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What is Evangelism?

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2022 09:23 am
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:

"No one told you, you read it in the Bible"... lol

Sheep...

NASA observes the Earth and you observe the Bible...




Apparently Bulma "believes" the Earth is flat...and is circled by the Sun, Moon, and other planets...each of which is a sphere. Not sure why his god made the Earth the only flat object in the system. Musta been just a whim on the part of the god.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2022 09:32 am
@Frank Apisa,
Oh, but the sun and moon are also just images wrapped around a sphere (devil's advocate)

😁
bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2022 10:48 am
@Frank Apisa,
Actually, I cannot confirm the existence of other planets. Because much like NASA, I haven't actually landed on Mars or Uranus. I've shown how all of these "Mars" pictures are actually color-swapped shots from Eartth.

URL: https://able2know.org/topic/435623-83

But if I could, I can confirm that it is logistically more feasible for anything resembling gravity to work in a single direction among beings that have polarized personal magnetism (by that, I mean the iron in our bloodstream tends to like to flow down from our hearts and brains rather that collect in either). Bottom line, a round planet either has such beings that it doesn't matter what direction gravity pulls them (starfish-like aliens) or it has no life at all.

So, we would only be able to visit planes, not planets.

Quote out of context from Cobbler. I read it from the Bible, then I tested it out. I found that the Bible was right, the science book was wrong, the science teacher was wrong, the government bureaucrat that told you to trust NASA was wrong, the average person was wrong, and Cobbler was wrong. In fact, that Cobbler was stupid, because I actively showed him how easy it was to hoax some pictures and he still didn't believe.

Here is a view from space. In fact it's Cobbler's own view.

https://d32ogoqmya1dw8.cloudfront.net/images/introgeo/earthsystem/apollo8.jpg_crops/9179175f24d66961a779d9b65af23942.jpg

People asked me if the Earth is flat, then is the moon flat? Well, it sure seems this way!

But here, this is what I'm talking about. We have what is claimed to be the Earth from space in two pictures.

https://gray-ksfy-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/u84ccWStpHzoc4mlSIEgoubbcA8=/1200x675/smart/filters:quality(85)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/gray/ISXKASNGXVDWTCSJFHAYJ2F7LQ.png

You'll notice a few things.
1. The pictures don't match up.
2. Earth always seems to be shown from certain angles, so that we can look at it and perceive a curve. Usually top only like that.
3. That second picture is actually a picture of ice. It's curved in a swirl, but yes. It's ice. It's cropped off from an edge so you aren't looking at the whole.

I got a ice lake picture. Cropped, swirled, and set at the bottom. Stock starry sky, stock satellite. No effort, under an hour of work, then I went back to playing Zelda: Skyward Sword.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816868397836926996/973626415591325716/EarthFromSpace.png

Pictures of Earth are always from the side or top. In fact, we can see even less of the Earth from the moon, than we can see of the moon from Earth.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2022 10:55 am
@bulmabriefs144,
bulmabriefs144 wrote:


Actually, I cannot confirm the existence of other planets. Because much like NASA, I haven't actually landed on Mars or Uranus. I've shown how all of these "Mars" pictures are actually color-swapped shots from Eartth.

URL: https://able2know.org/topic/435623-83

But if I could, I can confirm that it is logistically more feasible for anything resembling gravity to work in a single direction among beings that have polarized personal magnetism (by that, I mean the iron in our bloodstream tends to like to flow down from our hearts and brains rather that collect in either). Bottom line, a round planet either has such beings that it doesn't matter what direction gravity pulls them (starfish-like aliens) or it has no life at all.

So, we would only be able to visit planes, not planets.

Quote out of context from Cobbler. I read it from the Bible, then I tested it out. I found that the Bible was right, the science book was wrong, the science teacher was wrong, the government bureaucrat that told you to trust NASA was wrong, the average person was wrong, and Cobbler was wrong. In fact, that Cobbler was stupid, because I actively showed him how easy it was to hoax some pictures and he still didn't believe.

Here is a view from space. In fact it's Cobbler's own view.

https://d32ogoqmya1dw8.cloudfront.net/images/introgeo/earthsystem/apollo8.jpg_crops/9179175f24d66961a779d9b65af23942.jpg

People asked me if the Earth is flat, then is the moon flat? Well, it sure seems this way!

But here, this is what I'm talking about. We have what is claimed to be the Earth from space in two pictures.

https://gray-ksfy-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/u84ccWStpHzoc4mlSIEgoubbcA8=/1200x675/smart/filters:quality(85)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/gray/ISXKASNGXVDWTCSJFHAYJ2F7LQ.png

You'll notice a few things.
1. The pictures don't match up.
2. Earth always seems to be shown from certain angles, so that we can look at it and perceive a curve. Usually top only like that.
3. That second picture is actually a picture of ice. It's curved in a swirl, but yes. It's ice. It's cropped off from an edge so you aren't looking at the whole.

I got a ice lake picture. Cropped, swirled, and set at the bottom. Stock starry sky, stock satellite. No effort, under an hour of work, then I went back to playing Zelda: Skyward Sword.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816868397836926996/973626415591325716/EarthFromSpace.png

Pictures of Earth are always from the side or top. In fact, we can see even less of the Earth from the moon, than we can see of the moon from Earth.


So...what team do you think will win the Super Bowl this season?
bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2022 11:36 am
@Frank Apisa,
Ummmm, the right team, of course.
(more into women's fashion than sports)

...Doesn't that happen in February anyway?

izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2022 11:43 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

So...what team do you think will win the Super Bowl this season?


Whichever team slam dunks the most home runs.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2022 11:44 am
@bulmabriefs144,
bulmabriefs144 wrote:

Ummmm, the right team, of course.
(more into women's fashion than sports)

...Doesn't that happen in February anyway?




It happens in February...of next year. The season starts in September this year...and ends with a Super Bowl between the winner of the National Football Conference and the American Football Conference.

So who do you think will win?
bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2022 12:09 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I had to literally look up the teams even likely to be playing.

Quote:
These are the 10 teams with the best Super Bowl odds for next season:

Buffalo Bills +700

Tampa Bay Buccaneers +750

Kansas City Chiefs +1000

Green Bay Packers +1000

Los Angeles Rams +1100

San Francisco 49ers +1300

Cleveland Browns +1400

Dallas Cowboys +1500

Denver Broncos +1600

Los Angeles Chargers +1600


The Dallas Cowboys. My dad usually favors them, so I imagine he knows something I don't.

Now, months from now, you'll know that I was right. (Or the Cowboys won't even play)

And which dress looks the best on me?

https://simages.tbdress.com/Upload/Image/2017/39/watermark/840-1120/1581245c-8c2a-46bd-a8e1-201b73fb7d99.jpg

https://www.newsshare.in/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Cocktail-Dresses-3.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-w3CHOiWEt54/UOf9syEszyI/AAAAAAAAIGg/JmPChqBAPWA/s1600/Cocktail-Dress-Collection.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BsrbZku9-8s/UOf9eO3JCRI/AAAAAAAAIEg/ACBXJbPiYQs/s1600/Black-Cocktail-Dress-Designs.jpg

https://simages.tbdress.com/Upload/Image/2018/25/watermark/840-1120/8e0a624e-0983-4005-9498-686417ca5274.jpg
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2022 12:20 pm
@bulmabriefs144,
bulmabriefs144 wrote:


I had to literally look up the teams even likely to be playing.

Quote:
These are the 10 teams with the best Super Bowl odds for next season:

Buffalo Bills +700

Tampa Bay Buccaneers +750

Kansas City Chiefs +1000

Green Bay Packers +1000

Los Angeles Rams +1100

San Francisco 49ers +1300

Cleveland Browns +1400

Dallas Cowboys +1500

Denver Broncos +1600

Los Angeles Chargers +1600


The Dallas Cowboys. My dad usually favors them, so I imagine he knows something I don't.

Now, months from now, you'll know that I was right. (Or the Cowboys won't even play)


Cowboys are not my favorite team...by far. I am a GIANTS fan...but we will be lucky if they are even in the playoffs.

Quote:
And which dress looks the best on me?

https://simages.tbdress.com/Upload/Image/2017/39/watermark/840-1120/1581245c-8c2a-46bd-a8e1-201b73fb7d99.jpg

https://www.newsshare.in/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Cocktail-Dresses-3.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-w3CHOiWEt54/UOf9syEszyI/AAAAAAAAIGg/JmPChqBAPWA/s1600/Cocktail-Dress-Collection.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BsrbZku9-8s/UOf9eO3JCRI/AAAAAAAAIEg/ACBXJbPiYQs/s1600/Black-Cocktail-Dress-Designs.jpg

https://simages.tbdress.com/Upload/Image/2018/25/watermark/840-1120/8e0a624e-0983-4005-9498-686417ca5274.jpg


I thought you were a male...and I seldom have seen any male look good in a dress. But, who knows?

The women modeling the dresses seem beautiful to me...and all of the dresses are terrific in my opinion. The yellow one with butterflies is my personal favorite.
bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2022 12:40 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Crossdressers are a thing. And yes, they can. They can also look kinda sketchy. Depending on whether it's crossdressing or drag, and whether or not they are giving it legit effort.

https://allaboutcd.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/crossdresser-Nina.jpg
(OK Crossdressing)

https://images.virgula.com.br/2019/07/divine-ursula-2.jpg
(Drag, the legit inspiration for Disney's Ursula)

https://media1.fdncms.com/memphisflyer/imager/when-transvestites-attack-memphis-mcdonalds-undergoes-gender-fication/u/slideshow/1333100/scary-cross-dresser.jpg
(Not trying)

I will take that under advisement. I actually like the first dress, followed by the fourth. The second and third, I like, but usually anything lower cut than dress #4 usually doesn't work for me.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2022 01:01 pm
@TheCobbler,
I don't know why you waste your time with this idiot.

You can't reason with them, they're given idiot sheets from their websites with a answer to most questions.

Not a correct answer obviously, but an answer that will satisfy their limited cognitive powers.

The Ancient Greeks knew the Earth was round because of the horizon.

They even calculated the circumference of the Earth with reasonable accuracy.

Columns wasn't saying the Earth was round while everyone else was saying it was flat, he was saying the Greeks were wrong, that Earth was a lot smaller, and that the sea between Europe and Cathay, (China) wasn't too vast to cross at all.

He was wrong, but luckily for him the Americas were there.
bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2022 11:28 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
The Ancient Greeks knew the Earth was round because of the horizon.


That's nonsense.

The Earth is flat precisely because of the line of the horizon.

The ancient Greeks had science, but it hit a dead end because they let their philosophy color their ideas. Science is to work as intended only when one has the ability to question. This is because of what the scientific method is.

Quote:
The scientific method is an empirical method of acquiring knowledge that has characterized the development of science since at least the 17th century (with notable practitioners in previous centuries). It involves careful observation, applying rigorous skepticism about what is observed, given that cognitive assumptions can distort how one interprets the observation. It involves formulating hypotheses, via induction, based on such observations; experimental and measurement-based testing of deductions drawn from the hypotheses; and refinement (or elimination) of the hypotheses based on the experimental findings.


A scientist cannot afford to take another person's word. They must make their own observations, and they must maintain skepticism, even for supposedly established laws. This is true whether you are an amateur or professional. If you claim to use the scientific method, you have no business believing theories that you have not tested yourself.

So, again, ancient Greeks basically decided they understood what they were looking at (mind you, this is before the scientific method even existed). They did practically zero testing, then. They also did not test the basic logic of their assumption.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816868397836926996/973803150517600256/New_Bitmap_Image.png

Because believing in gravity means believing in ideas that one can demonstrate as false on the micro scale, I guess.

Quote:
They even calculated the circumference of the Earth with reasonable accuracy.


Based on what? Based on what?!? When you dictate the mathematical terms, of course you'd be accurate! A blessed miracle, they got it right! This would be similar to a scene from a video game I played. In it, you are fighting a forest boss, and she decides to give you a bunch of elaborate puzzles. These are to mess with your head and abuse you, so she's like "Sorry, you got it wrong, I expected better." She asks "What is 1 and 1?" Obvious, right? But the absurdity of this question is that the answers she allows are 11 and 2, and she defines the terms of the answer. If you say 2, she tells you that she never said to add them together, she wanted two ones (11). If you say 11, she tells you that it's basic math that the answer is 2, and she expected you to figure that out.

When you define the terms of math or science, you are always right, and the other person is always wrong.

But if there was no circumference because the Earth is not a sphere, then this math is empty. You are doing fake math based on fake assumptions.

Quote:
Columns wasn't saying the Earth was round while everyone else was saying it was flat...


Lemme stop right there. First, you mean "Columbus" right? Second, that "trying to prove the Earth was round" thing? That's another lie taught at school.

Actual reason for Columbus's trip? Let's look at a map.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816868397836926996/973808767265300510/HD-Wallpapers-World-Map-Images-Download.png

The Muslims were basically on a "convert or die" rant, and the West was tired of their ****. They wanted goods from China and India without dealing with the Middle East. Option A? Head towards Africa. Cape of Good Hope was a treacherous part of the sea, with heavy storms, rocks, and bad tides. You could head further south, but then you had glaciers. Option B... Head across Russia, either by land or by sea. By land you had a long and hard trek, and you might also have to deal with Mongols or Russians. It was also cold, and they would need a guide to get to their destination. Or they could try the seas of Russia, which tended to be frigid, and there were alot of small islands in the way. Oh yea, and glaciers again. Columbus wanted an Option C. No Muslims, no cold weather, no cape with riptides and rocks.

(Btw, Lief Erikson had already discovered America, but it was mostly the upper parts. What Columbus really discovered was that there wasn't a path to the Indies because of two continents in the way. But since he wanted to keep being funded for travels, he made a calculated mistake and told them that he had reached the Indies. Which is why the Native Americans are sometimes called Indians)

Why is this lie told? Well, because most teachers are either ignorant or leftists. Leftists are in bed with every culture but American. Columbus setting out had little to do with "proving" the Earth was round, flat, or otherwise and a great deal to do with Columbus making a fortune. He had to convince backers to fund his expedition. How do you suppose he did this? Tell them that he intended to to prove the shape of the Earth? They would laugh at him, and his expedition wouldn't work. No, he told them the truth, that he intended to find a new trade route, and then told them (because his particular backers were Jesus freaks) that he would also be able to spread the Gospel to the eastern lands.

https://patriotpost.us/opinion/66079-marco-polo-islamic-jihad-and-the-real-reason-columbus-sailed-west-2019-10-14

By the way, despite me telling you this numerous times, you don't seem to get how it is not only possible but easy to go around a flat Earth. Because, you see, a flat Earth is still round. It's just not a globe.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-43iZeV2fqRc/VVTU3tPZOyI/AAAAAAAAEBA/gBeKdk-Xr1A/s640/antarctica%2B-%2Bflat%2Bearth%2Brace%2Broute.jpg

Btw, none of this is invalid because of a flat Earth. If you head due east on a flat Earth, you are traveling around a circle. The difference is that there is no vertical curvature and that people in the southern hemisphere aren't upside-down. That light doesn't bend unnaturally, water doesn't curve, and a number of other messed up ideas that you can see are wrong with your own eyes.
BillW
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2022 11:33 pm
Assuming no atmospheric refraction and a spherical Earth with radius R=6,371 kilometres (3,959 mi): For an observer standing on the ground with h = 1.70 metres (5 ft 7 in), the horizon is at a distance of 4.7 kilometres (2.9 mi).
bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2022 12:21 am
@BillW,
Wrong.

The horizon on a spherical Earth would not be level.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816868397836926996/973827989676650567/New_Bitmap_Image.png

In layman's terms, there are two things wrong with a globe.
1. You don't have a flat horizon (which you do!)
2. The height of curvature must either dictate that the Earth is egg-shaped rather than globular, or curvature height must be equal in height to the radius. This means that if Earth's radius is 3,963 mi, then at the middle of the Earth (prime meridian) oceans and land should be 3963 mi high! Nowhere on Earth is this the case, but it is the necessity of a perfect sphere.

This alone should be enough to dissuade you of such a notion. Basic geometry. "A circle has 360 degrees." Now a sphere is three dimensionally 360 degrees, but in one direction, it always adds up to this total, using a right angle to figure out the curvature.

https://mathmistakes.info/facts/TrigFacts/learn/images/ucad.gif

These lines are of equal length, unless we are distorting the length (making it an egg) to make it fit theories. But that's pretty much the point. This is a big lie, that people keep making up other lies to support. Special relativity. Sidereal days. Curvature of light. Earth is really an oblong. "Wobble." The sun and moon aren't really the same size, you're just imagining things.

It's all gaslighting. But it all falls apart when you remember what you were taught in school about math and science (no, not what they told you about the round Earth, the other laws).

izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2022 01:30 am
@izzythepush,
I'm not reading any of that moronic drivel.

It only makes sense if you have **** for brains.
bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2022 10:04 pm
@izzythepush,
So don't.
What's stopping you?

Meanwhile, you're protesting an awful lot.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Thu 12 May, 2022 02:46 pm
@bulmabriefs144,
A circle is 360 degrees, a straight line is 180 degrees.

A circle is not a straight line even if you pray all day until you are blue in the face...
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 12 May, 2022 03:11 pm
@izzythepush,
Columbus, not columns, bloody spellcheck.

I just spotted it. Sorry.
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BillW
 
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Reply Thu 12 May, 2022 04:23 pm
@TheCobbler,
bulma thinking:

A line has 360° ---> 180° on the top + 180° on the bottom = 360°
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Thu 12 May, 2022 07:24 pm
@BillW,
And, the whole is equal to the sum of its parts, unless someone's brain is missing and they can't think.
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