Global Warming...New Report...and it ain't happy news

Mortkat wrote:

Is it because Pauling did not graduate from Oregon State but rather Oregon Agricultural College.....

In the 137 years since it's founding as a Land Grant College, Oregon State University was in fact once known as Oregon Agricultural College.

So what? It is the same institution. A fine one, by all indications. And Linus Pauling, a two time Nobel Prize winner, did indeed graduate from there.

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Mortkat wrote:

I do not know of or have every read anything offered by Mr. Ed Brook....

A fact of no significance to this conversation, or anyone except yourself.

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Revisiting Walter's post:

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Ed Brook, a professor of geosciences at Oregon State University, who analysed the research, said: "Not long ago we thought that previous ice studies which go back about 500,000 years might be the best we could obtain. Now we have a glimpse into the past of up to 650,000 years, and we believe it may be possible to go as much as one million years or more."

He added: "The levels of primary greenhouse gases such as methane, carbon dioxide and nitrous oxide are up dramatically since the Industrial Revolution, at a speed and magnitude that the Earth has not seen in hundreds of thousands of years. There is now no question this is due to human influence."

Source

I think it is wonderful that we have real, actual scientists on the job performing the hard work of getting to the bottom of these issues. Where would we be without them?

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650,000 years is 1% (one-per-cent) of the total years elapsed since deinosaurs tramped around the planet!!!!

What can this professor hope to prove with his 1% 'specially since at the time of the big lizards our planet's atmosphere had CO2 levels FAR FAR higher than TODAY????

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Louise_R_Heller wrote:

at the time of the big lizards our planet's atmosphere had CO2 levels FAR FAR higher than TODAY

Now, how would you know that? You're not that old, are you?

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The atmospheric composition of our planet is known within reasonable confidence intervals all the way back to 4.5 billion years ago ---

Maybe "Old Europe" is older than that?? Smile

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source?

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Source? Where do I start, that the earth is a sphere? Have you no internet lookup sources -- - or are you too, too lazy to look it up under "paleogeology"????

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Make claims, provide sources. That's how to play the game.

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Got to run, OE, but FYI I'm a biologist by training.....

Oxygen came much later, the planet was mostly methane, CO2 and other greenhouse gases for most of its existence --- will look it up and come back with links tomorrow if you're incapable of finding any Smile

edit to post script the planet's atmosphere was... etc

idiotproofing the text Smile

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Oh, you mean before life actually began to evolve on this planet? Well, you might be right. Glad the climate has changed since. But then, you were talking about the days of the dinosaurs, right?

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http://zelos.zeit.de/bilder/2005/48/aktuell_online/teaser_artikel/kursbuch162_200.jpg

Ritter, Tod und Teufel ...... Smile

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louise : is that the "kursbuch" for the federal german railways ? hbg

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Louise_R_Heller wrote:

Ritter, Tod und Teufel ......

Actually, there's nothing at all related to climate in this edition of Kursbuch, edition N° 162, but glad you mentioned it.

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Sorry! Of COURSE there's nothing about the climate or about the trains in that edition!

I was being very esoteric. Also I liked the cover very much. Sorry for the confusion.

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Louise R. Heller's comment on the necessity to refer to Paleogeology is well taken.

earth.usc.edu/geo/150/variability/co2.html

There were two items that caught my attention more than anything else in this link.

l. MOST OF THE DISCUSSIONS ON VARIOUS ITEMS ENDED IN QUESTIONS. THERE WAS NO CONSENSUS.

2. THE WARMING EFFECTS OF THE SUN WERE AGAIN BROUGHT FORWARD AS A POSSIBLE AGENT IN GLOBAL WARMING.

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Thank you Mortkat, but could you please re-post the link?

As promised reverting with info for Old Europe

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Centre for Atmospheric Science, University of Cambridge
Information provided by Dr Glenn Carver. Email: [email protected]
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Contacting the above-named professor will give you detailed historical series for our planet's atmospheric composition.

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I usually make copies of my links, Louise_R_Heller, but for some reason, I cannot locate the correct link at this time.

However, I can tell you that according to the research done by the prestigious National Academy of Sciences, "uncertainty" is the key word in most of the so called predictions concerning "global warming"; its precise genesis and its effects on the earth's weather.

Dr. Sallie L. Baliunas, who was the Deputy Director of the Mount Wilson Observatory and has devoted her life's work to the study of the sun's electromagnetic effects can be easily found on Google. She is one of the main proponents of the Sun's increased solar magnetism.

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Quote:

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20051129/global_hot_air.php

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Brad deLong wrote:

Our chances of ensuring a more sustainable world would be higher if we had not allowed ourselves to be blinded for the past decade by the combination of the public relations stunt known as the Kyoto Treaty and the idiocy-as-usual known as the Bush administration.

That's why I like Brad deLong.

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