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HILLARY CLINTON GETS RELIGION & AN AK47

 
 
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Tue 1 Feb, 2005 02:20 pm
No, nobody can know what a person's motives are or what drives him/her or whether or not a change of heart is heartfelt or, as you say, political opportunism. All we have to go on is history and a track record. Hillary's is not one of conservative values and it will take a lot of conservative VOTES, not rhetoric, to convice those on the right that she is anything other than the liberal she has always been.

Would, however, that those on the left were as tolerant and willing to give the benefit of the doubt to President Bush as Princess seems to wish the Right to extend to Hillary. President Bush's track record has been pretty darn consistent for a lot of years now.
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princesspupule
 
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Reply Tue 1 Feb, 2005 06:57 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
No, nobody can know what a person's motives are or what drives him/her or whether or not a change of heart is heartfelt or, as you say, political opportunism. All we have to go on is history and a track record. Hillary's is not one of conservative values and it will take a lot of conservative VOTES, not rhetoric, to convice those on the right that she is anything other than the liberal she has always been.

Would, however, that those on the left were as tolerant and willing to give the benefit of the doubt to President Bush as Princess seems to wish the Right to extend to Hillary. President Bush's track record has been pretty darn consistent for a lot of years now.


Oh, I'm VERY willing to give him the benefit of a doubt on his sincerity! He claims to be a born-again christian, and he was a drinker before and a tea-totaller now. But there are a number of born-again christians in fundamentalist churches across America who gave up one addiction only to fill it with another: religion. That doesn't make me feel especially comfortable.

And I will grant you his track record is consistant: he's about the stupidest man ever to be elected president! His latest moment proving his idiocy: telling the CBC he knows nothing of the voting rights act! http://www.chicagodefender.com/page/local.cfm?ArticleID=381
Many examples are availble of his consistant ignorance of things relevent to being the president. Then there are his pronunciation gaffs and his vocabulary gaffs! Compare that to Hillary's consistant track record for being up to speed on topics at hand, of knowing her stuff, of simply being a smart and educated woman. I'm incredibly tolerant of him and his gaffs considering how frequently he makes a fool of himself in the course of performing his job. Our credibility in the international community has dropped considerably during his terms in office. I only hope we can recover with whomever follows in his footsteps!
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Tue 1 Feb, 2005 07:17 pm
You judge people on very different criteria than I judge people Princess. I prefer my criteria, and thus we probably have no common ground on which to discuss this.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Tue 1 Feb, 2005 08:15 pm
I'm not a Hillary fan, but I hope she's feeling better. I did manage to see part of a speech she gave to some group on TV the other night. She mentioned "God" a lot and I didn't realize it at the time, but I was counting LOL. I stopped after she said it (God) five times. Was pretty funny.

The thing I think most people in this country will have a hard time with is her softened stance on abortion, given her voting record - especially on partial-birth abortion. That's going to be hard to reconcile and she's hardly "born again" since her press secretary recently said she's a long-time Sunday school teacher, and rarely misses her prayer group meetings.

I think I'd have more respect for her if she'd just stick to what she obviously believes in. Perhaps she'll realize it if she starts getting negative feedback from her own party.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Tue 1 Feb, 2005 11:36 pm
Yeah posted back on Page 1 was this:



She won't get away with pretending she is something she is not any more than John Kerry did with anybody who cares whether their candidate actually holds the convictions s/he professes. But she has four years to turn over a new leaf, amend her voting record along with explanations for why she is changing her mind, and she could pull it off. (Especially if the Dems think Barbara Boxer is a viable candidate Smile)
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2005 06:59 pm
Birth control pills excluded from isnurance coverage; Viagra approved for Medicare; and Hillary's spending her time giving speeches and visiting bases these days. Republicans oppose condoms? The 2008 election is shaping up to be velly interesting.

February 3, 2005

Margaret Carlson:

Sex, Politics and President Hillary
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2005 10:58 pm
Well, if she's spending all her weekends visiting military bases, when is she teaching her Sunday school classes? Her "handlers" need to get their stories straight LOL.

I have to wonder if Ms. Carlson is perhaps "misunderestimating" the "glee set" in seeing through the smoke screen Hil has created for her new "positions". Who here, for instance, doubts for one second that she would undo every conservative law or appointment if she could.

That the mere mention of her getting the nomination puts a smile on most right-thinkers should send up a huge red flag to the dems - DO NOT underestimate the common folks!

That said, I would LOVE to see a Clinton/Boxer ticket - which would undoubtedly assure us our first 50 state win. Smile

Foxy - let's start a "Conservatives for Boxer '08" focus group!!! LOL!

OT - I heard today that Teresa Heinz has dropped the "Kerry" from her name. She said she only added it while her husband was running for Prez. Ouch.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2005 12:05 am
Clinton/Boxer in 2008 huh? That really has possibilities. As the writer of the just-posted article says, if Hillary wants the nomination, she will get it. There seems to be doubt in nobody's mind that she's gearing up for a campaign. Okay, I can keep my tongue in my cheek long enough to push a Clinton/Boxer ticket. Smile
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