Evolution? How?

Thank you.

May I ask how you think we got here?

I know alot of people think it doesn't matter, but it is something worth discussing if nothing else.

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Here is a summary of Darwin's theory:

Adaptation: all organisms adapt to their environments.
Variation: all organisms are variable in their traits.
Over-reproduction: all organisms tend to reproduce beyond their environment's capacity to support them (this is based on the work of Thomas Malthus, who studied how populations of organisms tended to grow geometrically until they encountered a limit on their population size).
Since not all organisms are equally well adapted to their environment, some will survive and reproduce better than others -- this is known as natural selection. Sometimes this is also referred to as "survival of the fittest". In reality this merely deals with the reproductive success of the organisms, not solely their relative strength or speed.

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I'm the other one wrote:

May I ask how you think we got here?

What makes you think "we got here"?

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Chumly wrote:

I'm the other one wrote:
May I ask how you think we got here?
What makes you think "we got here"?

LOL, then why are we here? How?

You two are intelligent beings, I know you can tell me. Very Happy

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Now, be gentle, folks - for all we know, other one's retirement program may rest on the recovered value of the teeth beneath the pillow.

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Eorl wrote:

Here is a summary of Darwin's theory:

Adaptation: all organisms adapt to their environments.
Variation: all organisms are variable in their traits.
Over-reproduction: all organisms tend to reproduce beyond their environment's capacity to support them (this is based on the work of Thomas Malthus, who studied how populations of organisms tended to grow geometrically until they encountered a limit on their population size).
Since not all organisms are equally well adapted to their environment, some will survive and reproduce better than others -- this is known as natural selection. Sometimes this is also referred to as "survival of the fittest". In reality this merely deals with the reproductive success of the organisms, not solely their relative strength or speed.

I know you don't think I've read any of that before, but I've read alot. How did we start out you think?

BTW, thanks for answering me. :wink:

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other one, the answer is not as simple as you'd like but let's start with pre-human earth.

I am 99.9% sure that we (humans) evolved from pre-human beings like homo-erectus.

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timberlandko wrote:

Now, be gentle, folks - for all we know, other one's retirement program may rest on the recovered value of the teeth beneath the pillow.

This shall a nice conversation. I just know it will. I'm willing to listen for a change.

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I'm the other one wrote:

Chumly wrote:
I'm the other one wrote:
May I ask how you think we got here?
What makes you think "we got here"?

LOL, then why are we here? How?

You two are intelligent beings, I know you can tell me.

What makes you think there is a reason why we are here?

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Eorl wrote:

other one, the answer is not as simple as you'd like but let's start with pre-human earth.

I am 99.9% sure that we (humans) evolved from pre-human beings like homo-erectus.

Like the big headed beings? With fur?

homo-erectus?

Sounds kind of kinky for some reason.

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Chumly wrote:

I'm the other one wrote:
Chumly wrote:
I'm the other one wrote:
May I ask how you think we got here?
What makes you think "we got here"?

LOL, then why are we here? How?

You two are intelligent beings, I know you can tell me.
What makes you think there is a reason why we are here?

I don't know. Isn't everything for a reason?

I'm not talking about reason as we have a mission either. I mean reason as in...oh...I'm not sure the word I'm looking for, drats.

So you think maybe we "just exist" or are an illusion or something else?

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I doubt its illusion, simply for the fact the math works so exquisitely well. Perhaps it is a personal shortcoming, but I find it exceedingly, even insuperably, difficult to argue against logic.

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I have to agree with that. You're so insightfull.

I recall hearing of people who think we are an illusion and aren't realy here. The Matrix portrays this too I think.

But I do like that movie.

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I like that movie too, though its sequels, as so often is the case, so far have failed to meet the original promise. Still, Ms. Moss in Spandex tights easily is worth the cost of a video rental.

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I'm the other one wrote:

Chumly wrote:
I'm the other one wrote:
Chumly wrote:
I'm the other one wrote:
May I ask how you think we got here?
What makes you think "we got here"?

LOL, then why are we here? How?

You two are intelligent beings, I know you can tell me.
What makes you think there is a reason why we are here?

I don't know. Isn't everything for a reason?

I'm not talking about reason as we have a mission either. I mean reason as in...oh...I'm not sure the word I'm looking for, drats.

So you think maybe we "just exist" or are an illusion or something else?

In the small picture it appears as if some things have a reason, as cause and effect appear real, but I know you are talking about the big picture. Man has a very hard time grasping that there no known reason for anything, but that is the facts, as things stand now.

It is also important to understand that there is no defined need for a reason for anything in the big picture, things can simply be without reason. Yuppers I know that is counterintuitive and frustrating because our brains want to find purpose and intent in all things.

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I'm the other one wrote:

I don't know. Isn't everything for a reason?

No. Maybe that's where our philosophies part ways? Right there.

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timberlandko wrote:

I like that movie too, though its sequels, as so often is the case, so far have failed to meet the original promise. Still, Ms. Moss in Spandex tights easily is worth the cost of a video rental.

LOL...and Canoe Reeves. That's what I use to call him.

They always hold the delivery back from the previews. Like a pizza commercial.

Have you seen Constatine?

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No, I haven't seen Constantine .. I've read of it, and intend to catch it on satellite, but its not a priority.

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Chumly wrote:

I'm the other one wrote:
Chumly wrote:
I'm the other one wrote:
Chumly wrote:
I'm the other one wrote:
May I ask how you think we got here?
What makes you think "we got here"?

LOL, then why are we here? How?

You two are intelligent beings, I know you can tell me.
What makes you think there is a reason why we are here?

I don't know. Isn't everything for a reason?

I'm not talking about reason as we have a mission either. I mean reason as in...oh...I'm not sure the word I'm looking for, drats.

So you think maybe we "just exist" or are an illusion or something else?
In the small picture it appears as if some things have a reason, as cause and effect appear real, but I know you are talking about the big picture. Man has a very hard time grasping that there no known reason for anything, but that is the facts, as things stand now.

It is also important to understand that there is no defined need for a reason for anything in the big picture, things can simply be without reason. Yuppers I know that is counterintuitive and frustrating because our brains want to find purpose and intent in all things.

I know that to be true. I can't help but get deeper in thought and contemplate life alot. It's after 2 am here and I need to hit the sack, so, yes...I do think too much. That's my problem.

Are you satisfied knowing that we will feed the worms after death? Or..it doesn't matter because we've served our purpose here...living life.

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Eorl wrote:

I'm the other one wrote:

I don't know. Isn't everything for a reason?

No. Maybe that's where our philosophies part ways? Right there.

Yea, lol.

Sorry, words are getting fuzzy.

G'Night everyone who I talked to!

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