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What is Evangelism?

 
 
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sun 17 Oct, 2021 02:20 pm
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sun 17 Oct, 2021 02:59 pm
Brrrrr….
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bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2021 05:18 am
@TheCobbler,
Uhhh, you do know that on many browsers this Fakebook link doesn't even show up, right?

Aside from that, most of these are fiat assertions. Why does Biology disprove Adam and Eve? Because I said so, that's why!
To say nothing of cosmology not being a scientific field, but literally being about origin stories. There isn't just one cosmology. Every religion has one, in addition to any science cosmology.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2021 05:38 am
@bulmabriefs144,
science nbraces that which can be proven and discovered in the field. It cannot find ANY evidenc eabout ADAM n EVE, save one derivative document stub . To me thats good solid disproving a belief
bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2021 06:49 am
@farmerman,
It already has found such.

"Adam and Eve" is shorthand for "the first modern man and woman". We absolutely can prove this, unless we suddenly take leave of real biology to take of myth denying. As for the rest, it is a just-so story to explain why humans don't see things in terms of unified morality,but instead call things good or bad. That part is irrelevant to science, but the part about an Adam and Eve evolving from ancient forms of man? Yeah, nothing there disproves it.

Or do you think we need to find one couple literally named Adam and Eve?
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Wed 20 Oct, 2021 10:32 pm
Another craptastic day for the homophobes at Hobby Lobby
https://www.queerty.com/another-craptastic-day-homophobes-hobby-lobby-20211007
bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2021 08:38 am
@TheCobbler,
Ah got it now.

I was wondering what this had todo with evangelism,but it's clear now.

The OP accuses them of being bigots. Perhaps you should hear the other side of the story?

https://stillnessinthestorm.com/2021/03/prominent-colorado-christian-baker-sued-again-this-time-for-refusing-to-make-gender-transition-cake/

So this man originally got sued for refusing to bake a gay cake for a couple that was from Massachusetts, who had their recption in Colorado. First off, have the reception in the same state as the wedding! Second, don't go 9+ states over to bother someone who has nothing to do with you. Third, at the time, Colorado had no gay marriages, so this was clearly an attempt to bully him into doing something he couldn't comply with. Lastly, as a result of this, he spent years in legal battles, and after winning decided not ro do wedding cakes anymore (losing a huge chunk of business). So then, some transgender person wants him to make a "birthday" cake to celebrate their transition.

Now answer honestly. Are these people bigots, or are the other people bullies?
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2021 11:21 am
@bulmabriefs144,
Damn bul, once in awhile you hit it out of the park.
bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2021 05:31 am
@Leadfoot,
He won't answer honestly though. You and I both know that.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2021 10:27 pm
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2021 10:45 pm
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bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2021 11:32 pm
@TheCobbler,
Proving you understand next to nothing about God.

You know about human behavior, and conflate it with God. Human beings have free will. This means we are capable of great good and great evil, including attempting to defy God. But don't assume all the wars in the OT and in history are God's doing. God is responsible for nature. For trees and flowers growing, for rain and sunlight, and the growth. God does not cause wars, though he might help people win them or survive. Likewise, these people who think ancient people are primitive because they believe in God is kidding themselves. There is a simple reason why urban people don't believe God. Those who farm or fish encounter God's help in everything they do. Meanwhile people who sit in cubicles in lightless rooms are in a state of such disconnect that they get no context for God. So you are accusing God of things that his followers did.

Also, you're quoting pictures (I do this too but at least am clever enough to write a few words) rather than speak your own mind.
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bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2021 11:51 pm
@TheCobbler,
The female vagina is a harsh acidic environment. These sperm at not competing. They are storming a castle. It takes many of them to get there, far more than those pictuted.

Also, bullshit. We assume that God doesn't have his hand in things like evolution. You are strawmanning. Evolution is fine, and not a disproof of God.
It's just that survival of the fittest (Darwinism) doesn't work as a philosophy. The mentality is anti-human. If a village ran on survival of the fittest, one person gets a job. Actually, a successful village has everyone working together. Some ship food, others sell it, others prepare it, others do electrical work, others help with the plumbing. Infighting helps nobody. Does everyone get an automatic job? No. But if competing was all there was, then business in trying for the survival of the fittest would cannibalize itself. Imagine if you had a business with fifty employees, but you wanted to go reality TV on it. Wouldn't that business now be understaffed with its single employee running around doing everything? You can be fit, but not that fit. And the excesssive competition means some people get jobs nowhere, because they're only looking for the perfect. That's mass unemployment, thanks to this idea.

This philosophy is not new. The idea of the world being "dig eat dog" was the way pushed by many people, until Jesus and Buddha showed us better ways to live. https://www.strategydriven.com/2020/08/24/dog-eat-dog-world-allow/

Lastly, you are asking a false question. "If God knew what would happen,why are there so many?" Maybe because one at a time, each of them would die. Suppose my troops have to cross a lava fireld. Alone, each of us will die ( Survival of the fittest? None of us are fit enough) . However, with a team of thousands, we can pile on top, and work together building a human ladder. Most of us tumble and fall in, burning to death, but it is through teamwork that we make it across.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 23 Oct, 2021 03:06 am
@bulmabriefs144,
The problem with your assumption is that the evolutionary mechanism is already in place, where God is not needed at all. Evolution does accomplish its processes and progress regardless of whether if you believe in God.

The sun will create planets, and black holes will renew energy as event horizons will make universes in big bangs. Even the rain is caused by atmospheric pressure and not the hand of some fickle God. The weather is completely predictable, except when you have a crazy former president who is making stuff up and lying to the people.

Doctors are more effective than your prayer, the educational value of the Bible is rather crude compared to a modern psychology textbook and gun crazed right wing religiophobes are a source of death, not abundant or everlasting life.

God is rather left out of the big picture in purpose and usefulness. God did not even give us fire or consciousness.

God is meaningless other than to distract religious people from thinking for themselves. …and we all know how silly religious people are most of the time. Refusing vaccines, believing in flat earth garbage and great flood farces, while indoctrinating yet another young generation with barbarism, racism, sexism, male chauvinism and illiterate blind faith cult drone ignorance.

Your "God" is usually subtracting from evolution, not enhancing it...

You are the proof of that indeed... You babble aimlessly trying to prove the inane and farcical groundless and absurd.

You have to twist and contort your rhetoric until it becomes a laughable opposite of reason and respectable intellect.

You misuse scriptures to double back on common sense and lead people in to pointless mass casualties while other "intellects" invent planes and fly over lava fields.

Vaccine deniers, Trump supporters, flat earth insurrectionists disillusioned by their wanna be racist Kool-Aid death cult dictator. Pathetic really... If this is the product of your "God" you have devolved beneath even plant life.

Don't blame your idiocy on Jesus or Buddha. It is of your own making.

Private interpretation, blind to science, error built upon error. Professing to be wise, but a fool.

You need to redeem yourself to your "actual creator", the sun, the earth and the biological universe around you. They are your higher power and there is all the evidence in the world that they (not your God) are responsible for your existence. "Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead..."
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 23 Oct, 2021 03:29 am
@bulmabriefs144,
They won't make a cake for two loving, monogamous and respectable gay people but they will make a cake for a heterosexual couple who incidentally hire male and female strippers for their bachelor and bachelorette parties and this "godly" hetero couple will show up the next day for their marriage before "God" still drunk and reeking of booze and a myriad of other drugs...

But the gay couple don't get a wedding cake.

"Judge not lest ye be judged."

They made an open public "judgment" of the gay couple and if the world finds that judgement to be harsh and hateful then it is appropriate the cake business take a hit when others decide to tell them to shove their homophobic hate cakes where the sun don't shine.

You can't have your hate cake and eat it too.

People are also not obligated to swallow, theirs or your, hypocritical fake religious double standard garbage tripe.

Religious freedom cuts both ways. Your homophobe cake makers were on the losing end. They think they won but lost in the end. How appropriate, there is justice in this world...

Nobody wants a hate cake. Not surprised.
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sat 23 Oct, 2021 04:49 am
@TheCobbler,
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The sun will create planets, and black holes will renew energy as event horizons will make universes in big bangs. Even the rain is caused by atmospheric pressure and not the hand of some fickle God. The weather is completely predictable, except when you have a crazy former president who is making stuff up and lying to the people.

This may be a record for the most scientific and logical fallacies in a single short paragraph.

I’ll give half credit on 'rain', but the link to Trump was hilarious. You blame him almost as much as you blame God, and with as much accuracy.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 23 Oct, 2021 04:52 am
@bulmabriefs144,
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"Adam and Eve" is shorthand for "the first modern man and woman". We absolutely can prove this, unless we suddenly take leave of real biology to take of myth denying
were :antique" mn and women lo included in your great Species List.

How your POV tries to squeak itself into scientific inclusiveness is an amazing ffort of multi- headedness . Youll soon be lecturing that evolution was responsible for all the polymorphism through time of the genus HOMO, just as you caved on the Evangelical preaching of a TRUE BIBLICAL FLOOD.

You guys have a committee room where ya meet and discuss how you will slowly begin accepting the teachings of modern science? Or did you just begin refuting your Fundamentalist beliefs on yer own??
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 23 Oct, 2021 04:52 am
@Leadfoot,
And you wonder why we're so critical of American humour.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 23 Oct, 2021 05:03 am
@bulmabriefs144,
can you quickly come up with your own revisionist story of the origin of the earth that could incorporate a melded version including both scientific finding and Biblical text??

youve either gotta renounce one or the other, these different worldviews are mutually exclusive if you preach genesis as irrefutable fact and do as my jewish ancestors say
"We Jews are th biggst bullshitters in the Woild . SOOOO Up mit a SHtory book Ve came , so dat the PUTZEs ,understand maybe could"


"Meanwhile, my kid is studying shallow mantle physics at STanford"
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sat 23 Oct, 2021 05:07 am
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And you wonder why we're so critical of American humour.

The French love Jerry Lewis. I wonder about European taste as well.
 

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