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committed or not committed?

 
 
nokujin
 
Reply Sat 26 Feb, 2005 05:08 am
my girlfriend and i have been going out over a year now. whenever she's with me everythings so spectacular. i could not ask for more. she says she is committed to me and cares so much about me and so she gives me the attention i need like any boyfriend would deserve. people think we're so perfect together that we'll eventually get married. HOWEVER the problem is whenever she is with her other friends (guys and girls) she gives them the same amount of attention, not in a sexual way, but as far as attention.

for example one of her guy friends invited her for a weekend trip to vegas so she agreed. bad thing is the only reason why i know is because i over heard her inviting her other friends to come along. she failed to mention anything to me as if i was just some other friend she hardly sees. and she knows i love vegas. its the same way when her guy friends invite her to clubs, or events, or parties that she knows that i would love.

basically she tries JUST as hard to go see them, spend time with them, call them, etc. so whenever she isnt with me she makes me feel like im just another one of her friends and nothing more. but when she is with me we're a rockin couple. so now it SEEMS like the only reason why she hangs out with me more than her other friends is just because thats what boyfriends/girlfriends are suppose to do. just like saying, "bless you" after someone sneezes just because thats what you're suppose to do and not because you want to.

so either she is lying to me and she really doesnt care for me like she claims, or she does care for me but wants an excuse to see other people. a really bad thing is one of the guys she hangs out with is her "long time love, will never forget him, he will always have a spot in my heart," ex-boyfriend. but i suppose he is another story.

i havent communicated all this with her yet so this is starting to grow on me and its starting to show in my reations towards her. the only reason why i havent told her is because im afraid she'll only pretend to fix it but behind my back wont. i say this because she has done some instances like it in the past.

my question is: what shall i do? im afraid to confront her for fear of her pretending to fix the problem. i cant keep it in forever. another reason why i havent told her is because i figure she'll eventually change without me having to say anything, but im not sure that'll happen soon.

should i breakup with her? it seems like she is meant to roam free. should i tell her what i feel and try to make it work? should i not say anything a little longer? i dont know anymore and i think im starting to go crazy. this letter is long enough as it is. ARGH!!!
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Sat 26 Feb, 2005 06:01 am
Consider Robert Browning: My Last Duchess

That's my last Duchess painted on the wall,
Looking as if she were alive. I call
That piece a wonder, now: Frà Pandolf's hands
Worked busily a day, and there she stands.
Will't please you sit and look at her? I said
"Frà Pandolf" by design, for never read
Strangers like you that pictured countenance,
The depth and passion of its earnest glance,
But to myselfthey turned (since none puts by
The curtain I have drawn for you, but I) 10
And seemed as they would ask me, if they durst,
How such a glance came there; so, not the first
Are you to turn and ask thus. Sir, 'twas not
Her husband's presence only, called that spot
Of joy into the Duchess' cheek: perhaps
Frà Pandolf chanced to say "Her mantle laps
Over my Lady's wrist too much," or "Paint
Must never hope to reproduce the faint
Half-flush that dies along her throat": such stuff
Was courtesy, she thought, and cause enough 20
For calling up that spot of joy. She had
A heart -- how shall I say? -- too soon made glad,
Too easily impressed; she liked whate'er
She looked on, and her looks went everywhere.
Sir, 'twas all one! My favour at her breast,
The dropping of the daylight in the West,
The bough of cherries some officious fool
Broke in the orchard for her, the white mule
She rode with round the terrace -- all and each
Would draw from her alike the approving speech, 30
Or blush, at least. She thanked men, -- good! but thanked
Somehow -- I know not how -- as if she ranked
My gift of a nine-hundred-years-old name
With anybody's gift. Who'd stoop to blame
This sort of trifling? Even had you skill
In speech -- (which I have not) -- to make your will
Quite clear to such an one, and say, "Just this
Or that in you disgusts me; here you miss,
Or there exceed the mark" -- and if she let
Herself be lessoned so, nor plainly set 40
Her wits to yours, forsooth, and made excuse,
--E'en then would be some stooping, and I choose
Never to stoop. Oh sir, she smiled, no doubt,
Whene'er I passed her; but who passed without
Much the same smile? This grew; I gave commands;
Then all smiles stopped together. There she stands
As if alive. Will't please you rise? We'll meet
The company below, then. I repeat,
The Count your master's known munificence
Is ample warrant that no just pretence 50
Of mine for dowry will be disallowed;
Though his fair daughter's self, as I avowed
At starting, is my object. Nay, we'll go
Together down, sir. Notice Neptune, though,
Taming a sea-horse, thought a rarity,
Which Claus of Innsbruck cast in bronze for me!

You and your lady love need to do some serious talking.
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BorisKitten
 
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Reply Sat 26 Feb, 2005 10:29 am
I'd talk to her about your feelings...and personally I don't think most people would be overjoyed with this sort of behavior.

I don't think she'll change by herself, and she may not change to keep your relationship, but she has a right to know she's hurting you with her actions. She can only "fix it" if she knows about it.

So a discussion like, "When you do this, I feel like this..." may be a good start.

Best of luck to you, and welcome to A2K!
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Tenoch
 
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Reply Sat 26 Feb, 2005 12:00 pm
I think this sounds like she has too many friends. A person only has so much time to give to people. I knew a girl like yours who would be all stressed out all the time cause she always tried to give equal attention to all of her best friends. The problems was she had like 10 of them and a boyfriend. She was afraid that if she didn't give her friends the same attention on a constant basis they would think she was a sellout or stuck up.
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Sat 26 Feb, 2005 12:09 pm
I almost never go anywhere without telling my man where I'm going -- but, we've been in a committed relationship for several years and we live together. It's a common courtesy to tell your loved one where you're going so they don't come home to an empty house and sit there and wonder and worry all night because you're missing.

But . . . your situation is different. You have a young, boyfriend and girlfriend dating relationship. Your girlfriend doesn't feel the need to include you in her plans or to even tell you about her plans with other people. Clearly, the level of commitment is LOW to nonexistent.

She enjoys spending time with you; but you're not the center of her universe. She enjoys spending time with lots of people.

Some people are social butterflies. They need a lot of people in their lives to feel complete as a human being. Your girlfriend may be a social butterfly. She may be too young and too involved in having the "time of her life" to give you the level of commitment that you desire.

For most people, as they grow older, priorities change. Your girlfriend simply isn't ready, at this point in her life, to make you her number 1 priority. She might tell you that she's committed to you, but her actions speak louder than her words. Based on her actions, her commitment level to you is only a notch above no commitment at all.

If she isn't giving you the level of commitment that you need to be happy in the relationship, then you have a choice to make. You can't change her. That option is out of the question. You can tell her how you feel, but you can't cage a free spirit. You can choose to accept her the way she is and stay in the relationship (knowing that you're not her number 1 priority) or you can move on with your life.
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nokujin
 
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Reply Sun 27 Feb, 2005 03:24 pm
thank you for all your replies. im a little more clear headed now that ive heard a few opinions.

Noddy24 and BorisKitten, you guys are right im going to plan a serious talk about how i feel. and i wont do it in a way were i make it sound like i want to change her.

Debra_Law: in some ways she is a free spirit. too young to be committed to anyone. she is turning 23 and loves to go dancing, however on the other hand she graduated magna cum laude and is serious about her career and relationship. its too bad that you're not around to see it in person because a lot of her time IS dedicated to our relationship. i could give examples to show how committed she can be... when she doesnt think of her close friends. yes i agree its a young relationship and im not thinking of marriage, at least not within the next few years. its just ive never been in a relationship where the girl can be one thing and total change whenever she is with certain friends.

a good example of her is Tenoch's example. in fact she has indirectly told me that she is exactly what Tenoch explained. to tell you the truth i think she was traumatized a few times in a row. here is why: in high school she only hung around her close friends (mostly guys) and one of them happen to be her "long time love, will never forget him, he will always have a spot in my heart," now ex-boyfriend. since they were all a year older she was depressed and alone in her senior year because they had already graduated. when college came she was traumatized again and now had to leave her friends AND family. then after college it hit her again when she moved back home when she left her close college friends. till this day she talks about those situations all the time. see now the bad thing is i was never a part of any of that. i happened to met her through a martial arts class, something not relating to her traumatized situations.

i guess ill have a serious talk about my feelings but i dont know if that'll help her trauma. thats why im afraid. im afraid she'll now be confused. not only she'll have to please her friends but now she has to worry about my feelings. ill talk it through with her, but like you guys said i wont try to change her.

i think this now leads into something else. what do i do with her "long time love, will never forget him, he will always have a spot in my heart," now ex-boyfriend??????????? is it healthy to have a girlfriend who is committed to you but will always love her ex-boyfriend???
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Sun 27 Feb, 2005 04:26 pm
It all depends . . .

I still LOVE my ex-husband and he will always have a spot in my heart. BUT, there is NO WAY in heck that I would ever go back to him. That door is CLOSED. Well, SLAMMED SHUT and LOCKED. The key has been thrown away.

It's okay to still love people you had past relationships with . . . but, hopefully your girlfriend shut that relationship door for good.
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BorisKitten
 
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Reply Sun 27 Feb, 2005 05:31 pm
Debra has it right, nokujin. You can't do a darned thing about any past relationship of your SO's, period. It's up to them to let you know It's Over, or It's Not Over.

Pretty much everyone has loved before, and it's certainly not a fault in a person.... in fact it's a good sign, that they know how to love. But if she goes on & on about how great he was, how much she misses him now, whatever, the red flag should go up.

A big ole' sit-down is in order here. Let her know these things are important to you by scheduling your talk in advance. It's OK to ask her how she feels... about your relationship, her ex, her friends, everything, as long as you don't just keep asking without listening to the answers. And from your posts, I doubt you'll be doing that!

Best of luck in everything!
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