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rufio
 
Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2005 06:46 am
I've always wondered - is this the correct version of this idiom? I've heard "all intents and purposes," "all extents and purposes," "all extensive purposes," and left to my own devices, I tend to say "all intensive purposes." Intents and purposes sounds the most like something vaguely grammatical to me, but I still haven't a clue what it's supposed to mean anyway, outside of idiomatic use. I would use it to mean "essentially" or "effectively" or something to that effect, but what's the actual construction here? "For all intents and purposes.... it is?" Something like that? I never thought about it, because it's not really a phrase you see written down a lot.
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Bekaboo
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2005 08:31 am
I personally say "to all intents and purposes"... i could naturally be wrong... but it just makes more sense to me!
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rufio
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2005 02:06 pm
Anyone know for certain?
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2005 03:20 pm
here's what Dictionary.com has to say... "all intents and purposes"
Quote:
n.
Something that is intended; an aim or purpose. See Synonyms at intention.
Law. The state of one's mind at the time one carries out an action.
Meaning; purport.

adj.

Firmly fixed; concentrated: an intent gaze.
Having the attention applied; engrossed: The students, intent upon their books, did not hear me enter the room.
Having the mind and will focused on a specific purpose: was intent on leaving within the hour; are intent upon being recognized.
In every practical sense.
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George
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2005 03:27 pm
alt.usage-english.org has this to say:

"to all intents and purposes"

This cliche (meaning "practically") is a shortening of the legal
phrase "to all intents, constructions, and purposes" (found in an
act adopted under Henry VIII in 1547). The corruption "for all
intensive purposes" is frequently reported.
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rufio
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2005 10:35 pm
Ahhh, thanks George. That's interesting... it does sound a bit like legalese now that I think about it.
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