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What is Evangelism?

 
 
NealNealNeal
 
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Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2022 02:41 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

You said science suffered from PC bias and when asked to give an example you say the "liberal" media, and say it's stupid.

Thinking that's what science is, is even more stupid than voting for Brexit which has brought zero benefits and a shitload of disadvantages and bureaucracy.

That's Conservative ******* stupidity writ large, and the rest of us are paying the price of the cretinous Brexiteers.

The only person benefitting is Putin.

I am saying that true science is ignored by the biases of "progressives" who demand that "evidence" support conclusions they have already made. This is the opposite of the scientific method.
Jasper is an example of an honest practitioner of true science. Pay attention to what he says.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2022 02:53 pm
@NealNealNeal,
You are dishonest, stupid or both, you complain of alleged PC bias in science yet when asked for examples can't give a single one, yet still continue with the same sneering bullshit.
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NealNealNeal
 
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Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2022 02:58 pm
@NealNealNeal,
In addition, I am not saying the leftist press is stupid. Quite to the contrary. The press manipulates a part of the public. It profits greatly in doing so.
Contrast this to America's pitiful president. Virtually everyone with a brain knows how horrible he is. He is merely a puppet of leftists.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2022 03:07 pm
@NealNealNeal,
The press is overwhelmingly right wing. You are lying.
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NealNealNeal
 
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Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2022 05:06 pm
@TheCobbler,
Back to Cobbler:
Earlier you mentioned Fibonacci.
Does this not give evidence that a Creator exists?
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2022 05:19 pm
@NealNealNeal,
Do triangles prove the existence of God?

On the contrary, they prove that symmetry and intelligence exists without the need of a creator...

In the beginning God created triangles, circles and squares. Really?

Geometry exists even without an observer.
bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2022 07:00 pm
@TheCobbler,
Fibonacci showed a mathematical system of gradual expansion, which is found all over nature. The Fibonacci spiral works by addition of two previous results. (0), 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13...

https://i1.wp.com/www.naturphilosophie.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Fibonacci_Sequence_Nautilus_Shell1.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5d/83/37/5d833778d8ca6e9027f9a3cdb4bdc4cd.jpg
http://xahlee.info/math/i/Fibonacci_spiral_hurrican_Irene.jpg
https://i2.wp.com/thegardendiaries.blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/picmonkey-collage.jpg
The Anointed
 
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Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2022 08:00 pm
@TheCobbler,
quote]Geometry exists even without an observer.[/quote]

Without a created observer, with the created senses of sight, hearing, smell. taste and touch etc, there is nothing, but the eternal energy that has neither beginning or end.

The only Geometry that existed before the creation of this boundless cosmos, was in "The Great Thought" the eternal evolving mind, which is the divine reality of the universe, the eternal spirit from which all being originates and to which all being must return at the close of each period of universal activity.
Jasper10
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2022 01:18 am
@The Anointed,
That is incorrect…….. The Anointed………you are not a thought……you just have thoughts….

You make no mention of AWARENESS;CONSCIOUSNESS; CONTROL……

If you were to never think….you still would be….This is the “I am”
Jasper10
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2022 01:37 am
@Jasper10,
The problem with thoughts is the “toggling” contradictions….

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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2022 05:17 am


Supercomputer models show how the earth was formed from the sun.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2022 05:24 am
@bulmabriefs144,
According to Genesis, God spoke light into being, he did not "create" light.

Some things are not created... they just are.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2022 05:26 am
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how to resize images you post...
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The Anointed
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2022 06:02 am
@Jasper10,
Quote:
If you were to never think….you still would be….This is the “I am”


What a load of unadulterated crock! If "I AM" cannot think, Then "I AM" is a non-living object.
The Anointed
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2022 06:19 am
@TheCobbler,
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Supercomputer models show how the earth was formed from the sun.


From the proto-sun, not the 'SUN'.

So let me repeat once again. This is one scientific theory as to the creation of our solar system some 9 billion years after the creation of those first generation massive stars that lit up the darkness of the expanding space.

Whether or not a better theory than that which we have today will develop, time will tell.

This theory would appear to support the biblical statement, that the process of the division of the waters above from the waters below, [See Genesis 1: 6; KJV] or the division of the solar nebula cloud from the greater Galactic nebula cloud, began some five billion years ago, and that the whole process began with the division of the waters (cloud) above, from the waters (Cloud) below from which the entire Solar system was created. This took just a few hundred million years, about 400 million years in fact, and the creation of our entire solar system was completed by about 4.6 billion years ago.

It was from the galactic nebular cloud, which was the residue of the heavier elements that were exploded off with the great super nova, which was the death of one of those gigantic earlier generation Stars that our Milky-Way galaxy would be formed in the second creative period=day, as the active universal forces brought about a division of the Solar nebular cloud [The Waters Below] from the Galactic nebular cloud [The Waters Above].

The accretion of the galactic nebula disk, which was being attracted to the central Black Hole around which it had begun to orbit, transferred angular momentum outward as it transferred mass inward, it was this that caused our solar nebula to begin to rotate and condense inward, bringing a division of the solar cloud, from the galactic cloud, or the waters above from the waters below.

Within the greater galactic nebular cloud, which was slowly beginning to revolve around the Black Hole that anchored it in space, a piece of the larger cloud complex started to collapse about five billion years ago. The cloud complex had already been "polluted" with dust grains from previous generations of stars, so it was possible to form the rocky terrestrial planets as gravity pulled the gas and dust together, forming a solar nebula. As the cloud=waters of the solar nebula collapsed, its slight rotation increased. This is because of the conservation of angular momentum.

Just like a dancer who spins faster as she pulls in her arms, the cloud began to spin as it collapsed. Eventually, the cloud grew hotter and denser in the centre, with a disk of gas and dust surrounding it that was hot in the centre but cool at the edges. As the disk got thinner and thinner, particles began to stick together and form clumps. Some clumps got bigger, as particles and small clumps stuck to them, eventually forming planets or moons. Genesis 1: 6—9. As the heavenly cloud was gathered together in one place, dry land, or rather planets began to form.

Near the centre of the condensing cloud, where planets like earth formed, only rocky material could stand the great heat. Icy matter settled in the outer regions of the disk along with rocky material, where the giant planets like Jupiter formed.

As the cloud continued to fall in, the centre would get so hot that it would eventually become a star and with a strong stellar wind, would blow away most of the gas and dust from which the planets of the solar system had been formed.

By studying meteorites, which are thought to be left over from this early phase of the solar system, scientists have found that the solar system is about 4.6 billion years old! As the solar nebula collapsed, the gas and dust heated up through collisions among the particles. The solar nebula heated up to around 3000 K so everything was in a gaseous form. The solar nebula's composition was similar to the present-day Sun's composition: about 93% hydrogen, 6% helium, and about 1% silicates and iron, and the density of the gas and dust increased toward the core where the proto-sun was: [PROTO SUN.]. The inner, denser regions collapsed more quickly than the outer regions.

PROTO-HUMANS WERE NOT HUMANS AND THE PROTO-SUN, WAS NOT YET OUR SUN.

Around Jupiter's distance from the proto-Sun the temperature was cool enough to freeze water (the so-called "snow line" or "frost line"). Further out from the proto-Sun, ammonia and methane were able to condense. There was a significant amount of water closer to the Proto-sun, but could not condense. When the solar nebula stopped collapsing it began cooling, though the core that would later form the Sun remained hot.

This meant that the outer parts of the solar nebula cooled off more than the inner parts closer to the hot proto-Sun. Only metal and rock materials could condense (solidify) at the high temperatures close to the proto-Sun.

Therefore, the metal and rock materials could condense in all the places where the planets were forming. Volatile materials (like water, methane and ammonia) could only condense in the outer parts of the solar nebula.

Because the density of the solar nebula material increased inward, there was more water at Jupiter's distance than at the distances of Saturn, Uranus, or Neptune. The greater amount of water ice at Jupiter's distance from the proto-Sun helped it grow larger than the other planets. Although, there was more water closer to the proto-Sun than Jupiter, that water was too warm to condense. Material with the highest freezing temperatures condensed to form the chondrules that were then incorporated in lower freezing temperature material. Chondrules (from Ancient Greek chondros, meaning grain) are round grains found in chondrites. Chondrules form as molten or partially molten droplets in space before being accreted to their parent asteroids.

Any material that later became part of a planet underwent further heating and processing when the planet differentiated so the heavy metals sunk to the planet's core and lighter metals floated up to nearer the surface.

Because of its great compression, the core of the proto-Sun finally reached about 10 million Kelvin and after the planets of the solar system had been created, the hydrogen nuclei started fusing together to produce helium nuclei and a lot of energy. It was then that the proto-Sun "TURNED ON" and became our Sun, which produced the strong winds called T-Tauri winds named after the prototype star in the constellation Taurus.

These winds swept out the rest of the nebula that was not already incorporated into the planets. With most of the cocoon gas blown away, the new star itself becomes visible to the outside for the first time. This whole process took just a few hundred million years and was finished by about 4.6 billion years ago. At the distance of about one light year from the earth, is the great icy Dome, that is the boundary of the firmament of our heavens, in which the sun, moon, and planets of our solar system were created.

Please reveal the link that you believe reveals that, some supercomputer models show how the earth was formed from the sun, and not from the condensing solar nebula before it burst into light?
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Jasper10
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2022 07:18 am
@The Anointed,
You are in error , The Anointed.

The “I am” has AWARENESS and can exercise CONTROL of CONSCIOUSNESS.

Didn’t you know that?


Jasper10
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2022 07:50 am
@Jasper10,
The “I am” does think ….but the “I am” is not a thought….The “I am” is separate from thoughts….The “I am” just thinks and processes thoughts.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2022 07:58 am
@The Anointed,
Was it the proto-God that created the universe?
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2022 08:37 am
@The Anointed,


Please watch the middle part of this video.

They do not call it the proto-sun. It is referred to simply as, the sun.

And according to their models, the sun is already TURNED ON as it is forming the earth.

This would make Genesis wrong again...
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2022 01:54 pm
@The Anointed,
The Anointed wrote:
The only Geometry that existed before the creation of this boundless cosmos, was in "The Great Thought" the eternal evolving mind, which is the divine reality of the universe, the eternal spirit from which all being originates and to which all being must return at the close of each period of universal activity.



Oh, so circles did not exist before creation? Circular logic? A 360 degree clock?

The "Great Thought" had not thought of circles yet?

Geometry does not need a physical world to exist.

Time itself is a straight line.

I think you rarely think things you say through to even the first order of magnitude.

Before the beginning was the Great Thought?

So draw a line from the beginning back to the great thought and that is geometry.

Connect one thought to another and that is geometry. Even an empty space has geometric dimensions.

You might consider engaging your own thought process.
 

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