@Sam560,
NB. Meditational practices such as 'samadhi' involve the
disolution of 'self ' which is considered to be illusory, rather than
finding the self.
[In his rejection of such formal prescriptive meditational practices and their religious trappings. Krishnamurti argued that nonjudgemental self observation was the initial key to 'communing with nature', and all 'striving' involving a particular methodology was self defeating, involving an element of self hypnosis].
The problem with advocates of particular practices is that they are attempting to
describe the ineffable ...an oxymoron which results in 'oddball word salad'. Such attempts are basically a form of proselyitisation in order to reinforce their own position.