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Iran's safe! Nothing to look at here.....

 
 
JustWonders
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2005 06:40 pm
They're coming unhinged Smile

Iran Says US Waging "Psychological War" on Tehran

Iran's Information Minister Ali Younessi said in Tehran Sunday that threats issued by US officials were part of a psychological war waged on Iran.


"The Americans issued those statements to influence ongoing nuclear talks between Iran and the Europe," Younessi told reporters, according to the official IRNA news agency.



Meanwhile, Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi also said in the capital Sunday that threats recently hurled by US officials against his country are part of a psychological war aimed at exerting pressure on Europe to tow the US line.


Speaking at his weekly press briefing, Asefi said that the United States actually wants Europe to fail in its talks with Iran.


"American accusations (against Iran) are not new. Washington wages psychological wars against Iran every now and then. Militarism is the main reason behind those remarks.


"No country listens and even European states and President Bush`s comrades have rejected those remarks and consider them to be declarations of all-out war against the whole world," Asefi said, according to IRNA news agency.


He further said that remarks of this kind are clear examples of a desire to wage religious and cultural wars against supporters of other religions and cultures, adding that they will bear no fruit except hatred at US policies at the regional and international levels as well as isolation for the United States.


Asked to comment on remarks by officials of the Zionist regime that the US was preparing for attacks on Iranian nuclear facilities, he said, "Remarks by US and Zionist officials are two sides of a coin and reinforce the Islamic Republic`s view that US policies are actually dictated by Tel Aviv because the Zionist lobby in the United States is very powerful."


"If the United States wants to strengthen its position in global affairs, it has no choice but to get rid of Zionist lobbyists."


"Iran has enough power and defense capability to resist threats," he stressed, adding "The Islamic Republic of Iran will not be threatened or coerced by such threats."


Shifting to the reports of a possible US military attack on Iran, Asefi said, "In politics it does not make sense to make predictions, but actually we see no real possibility of an attack on Iran."


"These remarks and accusations are but attempts to wage a psychological war. A military attack on Iran is improbable unless the one who contemplates such attack desires to commit a strategic mistake."


Referring to the ongoing dialogue with the Europeans on Iran`s nuclear program, the spokesman said that expert committees to work at various levels were set up last week and negotiations are proceeding favorably.


"We achieved our primary goals in the political committee. The economic committee placed Iran`s demands on the European agenda and the nuclear committee held comprehensive discussions toward extracting tangible guarantees from both sides.


"Iran`s proposals for continuing with its nuclear energy programs and for completing a fuel cycle were explained in the meeting."
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au1929
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2005 06:49 pm
Just wonders
Who is it that is becoming unhinged? Question
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2005 08:14 pm
JustWonders wrote:
They're coming unhinged Smile
You're right. The truth doesn't need that much denial. The boy cried wolf and Ali Younessi spilled his coffee springing to attention! That, is what George Bush brought to the table.
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jan, 2005 11:22 pm
And here's Condi, ever the diplomat....

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Rice said U.S. differences with Iran go well beyond its nuclear program.

"It's really hard to find common ground with a government that thinks Israel should be extinguished," she told senators. "It's difficult to find common ground with a government that is supporting Hezbollah and terrorist organizations that are determined to undermine the Middle East peace that we seek."

Beyond that, Rice listed Iran among six "outposts of tyranny."

source


Hello CONDI!!! Have you heard of a place called Pakistan?? They want to do all those things, and they HAVE THE BOMB!! And they sell the technology to ANYONE!! Lob a coupla live rounds into Islamabad while you're setting the world to rights!
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jan, 2005 11:27 pm
Cat And Mouse Game Over Iran

by Richard Sale, UPI Intelligence Correspondent
New York (UPI) Jan 26, 2005


The U.S. Air Force is playing a dangerous game of cat and mouse with Iran's ayatollahs, flying American combat aircraft into Iranian airspace in an attempt to lure Tehran into turning on air defense radars, thus allowing U.S. pilots to grid the system for use in future targeting data, administration officials said.

"We have to know which targets to attack and how to attack them," said one, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The flights, which have been going on for weeks, are being launched from sites in Afghanistan and Iraq, and are part of Bush administration attempts to collect badly needed intelligence on Iran's possible nuclear weapons development sites, these sources said, speaking on condition of strict anonymity.

"These Iranian air defense positions are not just being observed, they're being 'templated,'" an ad ministration official said, explaining that the flights are part of a U.S. effort to develop "an electronic order of battle for Iran" in case of actual conflict.

However, a Pentagon spokesman told UPI he was unaware of any such actions.

"We are not aware of any incursions into Iranian air space," said Cdr. Nick Balice, chief of media at the U.S. Central Command.

In the event of an actual clash, Iran's air defense radars would be targeted for destruction by air-fired U.S. anti-radiation or ARM missiles, he said.

A serving U.S. intelligence official added: "You need to know what proportion of your initial air strikes are going to have to be devoted to air defense suppression."A CentCom official told United Press International that in the event of a real military strikes, U.S. military forces would be using jamming, deception, and physical attack of Iran's sensors and its Command, Control and Intelligence (C3 systems).

He also made clear that that this entails "advance, detailed knowledge of the enemy's electronic order of battle and careful preplanning."


http://www.spacedaily.com/news/iran-05c.html
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2005 09:20 am
IRANIAN SOURCE REPORTS PLOT TO ATTACK U.S. NUKE


WASHINGTON [MENL] -- Congress has been pressing the U.S. intelligence community to investigate claims by an Iranian defector that Teheran planned to crash an airliner into a nuclear reactor in the United States.

Several members of Congress were said to have been alarmed by the information and one has met with CIA senior officials to press for an investigation. So far, the CIA has refused to question the Iranian defector, a former senior official in the 1970s.

Rep. Curt Weldon, vice chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, has met the unidentified defector several times in Paris over the last 22 months. Weldon said the defector has been accurate in predicting several important developments in the Iranian regime since February 2003. The developments were said to have included those in Iran's nuclear weapons programs and support for Al Qaida.

The informant, dubbed Ali, was said to have been in contact with two dissidents in the inner circle of the Islamic republic. They were said to have reported a secret government directive by Iranian supreme leader Ali Khamenei who presided over the nation's strategic weapons programs and financed and controlled groups deemed terrorists.

http://www.menewsline.com/about_us.html
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au1929
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2005 09:37 am
JustWonders

Some people never learn. Didn't we get enough misinformation from the Iraqi expatriates and defectors? "We will be greeted with flowers." They forgot to mention that the flowers would be loaded with explosives.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2005 09:50 am
au1929 wrote:
JustWonders

Some people never learn.


I agree.

Just ask Joe Biden.

SEN. BIDEN, IRAN MINISTER CLASH OVER NUKES
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au1929
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2005 10:25 am
PARIS: Iran is shaping up as the most serious diplomatic challenge for President George W. Bush's second term, and conflicting pronouncements by Bush and his national security team have left Iran's leadership frustrated and angry about the direction of American policy and the Europeans more determined than ever to push Washington to embrace their engagement strategy..
To the outside world, the administration seems divided over whether to promote the overthrow of the Islamic Republic of Iran, perhaps by force, or to tacitly support the negotiating approach embraced by the Europeans. .
That approach implicitly recognizes Iran's legitimacy because it would give concrete benefits to Iran if the country permanently stopped key nuclear activities..
"You need to get everybody to read from the same page, the Europeans and the Americans," said Mohamed ElBaradei, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, in an interview in Davos, Switzerland, on Friday..
"This is not a process that is going to be solved by the Europeans alone," ElBaradei said. "The United States needs to be engaged. If you continue to say they are going to fail, before you give them a chance, it will be a self-fulfilling policy.".
Michel Barnier, the foreign minister of France, echoed those remarks during an interview in Paris on Friday..
"I cannot explain American policy to you," he said. "That would be French arrogance and I am not someone who is arrogant. But I think that the Americans must get used to the fact that Europe is going to act. And in this case, without the United States, we run the risk of failure.".
France, Germany and Britain - with European Union support - opened negotiations last month that could give Iran generous rewards in the areas of nuclear energy, trade and economic concessions and political and security cooperation if Iran guarantees that it is not developing a nuclear weapon..
The negotiations flow from Iran's voluntary decision last November to temporarily freeze its programs to make enriched uranium, which is useful for producing energy or for making bombs..
But instead of embracing the initiative, Bush began his second term with a sweeping pledge to defend the United States and protect its friends "by force of arms, if necessary" and a statement that he did not rule out military action against Iran..
In the Senate hearings on her nomination as secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice did not say no when asked whether the United States' goal was to replace the Islamic Republic..
Vice President Dick Cheney has put Iran at the "top of the list" of the world's trouble spots and suggested that Israel might attack Iran militarily because of its nuclear program. Those words, combined with a report in The New Yorker magazine that secret Pentagon operations were under way in Iran to prepare lists of targets for possible military action, have left the impression - particularly in Tehran - that Iran might be the next Iraq..
"Madness" is how President Mohammad Khatami of Iran described that approach, while his foreign minister, Kamal Kharrazi, dismissed the talk of a military strike as "psychological warfare." .
Unlike the American-led Iraq war, which Britain joined and France and Germany opposed, the Iran crisis has drawn the three countries together against possible military plans by the United States or by Israel against Iran..
"This is a hotbed region, the last thing we need is a military conflict in that region," Chancellor Gerhard Schröder of Germany said in Davos on Friday. "I'm very explicit and outspoken about this because I want everybody to know where Germany stands.".
Foreign Secretary Jack Straw of Britain also has strongly criticized a possible military attack on Iran as "inconceivable." But, in a sign that the Bush administration may be trying to moderate its warlike rhetoric, "the issue of a military option wasn't raised" during his talks with Rice and other officials this week, Straw told the BBC..
Still, there are other confusing signals emanating from Washington. At one point in her confirmation hearings, Rice suggested that the United States implicitly supported the European negotiating approach, saying that the Bush administration is "trying to see" if it will produce concrete results..
But Rice also repeated a threat to haul Iran before the Security Council for censure or possible sanctions, and specified that even a complete stop to Iran's nuclear and missile programs would not translate into American support for a policy of engagement and incentives..
There were "other problems" that precluded such an approach: "Terrorism, our past, their human rights record," she said..
Further complicating the picture is that in a news conference in late December, Bush uncharacteristically admitted the limits of American power. "We're relying upon others, because we've sanctioned ourselves out of influence with Iran," he said..
The Europeans have made the determination that any negotiation - however flawed - that slows and perhaps eventually even halts Iran's nuclear program is better than the alternatives put forward by the United States..
"Is this approach free of risks? No," Javier Solana, the European Union's foreign policy chief, said in a telephone interview. "Does it have a guarantee of success? No. But at this point in time it is the only game in town, no doubt about that. The other options are worse." .
Some senior Iranian officials make the same point. "The West has suspicions about our nuclear program; we have suspicions of the Europeans," said Mohammad Javad Zarid, the Iranian ambassador to the United Nations and a key negotiator with the Europeans..
Speaking in a telephone interview, Zarid said, "We are eager to use any possible avenue to resolve those suspicions. That's why we have had the pragmatism to understand that the European game is a very serious game. Washington has yet to understand that the European game is the only game in town."
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2005 10:35 am
Hersh:

(It's long)

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THE COMING WARS
by SEYMOUR M. HERSH

What the Pentagon can now do in secret.

Issue of 2005-01-24 and 31

Posted 2005-01-17

George W. Bush's reëlection was not his only victory last fall. The President and his national-security advisers have consolidated control over the military and intelligence communities' strategic analyses and covert operations to a degree unmatched since the rise of the post-Second World War national-security state. Bush has an aggressive and ambitious agenda for using that control?-against the mullahs in Iran and against targets in the ongoing war on terrorism?-during his second term. The C.I.A. will continue to be downgraded, and the agency will increasingly serve, as one government consultant with close ties to the Pentagon put it, as "facilitators" of policy emanating from President Bush and Vice-President Dick Cheney. This process is well under way.

Despite the deteriorating security situation in Iraq, the Bush Administration has not reconsidered its basic long-range policy goal in the Middle East: the establishment of democracy throughout the region. Bush's reëlection is regarded within the Administration as evidence of America's support for his decision to go to war. It has reaffirmed the position of the neoconservatives in the Pentagon's civilian leadership who advocated the invasion, including Paul Wolfowitz, the Deputy Secretary of Defense, and Douglas Feith, the Under-secretary for Policy. According to a former high-level intelligence official, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld met with the Joint Chiefs of Staff shortly after the election and told them, in essence, that the naysayers had been heard and the American people did not accept their message. Rumsfeld added that America was committed to staying in Iraq and that there would be no second-guessing.

"This is a war against terrorism, and Iraq is just one campaign. The Bush Administration is looking at this as a huge war zone," the former high-level intelligence official told me. "Next, we're going to have the Iranian campaign. We've declared war and the bad guys, wherever they are, are the enemy. This is the last hurrah?-we've got four years, and want to come out of this saying we won the war on terrorism."

Bush and Cheney may have set the policy, but it is Rumsfeld who has directed its implementation and has absorbed much of the public criticism when things went wrong?-whether it was prisoner abuse in Abu Ghraib or lack of sufficient armor plating for G.I.s' vehicles in Iraq. Both Democratic and Republican lawmakers have called for Rumsfeld's dismissal, and he is not widely admired inside the military. Nonetheless, his reappointment as Defense Secretary was never in doubt.

Rumsfeld will become even more important during the second term. In interviews with past and present intelligence and military officials, I was told that the agenda had been determined before the Presidential election, and much of it would be Rumsfeld's responsibility. The war on terrorism would be expanded, and effectively placed under the Pentagon's control. The President has signed a series of findings and executive orders authorizing secret commando groups and other Special Forces units to conduct covert operations against suspected terrorist targets in as many as ten nations in the Middle East and South Asia.

The President's decision enables Rumsfeld to run the operations off the books?-free from legal restrictions imposed on the C.I.A. Under current law, all C.I.A. covert activities overseas must be authorized by a Presidential finding and reported to the Senate and House intelligence committees. (The laws were enacted after a series of scandals in the nineteen-seventies involving C.I.A. domestic spying and attempted assassinations of foreign leaders.) "The Pentagon doesn't feel obligated to report any of this to Congress," the former high-level intelligence official said. "They don't even call it ?'covert ops'?-it's too close to the C.I.A. phrase. In their view, it's ?'black reconnaissance.' They're not even going to tell the cincs"?-the regional American military commanders-in-chief. (The Defense Department and the White House did not respond to requests for comment on this story.)

In my interviews, I was repeatedly told that the next strategic target was Iran. "Everyone is saying, ?'You can't be serious about targeting Iran. Look at Iraq,'" the former intelligence official told me. "But they say, ?'We've got some lessons learned?-not militarily, but how we did it politically. We're not going to rely on agency pissants.' No loose ends, and that's why the C.I.A. is out of there."

For more than a year, France, Germany, Britain, and other countries in the European Union have seen preventing Iran from getting a nuclear weapon as a race against time?-and against the Bush Administration. They have been negotiating with the Iranian leadership to give up its nuclear-weapons ambitions in exchange for economic aid and trade benefits. Iran has agreed to temporarily halt its enrichment programs, which generate fuel for nuclear power plants but also could produce weapons-grade fissile material. (Iran claims that such facilities are legal under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, or N.P.T., to which it is a signator, and that it has no intention of building a bomb.) But the goal of the current round of talks, which began in December in Brussels, is to persuade Tehran to go further, and dismantle its machinery. Iran insists, in return, that it needs to see some concrete benefits from the Europeans?-oil-production technology, heavy-industrial equipment, and perhaps even permission to purchase a fleet of Airbuses. (Iran has been denied access to technology and many goods owing to sanctions.)

The Europeans have been urging the Bush Administration to join in these negotiations. The Administration has refused to do so. The civilian leadership in the Pentagon has argued that no diplomatic progress on the Iranian nuclear threat will take place unless there is a credible threat of military action. "The neocons say negotiations are a bad deal," a senior official of the International Atomic Energy Agency (I.A.E.A.) told me. "And the only thing the Iranians understand is pressure. And that they also need to be whacked."

The core problem is that Iran has successfully hidden the extent of its nuclear program, and its progress. Many Western intelligence agencies, including those of the United States, believe that Iran is at least three to five years away from a capability to independently produce nuclear warheads?-although its work on a missile-delivery system is far more advanced. Iran is also widely believed by Western intelligence agencies and the I.A.E.A. to have serious technical problems with its weapons system, most notably in the production of the hexafluoride gas needed to fabricate nuclear warheads.

A retired senior C.I.A. official, one of many who left the agency recently, told me that he was familiar with the assessments, and confirmed that Iran is known to be having major difficulties in its weapons work. He also acknowledged that the agency's timetable for a nuclear Iran matches the European estimates?-assuming that Iran gets no outside help. "The big wild card for us is that you don't know who is capable of filling in the missing parts for them," the recently retired official said. "North Korea? Pakistan? We don't know what parts are missing."

One Western diplomat told me that the Europeans believed they were in what he called a "lose-lose position" as long as the United States refuses to get involved. "France, Germany, and the U.K. cannot succeed alone, and everybody knows it," the diplomat said. "If the U.S. stays outside, we don't have enough leverage, and our effort will collapse." The alternative would be to go to the Security Council, but any resolution imposing sanctions would likely be vetoed by China or Russia, and then "the United Nations will be blamed and the Americans will say, ?'The only solution is to bomb.'"

A European Ambassador noted that President Bush is scheduled to visit Europe in February, and that there has been public talk from the White House about improving the President's relationship with America's E.U. allies. In that context, the Ambassador told me, "I'm puzzled by the fact that the United States is not helping us in our program. How can Washington maintain its stance without seriously taking into account the weapons issue?"

The Israeli government is, not surprisingly, skeptical of the European approach. Silvan Shalom, the Foreign Minister, said in an interview last week in Jerusalem,with another New Yorker journalist, "I don't like what's happening. We were encouraged at first when the Europeans got involved. For a long time, they thought it was just Israel's problem. But then they saw that the [Iranian] missiles themselves were longer range and could reach all of Europe, and they became very concerned. Their attitude has been to use the carrot and the stick?-but all we see so far is the carrot." He added, "If they can't comply, Israel cannot live with Iran having a nuclear bomb."

In a recent essay, Patrick Clawson, an Iran expert who is the deputy director of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (and a supporter of the Administration), articulated the view that force, or the threat of it, was a vital bargaining tool with Iran. Clawson wrote that if Europe wanted coöperation with the Bush Administration it "would do well to remind Iran that the military option remains on the table." He added that the argument that the European negotiations hinged on Washington looked like "a preëmptive excuse for the likely breakdown of the E.U.-Iranian talks." In a subsequent conversation with me, Clawson suggested that, if some kind of military action was inevitable, "it would be much more in Israel's interest?-and Washington's?-to take covert action. The style of this Administration is to use overwhelming force?-?'shock and awe.' But we get only one bite of the apple."

There are many military and diplomatic experts who dispute the notion that military action, on whatever scale, is the right approach. Shahram Chubin, an Iranian scholar who is the director of research at the Geneva Centre for Security Policy, told me, "It's a fantasy to think that there's a good American or Israeli military option in Iran." He went on, "The Israeli view is that this is an international problem. ?'You do it,' they say to the West. ?'Otherwise, our Air Force will take care of it.'" In 1981, the Israeli Air Force destroyed Iraq's Osirak reactor, setting its nuclear program back several years. But the situation now is both more complex and more dangerous, Chubin said. The Osirak bombing "drove the Iranian nuclear-weapons program underground, to hardened, dispersed sites," he said. "You can't be sure after an attack that you'll get away with it. The U.S. and Israel would not be certain whether all the sites had been hit, or how quickly they'd be rebuilt. Meanwhile, they'd be waiting for an Iranian counter-attack that could be military or terrorist or diplomatic. Iran has long-range missiles and ties to Hezbollah, which has drones?-you can't begin to think of what they'd do in response."

Chubin added that Iran could also renounce the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. "It's better to have them cheating within the system," he said. "Otherwise, as victims, Iran will walk away from the treaty and inspections while the rest of the world watches the N.P.T. unravel before their eyes."



The Administration has been conducting secret reconnaissance missions inside Iran at least since last summer. Much of the focus is on the accumulation of intelligence and targeting information on Iranian nuclear, chemical, and missile sites, both declared and suspected. The goal is to identify and isolate three dozen, and perhaps more, such targets that could be destroyed by precision strikes and short-term commando raids. "The civilians in the Pentagon want to go into Iran and destroy as much of the military infrastructure as possible," the government consultant with close ties to the Pentagon told me.

Some of the missions involve extraordinary coöperation. For example, the former high-level intelligence official told me that an American commando task force has been set up in South Asia and is now working closely with a group of Pakistani scientists and technicians who had dealt with Iranian counterparts. (In 2003, the I.A.E.A. disclosed that Iran had been secretly receiving nuclear technology from Pakistan for more than a decade, and had withheld that information from inspectors.) The American task force, aided by the information from Pakistan, has been penetrating eastern Iran from Afghanistan in a hunt for underground installations. The task-force members, or their locally recruited agents, secreted remote detection devices?-known as sniffers?-capable of sampling the atmosphere for radioactive emissions and other evidence of nuclear-enrichment programs.

Getting such evidence is a pressing concern for the Bush Administration. The former high-level intelligence official told me, "They don't want to make any W.M.D. intelligence mistakes, as in Iraq. The Republicans can't have two of those. There's no education in the second kick of a mule." The official added that the government of Pervez Musharraf, the Pakistani President, has won a high price for its coöperation?-American assurance that Pakistan will not have to hand over A. Q. Khan, known as the father of Pakistan's nuclear bomb, to the I.A.E.A. or to any other international authorities for questioning. For two decades, Khan has been linked to a vast consortium of nuclear-black-market activities. Last year, Musharraf professed to be shocked when Khan, in the face of overwhelming evidence, "confessed" to his activities. A few days later, Musharraf pardoned him, and so far he has refused to allow the I.A.E.A. or American intelligence to interview him. Khan is now said to be living under house arrest in a villa in Islamabad. "It's a deal?-a trade-off," the former high-level intelligence official explained. "?'Tell us what you know about Iran and we will let your A. Q. Khan guys go.' It's the neoconservatives' version of short-term gain at long-term cost. They want to prove that Bush is the anti-terrorism guy who can handle Iran and the nuclear threat, against the long-term goal of eliminating the black market for nuclear proliferation."

The agreement comes at a time when Musharraf, according to a former high-level Pakistani diplomat, has authorized the expansion of Pakistan's nuclear-weapons arsenal. "Pakistan still needs parts and supplies, and needs to buy them in the clandestine market," the former diplomat said. "The U.S. has done nothing to stop it."

There has also been close, and largely unacknowledged, coöperation with Israel. The government consultant with ties to the Pentagon said that the Defense Department civilians, under the leadership of Douglas Feith, have been working with Israeli planners and consultants to develop and refine potential nuclear, chemical-weapons, and missile targets inside Iran. (After Osirak, Iran situated many of its nuclear sites in remote areas of the east, in an attempt to keep them out of striking range of other countries, especially Israel. Distance no longer lends such protection, however: Israel has acquired three submarines capable of launching cruise missiles and has equipped some of its aircraft with additional fuel tanks, putting Israeli F-16I fighters within the range of most Iranian targets.)

"They believe that about three-quarters of the potential targets can be destroyed from the air, and a quarter are too close to population centers, or buried too deep, to be targeted," the consultant said. Inevitably, he added, some suspicious sites need to be checked out by American or Israeli commando teams?-in on-the-ground surveillance?-before being targeted.

The Pentagon's contingency plans for a broader invasion of Iran are also being updated. Strategists at the headquarters of the U.S. Central Command, in Tampa, Florida, have been asked to revise the military's war plan, providing for a maximum ground and air invasion of Iran. Updating the plan makes sense, whether or not the Administration intends to act, because the geopolitics of the region have changed dramatically in the last three years. Previously, an American invasion force would have had to enter Iran by sea, by way of the Persian Gulf or the Gulf of Oman; now troops could move in on the ground, from Afghanistan or Iraq. Commando units and other assets could be introduced through new bases in the Central Asian republics.

It is possible that some of the American officials who talk about the need to eliminate Iran's nuclear infrastructure are doing so as part of a propaganda campaign aimed at pressuring Iran to give up its weapons planning. If so, the signals are not always clear. President Bush, who after 9/11 famously depicted Iran as a member of the "axis of evil," is now publicly emphasizing the need for diplomacy to run its course. "We don't have much leverage with the Iranians right now," the President said at a news conference late last year. "Diplomacy must be the first choice, and always the first choice of an administration trying to solve an issue of . . . nuclear armament. And we'll continue to press on diplomacy."

In my interviews over the past two months, I was given a much harsher view. The hawks in the Administration believe that it will soon become clear that the Europeans' negotiated approach cannot succeed, and that at that time the Administration will act. "We're not dealing with a set of National Security Council option papers here," the former high-level intelligence official told me. "They've already passed that wicket. It's not if we're going to do anything against Iran. They're doing it."

The immediate goals of the attacks would be to destroy, or at least temporarily derail, Iran's ability to go nuclear. But there are other, equally purposeful, motives at work. The government consultant told me that the hawks in the Pentagon, in private discussions, have been urging a limited attack on Iran because they believe it could lead to a toppling of the religious leadership. "Within the soul of Iran there is a struggle between secular nationalists and reformers, on the one hand, and, on the other hand, the fundamentalist Islamic movement," the consultant told me. "The minute the aura of invincibility which the mullahs enjoy is shattered, and with it the ability to hoodwink the West, the Iranian regime will collapse"?-like the former Communist regimes in Romania, East Germany, and the Soviet Union. Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz share that belief, he said.

"The idea that an American attack on Iran's nuclear facilities would produce a popular uprising is extremely illinformed," said Flynt Leverett, a Middle East scholar who worked on the National Security Council in the Bush Administration. "You have to understand that the nuclear ambition in Iran is supported across the political spectrum, and Iranians will perceive attacks on these sites as attacks on their ambitions to be a major regional player and a modern nation that's technologically sophisticated." Leverett, who is now a senior fellow at the Saban Center for Middle East Policy, at the Brookings Institution, warned that an American attack, if it takes place, "will produce an Iranian backlash against the United States and a rallying around the regime."



Rumsfeld planned and lobbied for more than two years before getting Presidential authority, in a series of findings and executive orders, to use military commandos for covert operations. One of his first steps was bureaucratic: to shift control of an undercover unit, known then as the Gray Fox (it has recently been given a new code name), from the Army to the Special Operations Command (socom), in Tampa. Gray Fox was formally assigned to socom in July, 2002, at the instigation of Rumsfeld's office, which meant that the undercover unit would have a single commander for administration and operational deployment. Then, last fall, Rumsfeld's ability to deploy the commandos expanded. According to a Pentagon consultant, an Execute Order on the Global War on Terrorism (referred to throughout the government as gwot) was issued at Rumsfeld's direction. The order specifically authorized the military "to find and finish" terrorist targets, the consultant said. It included a target list that cited Al Qaeda network members, Al Qaeda senior leadership, and other high-value targets. The consultant said that the order had been cleared throughout the national-security bureaucracy in Washington.

In late November, 2004, the Times reported that Bush had set up an interagency group to study whether it "would best serve the nation" to give the Pentagon complete control over the C.I.A.'s own élite paramilitary unit, which has operated covertly in trouble spots around the world for decades. The panel's conclusions, due in February, are foregone, in the view of many former C.I.A. officers. "It seems like it's going to happen," Howard Hart, who was chief of the C.I.A.'s Paramilitary Operations Division before retiring in 1991, told me.

There was other evidence of Pentagon encroachment. Two former C.I.A. clandestine officers, Vince Cannistraro and Philip Giraldi, who publish Intelligence Brief, a newsletter for their business clients, reported last month on the existence of a broad counter-terrorism Presidential finding that permitted the Pentagon "to operate unilaterally in a number of countries where there is a perception of a clear and evident terrorist threat. . . . A number of the countries are friendly to the U.S. and are major trading partners. Most have been cooperating in the war on terrorism." The two former officers listed some of the countries?-Algeria, Sudan, Yemen, Syria, and Malaysia. (I was subsequently told by the former high-level intelligence official that Tunisia is also on the list.)

Giraldi, who served three years in military intelligence before joining the C.I.A., said that he was troubled by the military's expanded covert assignment. "I don't think they can handle the cover," he told me. "They've got to have a different mind-set. They've got to handle new roles and get into foreign cultures and learn how other people think. If you're going into a village and shooting people, it doesn't matter," Giraldi added. "But if you're running operations that involve finesse and sensitivity, the military can't do it. Which is why these kind of operations were always run out of the agency." I was told that many Special Operations officers also have serious misgivings.

Rumsfeld and two of his key deputies, Stephen Cambone, the Under-secretary of Defense for Intelligence, and Army Lieutenant General William G. (Jerry) Boykin, will be part of the chain of command for the new commando operations. Relevant members of the House and Senate intelligence committees have been briefed on the Defense Department's expanded role in covert affairs, a Pentagon adviser assured me, but he did not know how extensive the briefings had been.

"I'm conflicted about the idea of operating without congressional oversight," the Pentagon adviser said. "But I've been told that there will be oversight down to the specific operation." A second Pentagon adviser agreed, with a significant caveat. "There are reporting requirements," he said. "But to execute the finding we don't have to go back and say, ?'We're going here and there.' No nitty-gritty detail and no micromanagement."

The legal questions about the Pentagon's right to conduct covert operations without informing Congress have not been resolved. "It's a very, very gray area," said Jeffrey H. Smith, a West Point graduate who served as the C.I.A.'s general counsel in the mid-nineteen-nineties. "Congress believes it voted to include all such covert activities carried out by the armed forces. The military says, ?'No, the things we're doing are not intelligence actions under the statute but necessary military steps authorized by the President, as Commander-in-Chief, to "prepare the battlefield."'" Referring to his days at the C.I.A., Smith added, "We were always careful not to use the armed forces in a covert action without a Presidential finding. The Bush Administration has taken a much more aggressive stance."

In his conversation with me, Smith emphasized that he was unaware of the military's current plans for expanding covert action. But he said, "Congress has always worried that the Pentagon is going to get us involved in some military misadventure that nobody knows about."

Under Rumsfeld's new approach, I was told, U.S. military operatives would be permitted to pose abroad as corrupt foreign businessmen seeking to buy contraband items that could be used in nuclear-weapons systems. In some cases, according to the Pentagon advisers, local citizens could be recruited and asked to join up with guerrillas or terrorists. This could potentially involve organizing and carrying out combat operations, or even terrorist activities. Some operations will likely take place in nations in which there is an American diplomatic mission, with an Ambassador and a C.I.A. station chief, the Pentagon consultant said. The Ambassador and the station chief would not necessarily have a need to know, under the Pentagon's current interpretation of its reporting requirement.

The new rules will enable the Special Forces community to set up what it calls "action teams" in the target countries overseas which can be used to find and eliminate terrorist organizations. "Do you remember the right-wing execution squads in El Salvador?" the former high-level intelligence official asked me, referring to the military-led gangs that committed atrocities in the early nineteen-eighties. "We founded them and we financed them," he said. "The objective now is to recruit locals in any area we want. And we aren't going to tell Congress about it." A former military officer, who has knowledge of the Pentagon's commando capabilities, said, "We're going to be riding with the bad boys."

One of the rationales for such tactics was spelled out in a series of articles by John Arquilla, a professor of defense analysis at the Naval Postgraduate School, in Monterey, California, and a consultant on terrorism for the rand corporation. "It takes a network to fight a network," Arquilla wrote in a recent article in the San Francisco Chronicle:

When conventional military operations and bombing failed to defeat the Mau Mau insurgency in Kenya in the 1950s, the British formed teams of friendly Kikuyu tribesmen who went about pretending to be terrorists. These "pseudo gangs," as they were called, swiftly threw the Mau Mau on the defensive, either by befriending and then ambushing bands of fighters or by guiding bombers to the terrorists' camps. What worked in Kenya a half-century ago has a wonderful chance of undermining trust and recruitment among today's terror networks. Forming new pseudo gangs should not be difficult.


"If a confused young man from Marin County can join up with Al Qaeda," Arquilla wrote, referring to John Walker Lindh, the twenty-year-old Californian who was seized in Afghanistan, "think what professional operatives might do."

A few pilot covert operations were conducted last year, one Pentagon adviser told me, and a terrorist cell in Algeria was "rolled up" with American help. The adviser was referring, apparently, to the capture of Ammari Saifi, known as Abderrezak le Para, the head of a North African terrorist network affiliated with Al Qaeda. But at the end of the year there was no agreement within the Defense Department about the rules of engagement. "The issue is approval for the final authority," the former high-level intelligence official said. "Who gets to say ?'Get this' or ?'Do this'?"

A retired four-star general said, "The basic concept has always been solid, but how do you insure that the people doing it operate within the concept of the law? This is pushing the edge of the envelope." The general added, "It's the oversight. And you're not going to get Warner"?-John Warner, of Virginia, the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee?-"and those guys to exercise oversight. This whole thing goes to the Fourth Deck." He was referring to the floor in the Pentagon where Rumsfeld and Cambone have their offices.

"It's a finesse to give power to Rumsfeld?-giving him the right to act swiftly, decisively, and lethally," the first Pentagon adviser told me. "It's a global free-fire zone."

The Pentagon has tried to work around the limits on covert activities before. In the early nineteen-eighties, a covert Army unit was set up and authorized to operate overseas with minimal oversight. The results were disastrous. The Special Operations program was initially known as Intelligence Support Activity, or I.S.A., and was administered from a base near Washington (as was, later, Gray Fox). It was established soon after the failed rescue, in April, 1980, of the American hostages in Iran, who were being held by revolutionary students after the Islamic overthrow of the Shah's regime. At first, the unit was kept secret from many of the senior generals and civilian leaders in the Pentagon, as well as from many members of Congress. It was eventually deployed in the Reagan Administration's war against the Sandinista government, in Nicaragua. It was heavily committed to supporting the Contras. By the mid-eighties, however, the I.S.A.'s operations had been curtailed, and several of its senior officers were courtmartialled following a series of financial scandals, some involving arms deals. The affair was known as "the Yellow Fruit scandal," after the code name given to one of the I.S.A.'s cover organizations?-and in many ways the group's procedures laid the groundwork for the Iran-Contra scandal.

Despite the controversy surrounding Yellow Fruit, the I.S.A. was kept intact as an undercover unit by the Army. "But we put so many restrictions on it," the second Pentagon adviser said. "In I.S.A., if you wanted to travel fifty miles you had to get a special order. And there were certain areas, such as Lebanon, where they could not go." The adviser acknowledged that the current operations are similar to those two decades earlier, with similar risks?-and, as he saw it, similar reasons for taking the risks. "What drove them then, in terms of Yellow Fruit, was that they had no intelligence on Iran," the adviser told me. "They had no knowledge of Tehran and no people on the ground who could prepare the battle space."

Rumsfeld's decision to revive this approach stemmed, once again, from a failure of intelligence in the Middle East, the adviser said. The Administration believed that the C.I.A. was unable, or unwilling, to provide the military with the information it needed to effectively challenge stateless terrorism. "One of the big challenges was that we didn't have Humint"?-human intelligence?-"collection capabilities in areas where terrorists existed," the adviser told me. "Because the C.I.A. claimed to have such a hold on Humint, the way to get around them, rather than take them on, was to claim that the agency didn't do Humint to support Special Forces operations overseas. The C.I.A. fought it." Referring to Rumsfeld's new authority for covert operations, the first Pentagon adviser told me, "It's not empowering military intelligence. It's emasculating the C.I.A."

A former senior C.I.A. officer depicted the agency's eclipse as predictable. "For years, the agency bent over backward to integrate and coördinate with the Pentagon," the former officer said. "We just caved and caved and got what we deserved. It is a fact of life today that the Pentagon is a five-hundred-pound gorilla and the C.I.A. director is a chimpanzee."

There was pressure from the White House, too. A former C.I.A. clandestine-services officer told me that, in the months after the resignation of the agency's director George Tenet, in June, 2004, the White House began "coming down critically" on analysts in the C.I.A.'s Directorate of Intelligence (D.I.) and demanded "to see more support for the Administration's political position." Porter Goss, Tenet's successor, engaged in what the recently retired C.I.A. official described as a "political purge" in the D.I. Among the targets were a few senior analysts who were known to write dissenting papers that had been forwarded to the White House. The recently retired C.I.A. official said, "The White House carefully reviewed the political analyses of the D.I. so they could sort out the apostates from the true believers." Some senior analysts in the D.I. have turned in their resignations?-quietly, and without revealing the extent of the disarray.


The White House solidified its control over intelligence last month, when it forced last-minute changes in the intelligence-reform bill. The legislation, based substantially on recommendations of the 9/11 Commission, originally gave broad powers, including authority over intelligence spending, to a new national-intelligence director. (The Pentagon controls roughly eighty per cent of the intelligence budget.) A reform bill passed in the Senate by a vote of 96-2. Before the House voted, however, Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld balked. The White House publicly supported the legislation, but House Speaker Dennis Hastert refused to bring a House version of the bill to the floor for a vote?-ostensibly in defiance of the President, though it was widely understood in Congress that Hastert had been delegated to stall the bill. After intense White House and Pentagon lobbying, the legislation was rewritten. The bill that Congress approved sharply reduced the new director's power, in the name of permitting the Secretary of Defense to maintain his "statutory responsibilities." Fred Kaplan, in the online magazine Slate, described the real issues behind Hastert's action, quoting a congressional aide who expressed amazement as White House lobbyists bashed the Senate bill and came up "with all sorts of ludicrous reasons why it was unacceptable."

"Rummy's plan was to get a compromise in the bill in which the Pentagon keeps its marbles and the C.I.A. loses theirs," the former high-level intelligence official told me. "Then all the pieces of the puzzle fall in place. He gets authority for covert action that is not attributable, the ability to directly task national-intelligence assets"?-including the many intelligence satellites that constantly orbit the world.

"Rumsfeld will no longer have to refer anything through the government's intelligence wringer," the former official went on. "The intelligence system was designed to put competing agencies in competition. What's missing will be the dynamic tension that insures everyone's priorities?-in the C.I.A., the D.O.D., the F.B.I., and even the Department of Homeland Security?-are discussed. The most insidious implication of the new system is that Rumsfeld no longer has to tell people what he's doing so they can ask, ?'Why are you doing this?' or ?'What are your priorities?' Now he can keep all of the mattress mice out of it."



It strikes noone else as scary that the administration is working to quiet those voices in the intelligence service that 'don't support the president's agenda?'

I mean, WTF! Aren't the intelligence services supposed to provide unbiased information for us to make judgements off of? How can we trust a one-sided service which comes to us and says, 'yeah, Iran needs to go based on such-and-such, or so-and-so'..... terrible stuff! We sound more and more like a dictatorship every day...

Cycloptichorn
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2005 12:46 pm
Cyclo - are you under the mistaken impression that the Iranian nuclear program is for peaceful purposes? Have you missed the numerous statements from the mullahs in that oil-rich country that they don't need nuclear energy?

Have you somehow missed that catchy phrase the mullahs like to spout, "Death to America"?

Are you honestly willing to take the chance that nuclear weapons would be safe in the hands of such irresponsible, aggressive and ignorantly superstitious sociopaths with their constant threats against not only Israel, but the U.S. and the West in general?

Get realistic. Iran is a terrorist state. As long as they remain so, they cannot and will not be allowed to possess nuclear weapons.


U.S. WARNS EU FIRMS TO STAY AWAY FROM IRAN-DIPLOMATS
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Rafick
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2005 04:29 pm
Israel calls Iran the 'threat'

Jerusalem - Iran is the greatest threat to the world, according to an Israeli poll published on Friday in response to an EU survey which was released earlier this week and awarded the title of most dangerous country to the Jewish state.

The opinion poll carried by the top-selling Yediot Aharonot said 83% of Israelis considered the Islamic Republic of Iran to be a threat to world peace.

Israel's northern neighbour Syria came second in the ranking, with 73% of those polled giving a positive answer to the same question.

North Korea was third with 60% and Israel was 12th, with 21% of Israelis judging that their own country as a threat to world peace.

The poll came four days after a survey carried out by the European Union and asking the same question revealed that 59% of Europeans see Israel as a threat to world peace - ahead of Iran, North Korea and the United States.

The poll caused a stir in Israel and sparked accusations of rising anti-Semitism in Europe.

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1442141,00.html
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2005 04:37 pm
Iran isn't really a major threat to America. Even with nuclear bombs, they would still have a hard time doing serious damage to the US if we would just close our borders up, the way should have been done long ago.

I have a hard time judging countries for wanting nuclear bombs when we have so many ourselves, and so do other countries. While you might be perfectly comfortable in your Divinely-inspired role of judging other countries, I am not. Neither is the rest of the world. Arguably, the US is the most dangerous nuclear force in the world; after all, we are the only country to ever use nukes against another. It would be the height of hypocrisy to chastise others for things we do ourselves.

And it's not even just our pre-existing arsenal; the pentagon has been researching and funding 'mini-nukes,' built to see actual wartime use, and uses Depleted Uranium, which is highly toxic to the environment. We've shot so much DU in Iraq that we might as well have popped a few small nukes there. So, once again, it's arguable that the US should not be allowed to keep the arsenal we have.

When will you learn that we simply don't have the right to do whatever we want, whenever we want? Do you seriously believe we are power supreme? You get real, JW!

Cycloptichorn
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2005 09:27 pm
OCCOM BILL wrote:
JustWonders wrote:
They're coming unhinged Smile
You're right. The truth doesn't need that much denial. The boy cried wolf and Ali Younessi spilled his coffee springing to attention! That, is what George Bush brought to the table.


O'Bill, if you think the mullahs in Iran are mad (and they are LOL)THISguy has really gone 'round the bend!
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2005 09:40 pm
Poor fella's probably been reading A2K's foil hat brigade's posts and select "news" pieces from salon.com and other such sources. :wink:
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jan, 2005 01:26 am
JustWonders wrote:
Cyclo - are you under the mistaken impression that the Iranian nuclear program is for peaceful purposes? Have you missed the numerous statements from the mullahs in that oil-rich country that they don't need nuclear energy?[/URL]



Let's run through this again for the members of the class that were asleep. Iran has legally purchased a light-metal nuclear reactor from Russia who is currently installing it. Amazingly this exactly the same nuclear technology that South Korea and Japan have purchased from the US and are currently installing in Nth Korea for FREE!!

These types of reactors are apparently not able to produce large amounts of plutonium and don't measurably add to the 'threat' of rogue nukes. Nations that DO export 'unsafe' technology are places like France and Pakistan*- President Bush can safely bomb them both, who'd notice?

The invasion of Iraq has just shown these 'evil' nations that a real WMD program is the safest defense from a invader nation such as the US. Which leaves us with the dilemma that the 'victory' over the Iraqi people was so easy because they didn't have real forces or material to resist - the more the Pres and Condi and Unka Dick talk of reshaping the world as democratic the more likely the invasion of places like Iran and Nth Korea, with a real shooting match this time. Tens of billions of dollars and thousands of lives to keep Iraq in line at present, how much are you all willing to do the same elsewhere?



*and they do it illegally, they are also an ally of the US and safe from checks and recriminations - makes a lot of fuc*ing sense, no?!
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jan, 2005 01:32 am
What makes no sense is your yammering. Iraqis are declaring their independence as we type. Turn on your television for Dog's sake.
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jan, 2005 01:44 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
What makes no sense is your yammering. Iraqis are declaring their independence as we type. Turn on your television for Dog's sake.


A vote in Iraq will stop other nations from building bombs? Yep, sure.

In case you haven't heard - the USA is now committed to increasing its troop presence in the nation for the next two years and spending another $US80 billion in the process. The country is the PREMIER breeding ground for terrorists on the planet, and Afghanistan is the NEW world's supplier of heroin, but they'll be democratic terrorists and opium growers Rolling Eyes

How fu*ked up do you think things will be before the US has to exit?!
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jan, 2005 01:54 am
Rolling Eyes
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jan, 2005 06:17 pm
Those crazy, paranoid mullahs, making stuff up again!

The Guardian (London) January 29, 2005

US jets flying over Iran to spot targets, says source
By Julian Borger in Washington

The US is increasing the pressure on Iran by sending military planes into its airspace to test the country's defences and spot potential targets, according to an intelligence source in Washington.

The overflights have been reported in the Iranian press and the head of Iran's air force, Brigadier General Karim Qavami, declared recently that he had ordered his anti-aircraft batteries to shoot down any intruders, but there have been no reports of any Iranian missiles being launched.

"The idea is to get the Iranians to turn on their radar, to get an assessment of their air defences," an intelligence source in Washington said. He said the flights were part of the Pentagon's contingency planning for a possible attack on sites linked to Iran's suspected nuclear weapons programme.

"It make sense to get a look at their air defences, and it makes the mullahs nervous during the EU negotiations (over the suspension of Iranian uranium enrichment)," said John Pike, the head of GlobalSecurity.org, an independent military research group.

The flights come after reports of American special forces incursions into Iran. However, former US intelligence officials have said they believe the incursions are being carried out by Iranian rebels drawn from the anti-Tehran rebel group, the Mujahedin-e-Khalq, under US supervision.

The US military denied the reports. "We're not flying over frigging Iran," an official said, suggesting Tehran was making up the incidents to attract international sympathy.

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"We're not flying over frigging Iran,"

OK. Must be those pesky Martians again Smile
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