aperson
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 12:41 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
You're too modest; you would have done many things differently. God's success rate for fauna is less than 5 percent; about 95 percent are now extinct.


Heres a tree diagram of life on earth, alive and extinct.

http://tolweb.org/Life_on_Earth/1
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 04:59 am
Actually, the extinction rate is 99.95% , not 95%.
As Raup said
"Much of the good feeling about planet earth stems from the certainty that life has existed without interruption for almost 3 billion years. Almost all species in the past failed. If they died out gradually and quietly and if they deserved to die because of some adaptive inferiority, then our good feelings about earth can remain intact. But, if they died out violently and without having done anything wrong, then our planet may not be such a safe place"--

Just some thought about safety and how our gods protect us,perfect for a beautiful Sunday morning.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 07:24 am
What was revealed with that bait was how conflicted RL is -- it is an anachronism he cannot solve. The chicken comes before the egg and God is free range. Try not to fall into any more traps.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 08:11 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
It's not god's evolution after all....



And you have proof for this statement?
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 08:36 am
aperson wrote:
real life wrote:
Lightwizard wrote:
God has also been equated to Edison -- apparantly he/she/it is a trial-and-error research and development engineer. What's his biggest mistake, considering what life form has done the most damage on Earth, to flora and fauna and to themselves? Evolution has the answer, religion has failed miserably in providing the answer other than some whistling-in-the-dark wishful thinking. God is creative in the way the Ash Can school of art was creative -- putting crap together to make more crap. Really requires a great deal of talent.


You seem a bit conflicted, Lightwiz.

If evolution is responsible for life as we now see it (including the absence of the many species that are now extinct), then it is evolution that has failed you miserably.

And evolution has caused the most damage to flora and fauna, since it is (in your view) evolution that produced mankind.

Everything man is, results from evolution, right?

So anything man does in an attempt to survive is part of evolution, right?

If other species can't stand up to man, then too tough. It's survival of the fittest, right?

How can you blame God for something you claim to believe that evolution has caused?


Evolution is responsible for damage to flora and fauna, and the birth of mankind, but (in you view) God is responsible for everything, and so he is responsible for evolution.


God needs only to look at the beginning and end result of evolution to endorse it. Have less capable species actually died or been incorporated into the species that have survived? All creatures eventually die. The success of a species is based upon the will of the species not the will of God. The will of God is served only by the ultimate outcome which God has predicted. Humans not only carry the genes for the successful creatures but the less successful creatures too.

Just because humans do not have scales for skin does not mean that with one flip of a DNA switch we could not grow them so nothing has actually died things have just changed from within.

Rocks, plants and some animals may be (are) more intelligent than humans...

Evolution is intelligence moving from the physical (rocks) to the biological (humans). Nothing really dies or is lost because the intelligence is equally divided between the physical and biological. If a creature has less biological intelligence then they exhibit more physical intelligence.

Like a dogs sense of smell and hearing are physical intelligence that humans do not have (to the same degree) because we have more biological intelligence...
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 08:47 am
The earth is a clock.

Humans are a clock.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:02 am
You are a clock because I have a vision in my mind of you sitting there ticking.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:03 am
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/291/5502/226b

http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/1999/07.15/bioclock24.html

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/biological_clocks/index.html?offset=10&


These clocks are passed down from all species and they clocks have just simply been reset for different species.

Time is a second hand and an hour hand that spin in Pi. Time is a spiral that each pause in time has infinity within it.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:05 am
RexRed wrote:
The earth is a clock.

Humans are a clock.

Well, it would seem that if you're a clock, you're wound too tight.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:06 am
Lightwizard wrote:
You are a clock because I have a vision in my mind of you sitting their ticking.


Smile

I ring on the hour...
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:14 am
timberlandko wrote:
RexRed wrote:
The earth is a clock.

Humans are a clock.

Well, it would seem that if you're a clock, you're wound too tight.


Na, I am more a digital clock charged by spiritual energy... I play to another drum... I hear another beat in time.

It is the pulse of the living.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:20 am
Laughing RL's mainspring has just sprung. Puck is having a laugh attack.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:29 am
I don't see that real life has really sprung any springs. He should be commemorated for not doubting the Bible. It is just the way that things all fit together are convoluted. RL is right, God did do something to this earth in seven days of Eden.. Eden is maybe not the time that God actually created the heavens and the earth but God most certainly did create his image in Adam within that seven day period. That is why we are here talking about it today...

Time was obviously created before this, in the "beginning"...
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:31 am
There's gears and springs strewn all over your PC keyboard -- I'm sure that's why you find it difficult to type coherently.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:32 am
Eden is the only thing that explains why humans did in six thousand years what they could not do in millions of years.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:33 am
Laughing
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:39 am
An anachronism that will stand as the most ridiculous ever laid down on paper (well, PC paper). You really need to take some creative writing classes, after a course in English 1.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:40 am
RexRed wrote:
Just because humans do not have scales for skin does not mean that with one flip of a DNA switch we could not grow them so nothing has actually died things have just changed from within.


In a very real sense, there is only one form of life on this planet; DNA. And it never dies.

All the other forms of life we see are just titles we give to arbitrary combinations of DNA.

Some of those combinations however, no longer exist. They are extinct. Most things change, but not everything survives.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:40 am
The lord taketh away and the lord giveth back again... Smile
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 09:45 am
rosborne979 wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Just because humans do not have scales for skin does not mean that with one flip of a DNA switch we could not grow them so nothing has actually died things have just changed from within.


In a very real sense, there is only one form of life on this planet; DNA. And it never dies.

All the other forms of life we see are just titles we give to arbitrary combinations of DNA.

Some of those combinations however, no longer exist. They are extinct. Most things change, but not everything survives.


So you will say that DNA is living material even though it is only a sequence of numbers?
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