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Where is the US economy headed?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 1 Feb, 2013 08:13 pm
@mysteryman,
Goes to show you're more stupid than the dumbest poster on a2k. 25,000 jobs a month will be worse for our economy. You are too dumb to understand.+

Those numbers will guarantee our next depression!
tenderfoot
 
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Reply Fri 1 Feb, 2013 10:18 pm
@mysteryman,
Now I know why you call yourself " mysteryman "

read again --- And yet for some reason there are 1.2 million more jobs now then there were when Obama took office. Reality just seems to bite you in the ass a lot Mysteryman.
tenderfoot
 
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Reply Fri 1 Feb, 2013 10:19 pm
@H2O MAN,
What do you make of this statement Squirt.... please read again and prove it wrong, or ******* shut up.

and yet for some reason there are 1.2 million more jobs now then there were when Obama took office. Reality just seems to bite you in the ass a lot Spurt.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2013 02:12 am
@tenderfoot,
tenderfoot wrote:

What do you make of this statement Squirt.... please read again and prove it wrong, or ******* shut up.

and yet for some reason there are 1.2 million more jobs now then there were when Obama took office. Reality just seems to bite you in the ass a lot Spurt.

considering that we have added 8 million people during the same time that aint great.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2013 06:47 am
@tenderfoot,
I can tell that your panties are twisted into a big nasty wad hammertoe.
You are acting out irrationally and you appear to be emotionally unstable.
Have an adult read it to you again, maybe you will see your mistakes.

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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2013 08:13 am
@tenderfoot,
1.2 million new jobs over 4 years equals 300,000 new jobs a year, that equals 25,000 per month.

Tell me again how my math is wrong.
mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2013 08:15 am
@cicerone imposter,
Do the math yourself than, and show me how my math is wrong.
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parados
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2013 10:31 am
@mysteryman,
That's if you ignore the major job losses in 2009.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2013 11:23 am
@parados,
What these yokels don't understand is that the GW Bush's Great Recession impacted the world's economy. What that means in simple terms is that the demand for US goods and services were reduced with everybody elses. When GW Bush left office, job losses were at their peak. Amazingly enough, even with the world's economy in recession, Obama turned the job numbers into plusses.

Europe is in worse shape than the US.

Those knumbskulls who still don't understand macroeconomics continue to blame Obama for the unemployment numbers.

There's no cure fo........
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2013 11:27 am


Those who still don't understand macroeconomics continue to blame Bush for the unemployment numbers
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2013 12:20 pm
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:

1.2 million new jobs over 4 years equals 300,000 new jobs a year, that equals 25,000 per month.

Tell me again how my math is wrong.

the treading water number is usually given to be 150-180k a month, and we continue the long trend of losing a high percentage of quality jobs but making primarily low paying unrewarding new jobs. Obama has nothing to be happy about here.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2013 12:37 pm
@hawkeye10,
You,
Quote:
the treading water number is usually given to be 150-180k a month, and we continue the long trend of losing a high percentage of quality jobs but making primarily low paying unrewarding new jobs.


Do you have any reliable source that backs up this idiocy? Is that why more people are buying homes and cars now? Factories are producing more products? 49er fans are paying $80k for season tickets at the new stadium in Santa Clara?

Your opinions are not backed up by the "facts." Your "impressions" are usually wrong. Do some research before you mouth off with stupid stuff.

The stock market is up over 4% this year. If people aren't earning enough, why the increase in home and car purchases?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2013 01:00 pm
@cicerone imposter,
http://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/charts/indicators/DPI-overview.html?DPI-per-capita-since-2000.gif
the end of 2012 is skewed because of pre planning for the Washington mess, but even an idiot like you CI can see that incomes have gone nowhere for over half a decade. this is of course during a time where the rich have gotten richer and the poor poorer, so the incomes of a lot of regular people like I serve in my restaurant have gotten substantially worse over the years.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2013 01:07 pm
@hawkeye10,
You know what's really funny, hawk? You can't read your own graph. During this period of the Great Recession, disposable income have been "INCREASING." The evidence is in the US economy where more people are buying homes, home prices are increasing, and more people are buying cars. If you bother to visit the restaurants and the tour industry, they are "increasing." That means more disposable income for more Americans.

Look around you! Even the US stock market is growing by leaps and bounds; that's because even foreign investors know that the US is the country with the potential for future growth.

The Euro has been increasing against the US dollar. Do you know what that means for our exports to Europe?

Naw, you're just too stupid.

You,
Quote:
the end of 2012 is skewed because of pre planning for the Washington mess,


As always, your personal opinion has zero credibility.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2013 01:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
You can't read your own graph. During this period of the Great Recession, disposable income have been "INCREASING.

thankfully the author includes an inflation adjusted line, which has not been going up.

Quote:
As always, your personal opinion has zero credibility.

actually I dont agree with that statement, and this opinion is the authors not mine

Quote:
Personal income in November and December was boosted by accelerated and special dividend payments to persons and by accelerated bonus payments and other irregular pay in private wages and salaries in anticipation of changes in individual income tax rates. Personal income in December was also boosted by lump-sum social security benefit payments

http://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/DPI-Monthly-Update.php
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2013 01:43 pm
@hawkeye10,
You,
Quote:
thankfully the author includes an inflation adjusted line, which has not been going up.


You see, that's the reason why buying power increases. That's Econ 101.

Your last article belongs on the laffer curve; those are factual reasons why incomes increased. Those are "facts" you cannot deny.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2013 03:59 pm

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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2013 04:13 pm
@Region Philbis,
There's over 25 million more beasts to muck and fodder in that period. Just think of all the pants needed for that. And the teeth to be rendered perfect. To say nothing of the er, er er, oh never mind.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2013 04:31 pm
@Region Philbis,
I doubt very much hawk understands "simple" graphs on employment since GW Bush's Great Recession.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2013 05:32 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

I doubt very much hawk understands "simple" graphs on employment since GW Bush's Great Recession.

Nopw show me a graft on the plus and minus of full time equivalent living wage jobs in America....

You will be hard pressed to find one though, as that is too strong a medicine for us Americans. The results are clear to see for those of us who live in the real world though. You CI have been too well off for too long mostly by luck, and no longer have any idea of how most of America lives. The American government/corporate class team is very lucky that there is a new sucker born every minute, as that is the only reason they get so far with their disinformation and propaganda.
 

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