Evolution? How?

Eorl wrote:

Jack of course it's simpler. And you're welcome to it.

And no, we don't all agree there was a beginning.

So then what created infinity?

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Jackofalltrades wrote:

Brandon wrote
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Us: But 1 and 1 is not 3, it's 2. Therefore, your conclusion is wrong.

First you have to use the right mathematical formula 1x1x1=1
The first 1 being God the father
The second 1 being God the Son (Jesus)
and The third 1 Being the God the Holy Spirit
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I don't believe in the trinity... so 1+1+1=3 to me, not 1...

I don't know why you are multiplying...

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Jackofalltrades wrote:

Thanks REX for the reminder of the "Prince of the power of the air". He is a crafty old boy. Look how he" has turned the learned men against God".
BUT I think I found a portion of scripture BOTH sides of the debate can agree on...Genesis1:1(a) In the beginning. Yes there was a beginning, but how did it started is where we divide. I still can't buy the Primordial Ooze thing. It seems too hostile an enviroment for these delicate little protozoa critters to live in. The BIG BANG...where did the bang come from, Who lit the fuse, and the string theory ties me up in knots Yup I guess it is a lot simpler for us unlearned simpletons to just have the blind faith to believe there is a God with out any "proof".

You can believe in life beginning/evolving on the earth and also the beginning of the universe itself and still belive in creation of the Bible...

If you missed some of my replies where I reason this you can check back earlier in this post and read them.

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FM you have really GREAT posts!

I wish I had your knowledge of science....

It takes years of dedication to study and learn so much..

You are truly an asset to this post...

I want to comment specifically on your replies but all I seem to do is look for holes. I see random possibilities. But you seem to be pulling on this tread that is connected to the fabric of this universe. I do not dispute that. I marvel at it... Yet my random mind does seem capable to step back to see a big picture... I do not think we contradict or are at cross purposes to one another but we are different compliments of the same reality.

How about life coming from a foreign particle to the earth? Do you think that is possible? Do you lean more toward life starting on earth or did it start in the universe and come to earth?

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Quote, "How about life coming from a foreign particle to the earth? Do you think that is possible? Do you lean more toward life starting on earth or did it start in the universe and come to earth?" In my limited understanding of science, this proposition has possibilities, but I do not think it can ever be proven - now or in the future. It would be pure speculation.

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Hubble started the Panspermia bandwagon. when ci said that itlle be hard to prove, hes got a point. However. all that does is move the life laboratory to a different building. I have really not ever taken a position that I couldnt be argued out of on this subject.
Theyre gonna be sampling a comet in the next decade orso. I can wait.

I think that holes are fun to punch into hypotheses. It makes the coffee go down so well.

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Now, I'm really confused. LOL

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farmerman wrote:

Hubble started the Panspermia bandwagon. when ci said that itlle be hard to prove, hes got a point. However. all that does is move the life laboratory to a different building. I have really not ever taken a position that I couldnt be argued out of on this subject.
Theyre gonna be sampling a comet in the next decade orso. I can wait.

I think that holes are fun to punch into hypotheses. It makes the coffee go down so well.

Wow! I cannot wait till they sample a comet... (wasn't that thing that unfortunately crashed to earth from NASA a comet sampler?).

Maybe life on earth is a combination of both?

When you figure nano particles bombard the earth from light years away every day. Heat and thermal nuclear reactions and I still think rocks are alive... Smile

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Eorl Wrote

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Glad the bible never got put to any awful purpose, or that would certainly taint that little book of lies even more!....oh wait, crusades....witch burnings...most wars in history.....hmmmm.

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Origin of the Species was published in 1859 (or so), more than half a century before the rise of any communist state.

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Rex, I've read many of your posts and up to this point have not said much. You state that you are a Christian (I think that is what you said), yet you don't take the word of God as infallable. In my mathematical formula I specifically did NOT say any thing about the trinity as some people have a problem with that, but the Bible states there is a Three part God head. Seems all the other Christian "Bible Bangers" have tired of trying to reason with the psudeo scientists and have either left or are lurking in the shadows. Perhaps you have won this battle but the war rages and in the end we will see who prevails. (see Revelations). Hve a nice Eternity re evolving into a perfect being. I wouldn't recommend walking on water for now... Oh I forgot you don't believe in this stuff.

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I tend to think that life started on earth but there is also the suspicion that it came from the universe... I see this then as the earth being an egg and life (sperm) coming in a comet or something similar (rocks are alive hehe). This life coming to the earth is like fertilization of a human egg... If the earth needed to be fertilized then it substantiated the idea that life and the physical universe are somewhat separate entities.. I kind of like the theory of life coming from the universe because it seems to mimic nature but on a physical level...

What say you...?

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Jackofalltrades wrote:

Rex, I've read many of your posts and up to this point have not said much. You state that you are a Christian (I think that is what you said), yet you don't take the word of God as infallable. In my mathematical formula I specifically did NOT say any thing about the trinity as some people have a problem with that, but the Bible states there is a Three part God head. Seems all the other Christian "Bible Bangers" have tired of trying to reason with the psudeo scientists and have either left or are lurking in the shadows. Perhaps you have won this battle but the war rages and in the end we will see who prevails. (see Revelations). Hve a nice Eternity re evolving into a perfect being. I wouldn't recommend walking on water for now... Oh I forgot you don't believe in this stuff.

I do consider myself a Christian... I do believe "the word" (the Holy Bible) is infallible but I think this infallibility is not on the surface but is within... I believe most if not all contradictions are in our understanding... So the Bible (gen to rev) to me is the inspired word and will of God...

This is why I capitalize the word Bible in all of my posts... I also believe in miracles and supernatural phenomenon... But I believe the Bible needs to be studied with the idea in mind that it is perfect within... Only with this standard will the inherent truth be revealed... This is not to interject the truth into the Bible but to let it speak it's own "truth" which brings salvation.

Peace with God...

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RexRed said

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What say you...?

Genesis1:1 In the beginnig God created...

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Jackofalltrades wrote:

RexRed said
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What say you...?

Genesis1:1 In the beginning God created...

What beginning?
The beginning of the universe?
The beginning of the earth/sun?
The beginning of humans/life?

I believe Gen 1:1 is talking about all three... but in time these things change... the universe expands... the sun forms the planets/earth is impregnated by life.. humans evolve...

Gen 1:1 is different then let there be light.. God did not have to create light because he created it in Gen 1:1 so he just spoke "back" it into being...

God did not have to create the earth and the heaves in Eden because he created them in Verse 1:1... Most people read over Genesis 1:1 and do not realize it is a "different" heaven and earth then the one in Eden a few verses later...

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In my mathematical formula I specifically did NOT say any thing about the trinity as some people have a problem with that, but the Bible states there is a Three part God head. Seems all the other Christian "Bible Bangers" have tired of trying to reason with the psudeo scientists

"Mathematical formula". WowJack, I really must have missed something here.,whats your formula attempting to quantify? if youd stop trying to be so damn full of yourself and leave other people to their own interpretations without your smug self righteousness maybe thered be something to even discuss with you .Rex is attempting to justify his strong Christian belief in light of scientific findings. Why be judgemental ? Weve got a lot of the Pharisees here and it aint from the evolution scientists
I was raised Catholic and was practicing even while I was earning grad degrees.I lost all faith later.

The Catholic Church "In view of the insurmountable mountains of evidence" embraced evolutionwhen I was in grade 2 in the late 50sand againas a College Directive by Pope John PaulII . I was always amazed at how many religions could live and thrive in lig.ht of scientific discovery, and yet, others, who , like you Evangelicals and the AMISH, just stick their HEADS IN THE SANDS AND TRY TO DENY THE EVIDENCE. I do look at your movement with contempt, not only for the sought after special legislation that it sneakily seeks, but for the cynical and fraudulent means that your world leaders like AIG, Discovery, Cornerstone,ICR <ISC,and Liberty College's founder, bilk the elderly and poor to fill your gangs coffers.

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Jackofalltrades wrote:

Rex, I've read many of your posts and up to this point have not said much. You state that you are a Christian (I think that is what you said), yet you don't take the word of God as infallable. In my mathematical formula I specifically did NOT say any thing about the trinity as some people have a problem with that, but the Bible states there is a Three part God head. Seems all the other Christian "Bible Bangers" have tired of trying to reason with the psudeo scientists and have either left or are lurking in the shadows. Perhaps you have won this battle but the war rages and in the end we will see who prevails. (see Revelations). Hve a nice Eternity re evolving into a perfect being. I wouldn't recommend walking on water for now... Oh I forgot you don't believe in this stuff.

The Bible states that there are three but God is the head not "God head"...

1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

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Aw, well, it just reinforces the prejudices this native Sonoran had of the flatlanders down in Oakdale...

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patiodog wrote:

Aw, well, it just reinforces the prejudices this native Sonoran had of the flatlanders down in Oakdale...

Sounds interesting can you expound a bit more?

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Jackofalltrades is from a town (Oakdale, CA) that is about half an hour from where I grew up (Sonora, CA). Sonora's in the Sierra Nevada foothills. Oakdale is down in the valley. A natural (and very mild) antipathy.

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