spendius
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2005 01:54 pm
timber-

If ID-iot is okay parlance for IDer is it alright if some of us use SOD for SDers?(Scientific On-your-own Design.)Say.

I'll direct my brain cells and maybe come up with something better.I'll practice my return of serve.

I have developed a little line of thought which suggests that SODs who don't support the war are schizoid.Or that don't support the tax regime as well.And a number of other things.

Is Biodeisel a tax avoidance scheme because if it is you want to get over here with it as we pay miles more tax than you do on motor fuel.A gallon of deisel is about $7 and most of that is tax.$6+.
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 10:03 am
Should we expect anyone to defend the scientific value of creationism? The religiousness doesn't bother me as much as the simple fact that creationism is scientifically worthless.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 11:06 am
If there were no religion, creationism would not exist. All man's creation by imagination. Isn't it interesting that there are no women writers of the bible? Is god a gender bigot?
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thunder runner32
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 11:09 am
If there was no creation, you would not exist.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 11:15 am
The fact that I do only speaks to the fact that as an animal, evolutionary theory and other sciences explain much. Creation is a belief system based on religion and nothing more.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 11:28 am
C.I.,

If you understood anything about the Bible you would be able to answer that question yourself. And, I find being a religious bigot just as tasteless as you would a gender bigot.

And since man is fallible I would say there is a great propensity for science to also be fallible.
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 12:44 pm
Man is an intelligent being with free will. right?

To what point might intelligent beings with free will eventually evolve?

Give yourself a few zillion years or so.

Just another ignorant question.
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yitwail
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 12:57 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
If there were no religion, creationism would not exist. All man's creation by imagination. Isn't it interesting that there are no women writers of the bible? Is god a gender bigot?


it would be more accurate to say there are no known women writers of the Bible, since many of the books do not specify an author.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 02:09 pm
yitwail, Your right, ofcoarse! But considering the fact that the bible was written at a time when women were considered second class citizens, it's not surprising. Even god failed to acknowledge that discrimination.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 02:25 pm
Actually, credible argument may be made for the female authorship of both the Book of Ruth and the Book of Esther. Evidence exists as well for a female hand in some redaction. Still, there's no mistaking The Bible for a female manifesto.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 02:27 pm
timber, Two out of 66 ain't too bad - considering.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 02:35 pm
How apposite that a tendentious thread on a scientific subject first deposited (like a ripe, steaming turd) in the religion and spirituality forum, has devolved (all puns intended) into a discussion of biblical authorship (as well as authority) . . .
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 02:38 pm
Whatever floats to the top ....
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 02:39 pm
Don't blame me. Blame CI. Laughing
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 03:04 pm
The God of the Bible is the author of the Bible.

Though the Bible is a testimony of how humankind has perceived God over time. So it is not always accurate as to who God really is but it is accurate as to what humans were able to perceive spiritually throughout history.

Ultimately, we find that God is the embodiment of both male and female.

Otherwise, the Bible would have never have referred to God in the feminine also... Yet, it does.

Even Genesis attributes motherly nurturing qualities to God...

"And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the deep"...

In the original Hebrew this verse reads as a mother bird nurturing her eggs, waiting for them to hatch...

Smile
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 03:09 pm
Floating yet another idea, RexRed wrote:
"And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the deep"...

In the original Hebrew this verse reads as a mother bird nurturing her eggs, waiting for them to hatch...

Smile


May I suppose you can provide link to a referrence for that contention? It would be appreciated were you to do so.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 03:10 pm
I trust you are not holding your breath . . .
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 03:18 pm
timber wrote-

Quote:
Still, there's no mistaking The Bible for a female manifesto.


Jeeps!Do you mean that timber or is it another of your ironic bon-mots.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 03:45 pm
timberlandko wrote:
Floating yet another idea, RexRed wrote:
"And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the deep"...

In the original Hebrew this verse reads as a mother bird nurturing her eggs, waiting for them to hatch...

Smile


May I suppose you can provide link to a referrence for that contention? It would be appreciated were you to do so.


Actually I can't provide a link...

It is just one of the arbitrary things I have been taught and believed. It may be wrong but I doubt it.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 04:15 pm
NP, Rex - I hadn't gotten my hopes very high in the matter. In all, I'd say your response fully met my expectations.
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