is not a good situation.

What have you done to prepare for the second Obama recession that's just around the corner?
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2013 10:26 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:


If America's education system was worth a **** we
would have more executives earning executive pay.



And nobody would watch Fox News.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2013 10:32 am


The Coming 'Obama Recession' Of 2013
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2013 10:34 am
02-04-2013, Peter Schiff appeared on Russia Today to speak about the poor fourth-quarter GDP numbers and what it means for Obama’s second term.

“I think the Obama recession is going to be much worse than the Obama recovery…I think the US is in worse economic shape. We dug ourselves into a bigger hole since 2008. The next crisis is going to be one where the dollar tanks and bond prices fall. And that’s going to be a much bigger collapse. I think the bursting of the dollar bubble and the bond bubble has much more dire consequences for the US economy than the bursting of the real estate bubble.”
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2013 10:35 am


Taxmageddon Could Cause Another Deep Recession in America
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Advocate
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2013 01:39 pm
The only thing that creates jobs is increased consumer spending. Tax cuts to the corporations and wealthy individuals will produce no jobs.

What got us out of the great depression was massive government spending during and after WWII.

There is quite a bit revenue that would be made available were congress to eliminate tax loopholes. This would not damage the economy and would reduce the deficits. Big cuts to government spending would be a disaster. That spending benefits the middle class, who spend almost all their money. This increases the needed consumption to fuel our economy.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2013 01:46 pm

Across the board tax cuts combined with spending cuts and a
greatly reduced federal government will stimulate our economy.

Raising taxes will only make matters worse.
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parados
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2013 05:47 pm
@H2O MAN,
You mean Peter Schiff who said this in 2009?
Quote:
I know inflation is going to get worse in 2010. Whether it’s going to run out of control or it’s going to take until 2011 or 2012, but I know we’re going to have a major currency crisis coming soon. It’s going to dwarf the financial crisis and it’s going to send consumer prices absolutely ballistic, as well as interest rates and unemployment."

I guess, it's 2013 and he is keeping up the same argument sooner or later he will be right even if it takes 50 years.

You better buy gold Spurt and lots of it.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 17 Feb, 2013 05:54 pm
@parados,
Mr. Green Mr. Green squirt doesn't understand what he's talking about 99% of the time; or is that 99.99% of the time?

Even idiots deserve .01% respect. Mr. Green Mr. Green
 

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