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gun permission in USA

 
 
Reply Sun 4 Mar, 2018 05:44 am
Do you think that gun permission in the USA should be abolished?
 
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fresco
 
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Reply Sun 4 Mar, 2018 08:03 am
@oralloy,
But uncivil dispositions which jeoporize the liberty of others should be expunged.
Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 4 Mar, 2018 01:12 pm
The pro-gun lobby has an all too often hidden agenda, which is the idiotic assumption that they, with their little pop guns, can stave off government tyranny. These are people who are not living in the real world. In cases such as The United States versus Miller (1939) and The District of Columia versus Heller (2008), the Court clearly underlined the right of the Congress to regulate firearms, and delimited the reach of the second amendment into the issue of gun control. The gun nuts were ecstatic over Heller, because they didn't read it carefully. The fact remains that the alleged civil liberty of gun ownership is restricted, as should be clear from the opening clause of the second amendment: A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state . . . . The problem of gun control in the United States is a problem which derives from the amount of money people are willing to throw at it, and the National Rifle Association seduces with millions in campaign contributions, while threatening with the ire of their membership.

The recent slaughter in a Florida high school, however, and the resultant militancy and politecal activism of the students there may well be the thin end of the wedge which will drive the NRA out of their position of undue influence. One can only hope.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 4 Mar, 2018 03:37 pm
@Setanta,
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The recent slaughter in a Florida high school, however, and the resultant militancy and politecal activism of the students there may well be the thin end of the wedge which will drive the NRA out of their position of undue influence. One can only hope.


The students were made politically activists, sponsored by movie people, organizers of the Womens March, and various left wing think tanks. If you want people that young and have not lived on their own to make our decisions for us I think you have a problem.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 4 Mar, 2018 03:39 pm
@oralloy,
-4 against civil liberties? Something is terribly wrong here.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 4 Mar, 2018 05:02 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
The pro-gun lobby has an all too often hidden agenda, which is the idiotic assumption that they, with their little pop guns, can stave off government tyranny. These are people who are not living in the real world.

I always hear this issue raised from the Freedom Hater camp. I don't hear much talk about it on the pro-freedom side.

However, human history indicates that guerrilla warfare is not at all easy for conventional forces to defeat.


Setanta wrote:
In cases such as The United States versus Miller (1939) and The District of Columia versus Heller (2008), the Court clearly underlined the right of the Congress to regulate firearms, and delimited the reach of the second amendment into the issue of gun control. The gun nuts were ecstatic over Heller, because they didn't read it carefully.

No. We were ecstatic about Heller because we understood it completely.

The government has always been able to place restrictions on rights. But only when those restrictions can be justified with a good reason.

The Heller ruling means the eventual end of all the laws that have no reason other than to violate our rights, and that is what we want.


Setanta wrote:
The recent slaughter in a Florida high school, however, and the resultant militancy and politecal activism of the students there may well be the thin end of the wedge which will drive the NRA out of their position of undue influence. One can only hope.

Hoping that civil rights organizations will fail to protect our rights is Orwellian.

However, thankfully this Orwellian hope is in vain. The NRA is doing just fine.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 4 Mar, 2018 05:12 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
-4 against civil liberties? Something is terribly wrong here.

Liberals hate civil rights.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 4 Mar, 2018 05:59 pm
@oralloy,
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Liberals hate civil rights.


Very true, unless it is the protected class du jour, the rest of us not so much.
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klaudiczq
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2018 02:27 am
@fresco,
Thank you for your answer.
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klaudiczq
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2018 02:31 am
@coldjoint,
I am grateful for your opinion.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2018 11:43 am
@klaudiczq,
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I am grateful for your opinion.


Thank you. That is what I am here for, just like anyone else. A lot of people do not understand that.
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