@izzythepush,
Quote:The Ancient Greeks knew the Earth was round because of the horizon.
That's nonsense.
The Earth is flat precisely because of the line of the horizon.
The ancient Greeks had science, but it hit a dead end because they let their philosophy color their ideas. Science is to work as intended only when one has the ability to question. This is because of what the scientific method is.
Quote:The scientific method is an empirical method of acquiring knowledge that has characterized the development of science since at least the 17th century (with notable practitioners in previous centuries). It involves careful observation, applying rigorous skepticism about what is observed, given that cognitive assumptions can distort how one interprets the observation. It involves formulating hypotheses, via induction, based on such observations; experimental and measurement-based testing of deductions drawn from the hypotheses; and refinement (or elimination) of the hypotheses based on the experimental findings.
A scientist cannot afford to take another person's word. They must make their own observations, and they must maintain skepticism, even for supposedly established laws. This is true whether you are an amateur or professional. If you claim to use the scientific method, you have no business believing theories that you have not tested yourself.
So, again, ancient Greeks basically decided they understood what they were looking at (mind you, this is before the scientific method even existed). They did practically zero testing, then. They also did not test the basic logic of their assumption.
Because believing in gravity means believing in ideas that one can demonstrate as false on the micro scale, I guess.
Quote:They even calculated the circumference of the Earth with reasonable accuracy.
Based on what? Based on what?!? When you dictate the mathematical terms, of course you'd be accurate! A blessed miracle, they got it right! This would be similar to a scene from a video game I played. In it, you are fighting a forest boss, and she decides to give you a bunch of elaborate puzzles. These are to mess with your head and abuse you, so she's like "Sorry, you got it wrong, I expected better." She asks "What is 1 and 1?" Obvious, right? But the absurdity of this question is that the answers she allows are 11 and 2, and she defines the terms of the answer. If you say 2, she tells you that she never said to add them together, she wanted two ones (11). If you say 11, she tells you that it's basic math that the answer is 2, and she expected you to figure that out.
When you define the terms of math or science, you are always right, and the other person is always wrong.
But if there was no circumference because the Earth is not a sphere, then this math is empty. You are doing fake math based on fake assumptions.
Quote:Columns wasn't saying the Earth was round while everyone else was saying it was flat...
Lemme stop right there. First, you mean "Columbus" right? Second, that "trying to prove the Earth was round" thing? That's another lie taught at school.
Actual reason for Columbus's trip? Let's look at a map.
The Muslims were basically on a "convert or die" rant, and the West was tired of their ****. They wanted goods from China and India without dealing with the Middle East. Option A? Head towards Africa. Cape of Good Hope was a treacherous part of the sea, with heavy storms, rocks, and bad tides. You could head further south, but then you had glaciers. Option B... Head across Russia, either by land or by sea. By land you had a long and hard trek, and you might also have to deal with Mongols or Russians. It was also cold, and they would need a guide to get to their destination. Or they could try the seas of Russia, which tended to be frigid, and there were alot of small islands in the way. Oh yea, and glaciers again. Columbus wanted an Option C. No Muslims, no cold weather, no cape with riptides and rocks.
(Btw, Lief Erikson had already discovered America, but it was mostly the upper parts. What Columbus really discovered was that there wasn't a path to the Indies because of two continents in the way. But since he wanted to keep being funded for travels, he made a calculated mistake and told them that he had reached the Indies. Which is why the Native Americans are sometimes called Indians)
Why is this lie told? Well, because most teachers are either ignorant or leftists. Leftists are in bed with every culture but American. Columbus setting out had little to do with "proving" the Earth was round, flat, or otherwise and a great deal to do with Columbus making a fortune. He had to convince backers to fund his expedition. How do you suppose he did this? Tell them that he intended to to prove the shape of the Earth? They would laugh at him, and his expedition wouldn't work. No, he told them the truth, that he intended to find a new trade route, and then told them (because his particular backers were Jesus freaks) that he would also be able to spread the Gospel to the eastern lands.
https://patriotpost.us/opinion/66079-marco-polo-islamic-jihad-and-the-real-reason-columbus-sailed-west-2019-10-14
By the way, despite me telling you this numerous times, you don't seem to get how it is not only possible but easy to go around a flat Earth. Because, you see, a flat Earth is still round. It's just not a globe.
Btw, none of this is invalid because of a flat Earth. If you head due east on a flat Earth, you are traveling around a circle. The difference is that there is no vertical curvature and that people in the southern hemisphere aren't upside-down. That light doesn't bend unnaturally, water doesn't curve, and a number of other messed up ideas that you can see are wrong with your own eyes.