Where is the US economy headed?

@hawkeye10,

Wrong again, kimo sabe. There was planning in our financial security called "saving 15 to 20% of our income when we worked."

Many who have worked, studied, and went into the right professions always do well in any developed country. I'll also admit that "luck" played some part of my success of having worked in management positions for 90% of my working career. I had enough wherewithall to do consulting work during my working years that was very lucrative, and allowed me to buy income property and a partnership in a condo at Incline Village.

It also took hard work - believe it not. Mr. Green

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@cicerone imposter,

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It also took hard work - believe it not.

The lucky ones always claim that. Mr Obarmy rubbished the idea. And quite correctly. The builders of the pyramids worked hard.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

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It also took hard work - believe it not.

The lucky ones always claim that. Mr Obarmy rubbished the idea. And quite correctly. The builders of the pyramids worked hard.

There are a lot of people who work 14 hours a day 7 days a week for $2 a day...CI seems to not understand that he lucked out to follow the WW2 generation in America and to be part of a generation that is so low on morals that they (we) are willing to **** over our kids and grandkids.

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@hawkeye10,

You really don't know the English language very well, do you? I wrote that "luck" played a part in what I was able to accomplish.

You come up with strange assumptions, because you don't know me. When we were kids, we were very poor, and all my siblings and I had to work on farms to make money during the summer months. We harvested all manners of fruits and vegetables - back breaking work.

After I graduated from college and started working, I worked longer and produced more than others in the same company. That's the reason I was rewarded with many pay increases and promotions.

When I was in the USAF, I was awarded Airman for six months at Walker AFB.

No stranger to hard work.

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@cicerone imposter,

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No stranger to hard work

so what, my point is that hard work only occasionally leads to the orgy of consumption which you enjoy which as caused you to not understand America of 2013. for most through history and increasingly most americans now hard work does not, which is why Bill Clinton said:

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I was raised to believe its that the American Dream was built on rewarding hard work. But we have seen the folks in Washington turn the American ethic on its head. For too long, those who play by the rules and keep the faith have gotten the shaft, and those who cut corners and cut deals have been rewarded. People are working harder than ever, spending less time with their children, working nights and weekends at their jobs instead of gong to PTA and Little League or Scouts, and their incomes are still going down. Their taxes are going up, and the costs of health care, housing and education are going through the roof. Meanwhile, more and more of our best people are falling into poverty -- even when they work forty hours a week.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/speeches/clinton.html

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@hawkeye10,

What are you trying to say? That I lived during the best generation in the US was pure luck that our education and opportunities were some of the best the world offered.

I will not apologize for the opportunites provided, and the hard work I put into making a good living.

If you're toughing it out, it's your own fault. Nobody gave me anything on a silver spoon. We worked for it.

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@hawkeye10,

Insider trading is legal in congress, Hawk.

Criminals always gravitate towards the easiest money.

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You cannot read the description of the personal stock trading allegedly conducted by Rep. Spencer Bachus and other members of Congress during the financial crisis and conclude anything other than the following:

Our government is completely corrupt.

Yes, this behavior may be technically legal, because of an absurd loophole that makes insider-trading rules not apply to Congress.

Yes, this behavior may be widespread on Capitol Hill.

But there is no universe in which a reasonable person would consider this behavior ethical or okay. And for the 300+ million Americans who aren't members of Congress, it would be just plain illegal

Many members of Congress seem guilty here, including John Kerry, Dick Durbin, and Jim Moran. But Spencer Bachus takes the cake.

Story here;

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@hawkeye10,

Your claim that "I don't understand America" needs to be proven. You can't.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Your claim that "I don't understand America" needs to be proven. You can't.

says the guy who lives in the silicone valley bubble who spends a tenth of the year polluting the planet while sucking up carbon on joy rides. you remind me of another fella:

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As President Bush travels the country in search of re-election, he seems unable to escape a central problem: This career politician, who has lived the cloistered life of a top Washington bureaucrat for decades, is having trouble presenting himself to the electorate as a man in touch with middle-class life.

Today, for instance, he emerged from 11 years in Washington's choicest executive mansions to confront the modern supermarket.

Visiting the exhibition hall of the National Grocers Association convention here, Mr. Bush lingered at the mock-up of a checkout lane. He signed his name on an electronic pad used to detect check forgeries.

"If some guy came in and spelled George Bush differently, could you catch it?" the President asked. "Yes," he was told, and he shook his head in wonder.

Then he grabbed a quart of milk, a light bulb and a bag of candy and ran them over an electronic scanner. The look of wonder flickered across his face again as he saw the item and price registered on the cash register screen.

"This is for checking out?" asked Mr. Bush. "I just took a tour through the exhibits here," he told the grocers later. "Amazed by some of the technology.

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/05/us/bush-encounters-the-supermarket-amazed.html?src=pm

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@hawkeye10,

8 Million?

Are these the folks being shipped across the Border in the cattle cars or under the cars of tourists in Mexico?

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@tenderfoot,

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and yet for some reason there are 1.2 million more jobs now then there were when Obama took office.

How many of these jobs were created for Mrs Obama and rest of family?
Hair stylis tfor Mrs. O
Colorist for hair of Mrs. O
Face Makeup person for Mrs. O
Personal Triainer/ health consultant for Mrs. O
Personal secretary ( how many?) for Mrs. O
Caretakers for Obama house in Chicago
Guards ( Chicago City Police ) for Obama property in Hyde Park
Guards ( Chicago City Police ) for Mrs Robertson ( Mrs. O's mother) house in Chicago
Lawn care professionals for Obama house in Chicago
Custom-made shirts for President Obama
Custom-made suits for President Obama
Guards in Hawaii for Obama's sister's house
Guards for Obama children while living in DC.
Guards for Obama children while visiting Chicago
Special classes for Obama children while living in White House
Special guards for Mrs Robertson while living in DC

Others:
Many new men and women now deliver the city newspapers
Many adult men now have jobs delivering groceries
New Jobs at Mac Donalds cleaning floors, serving cutomers
New jobs open up every time it snows in Boston, and other cities
New jobs for dog sitters
New jobs for cat sitters
New jobs for plant sitters
New jobs for dog walkers
New jobs for people who'll shop for you for $$

So many new jobs, it just makes you head swirl. All importan jobs to our economy...